TGA Strains Stable?

GUN1

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No high horse here if I can learn something I'm all for it its merely conversing. If one or both of us can learn something then its worth while. I will quite happily be schooled.
 

raiderman

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learn this for yrs i bot dutch passion bluemoonshine regs,5 girls 5 males every time.. wy with tga more males at least wat i've seen and this GDP goin around.
 

Da Almighty Jew

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Some of you people are complete retards. Being mad at a breeder because they got more males in their regular seeds. SMFH Once again, if anything, that is your grower error. Stop blaming it on other people and pick up a cannabis botany book.
 

skunkd0c

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No such tide has turned except in your mind. The numbers who still praise TGA faaaaaaaaar, did you hear that? I said, faaaaaaaaaaaar outweigh the few wanna' be breeders on here. Let's hear someone actually try to say Vortex isn't really that good, or bash Qrazy Train. Most all review sites claim they're among the best of the best. They all TGA paid mouthpieces, or what?
Can i have this again in English, please ?
i did try to make sense of it
i think your enthusiasm got the better of you
 

GUN1

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learn this for yrs i bot dutch passion bluemoonshine regs,5 girls 5 males every time.. wy with tga more males at least wat i've seen and this GDP goin around.
There may be reasons that have nothing to do with the genetetics. In some species of animal things like temperature can effect the sex of the young.
It would be very hard to pinpoint what is causing an increase in male seed and alot of work would have to be done to find out.Even hermaphrodites are a natural occurrence and most are not necessarily to do with "mutt" breeding. Alot of flowering plants have hermaphrodites I believe it is over 70% of flowering plant species. It is ensuring survival in the wild.

Maybe you just got an unlucky pick of seed
 

CharlieBud

Active Member
Some of you people are complete retards. Being mad at a breeder because they got more males in their regular seeds. SMFH Once again, if anything, that is your grower error. Stop blaming it on other people and pick up a cannabis botany book.

Or even better, a non-cannabis botany book with training wheels.
 

raiderman

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There may be reasons that have nothing to do with the genetetics. In some species of animal things like temperature can effect the sex of the young.
It would be very hard to pinpoint what is causing an increase in male seed and alot of work would have to be done to find out.Even hermaphrodites are a natural occurrence and most are not necessarily to do with "mutt" breeding. Alot of flowering plants have hermaphrodites I believe it is over 70% of flowering plant species. It is ensuring survival in the wild.

Maybe you just got an unlucky pick of seed
it was only with them and yes i did prob get a bad pac.i do fems DNa and grow and a bedroom packed with baseball size nugs.
i absolutely dont believe that. a male is a male and a female is a girl.cant twist
 

althor

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Some of you people are complete retards. Being mad at a breeder because they got more males in their regular seeds. SMFH Once again, if anything, that is your grower error. Stop blaming it on other people and pick up a cannabis botany book.
I am one of those who has gotten a ridiculous amount of males out of sub's gear. I repeat I have had no hermies, and the finished product has been pretty good IMO. But I have gotten a ridiculous amount of males, so you are saying its grower error? I could possibly believe that, but then I have a 70% or higher female rate from every other breeder I have ever grown. As an example, out of my HGS mix pack 6 out of 7 have been female. I thought it was bad luck, but I keep reading others saying basically the same thing. Go through 10 seeds and get 1 or 2 females. I am very interested in why that is.
 

Da Almighty Jew

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I am one of those who has gotten a ridiculous amount of males out of sub's gear. I repeat I have had no hermies, and the finished product has been pretty good IMO. But I have gotten a ridiculous amount of males, so you are saying its grower error? I could possibly believe that, but then I have a 70% or higher female rate from every other breeder I have ever grown. As an example, out of my HGS mix pack 6 out of 7 have been female. I thought it was bad luck, but I keep reading others saying basically the same thing. Go through 10 seeds and get 1 or 2 females. I am very interested in why that is.
Bad luck... A seed is a seed is a seed. 50% you get male or female.. Things that can influence are temperatures.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
My issue doesnt lie with hermie traits or low germ rates or even high male ratios! This all come with breeders who push
tons of seeds to the public. My issues lie with attitude from the breeder to the customer, not all of us are beginners in this
game! So why treat us as such, i think listening to customers reports on issue is valued info and shouldnt be returned in
the form of a slap to the face! I hold no il will to sub or for that matter any other breeder. I just think the way issues are
handled are wrong.
 

GUN1

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it was only with them and yes i did prob get a bad pac.i do fems DNa and grow and a bedroom packed with baseball size nugs.
i absolutely dont believe that. a male is a male and a female is a girl.cant twist
I am not trying to change your beliefs they are yours but many species not only plants will change sex if there isn't a male present. I'm not saying it happens all the time but it is possible. If there is a basic mendelian genetic that's causing it it would be easily bred out of lines as it keeps randomly popping up I would say its more of a polymorphic condition.
The statement about flowering plants being hermaphrodites wasn't referring only to weed I was referring to all the worlds flowering plants and it is believed that the worlds dioecous (seperate male and female) plants came from hermaphrodite ancestors.
My belief is that cannabis is a polymorphic subdioecious, hermaphrodite or monoecious plant that has bred to be near dioecious but are not.
Once again thats my belief and if anyone can correct me I would be happy to learn.
 

raiderman

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I am not trying to change your beliefs they are yours but many species not only plants will change sex if there isn't a male present. I'm not saying it happens all the time but it is possible. If there is a basic mendelian genetic that's causing it it would be easily bred out of lines as it keeps randomly popping up I would say its more of a polymorphic condition.
The statement about flowering plants being hermaphrodites wasn't referring only to weed I was referring to all the worlds flowering plants and it is believed that the worlds dioecous (seperate male and female) plants came from hermaphrodite ancestors.
My belief is that cannabis is a polymorphic subdioecious, hermaphrodite or monoecious plant that has bred to be near dioecious but are not.
Once again thats my belief and if anyone can correct me I would be happy to learn.
yu speak with a man of knowldge jus that i ave the perfect growroom imo,ac,exhaust 78F temp 24/7no light leaks,no under waters ,no overwaters..i'll go with the bad pac theory,lol.but i'm stuck on fems, for yrs since they first started stablizing them..yure pretty sharp dude.
 

raiderman

Well-Known Member
My issue doesnt lie with hermie traits or low germ rates or even high male ratios! This all come with breeders who push
tons of seeds to the public. My issues lie with attitude from the breeder to the customer, not all of us are beginners in this
game! So why treat us as such, i think listening to customers reports on issue is valued info and shouldnt be returned in
the form of a slap to the face! I hold no il will to sub or for that matter any other breeder. I just think the way issues are
handled are wrong.
i definately agree with u with breeders jus chunkin untested beans for 100. to 125.00 for 10 regs if thats what u mean.
 
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