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ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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ginwilly said:
The Yemen government wanted to capture him to stand trials for crimes committed in Yemen. We disregarded the wishes of a sovereign nation while dropping bombs in their country. It's not the pieces of shit that died I'm shedding tears over, it's our due process disregard, morals and power grab by the executive branch that has me misty eyed.
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Why were they giving coordinates to USA if they had ever intention of picking them up?

I don't think the Yemen government were that upset by outcome
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
"He directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on Christmas Day in
2009. He directed the failed attempt to blow up U.S. cargo planes in 2010," Mr.
Obama said. "And he repeatedly called on individuals in the United States and
around the globe to kill innocent men, women and children to advance a murderous
agenda."


Yemeni intelligence pinpointed al-Awlaki's hideout in the town of Al Khasaf,
a Yemeni official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of
intelligence. "He was closely monitored ever since," by Yemeni intelligence on
the ground, backed by U.S. satellite and drones from the sky, the official said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-20113732.html
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Mr. Obama is not judge, jury and executioner. Well, yes he is, but he shouldn't be.
 
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ChesusRice

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ginjawarrior said:
Why were they giving coordinates to USA if they had ever intention of picking them up?

I don't think the Yemen government were that upset by outcome
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He contradicts himself every 3-4 posts
Dont expect him to back up his claims
and if you post evidence he will summarily disregard it
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ginjawarrior said:
Why were they giving coordinates to USA if they had ever intention of picking them up?

I don't think the Yemen government were that upset by outcome
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I'd be willing to bet they were actually secretly relieved over the outcome. It doesn't change the official government statement. It also doesn't change what we did.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/25/AR2010032503634.html?nav=emailpage
Last October, the Yemeni government came to the CIA with a request: Could the agency collect intelligence that might help target the network of a U.S.-born al-Qaeda recruiter named Anwar al-Aulaqi?

What happened next is haunting, in light of subsequent events: The CIA concluded that it could not assist the Yemenis in locating Aulaqi for a possible capture operation. The primary reason was that the agency lacked specific evidence that he threatened the lives of Americans -- which is the threshold for any capture-or-kill operation against a U.S. citizen. The Yemenis also wanted U.S. Special Forces' help on the ground in pursuing Aulaqi; that, too, was refused.
Even if the CIA had obtained hard evidence in October that Aulaqi was a threat, and Special Forces had been authorized for a capture operation, permission from the National Security Council would have been needed. That's because any use of lethal force against a "U.S. person," such as Aulaqi, requires White House review.


I am in no way denying this dude was scum and didn't deserve to die. I'm just not happy with anyone having the power to be judge jury and executioner. We are supposed to be better than that.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
is he still dead?
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Don't get me wrong man, I'm glad he's dead too, that's not my argument. I'm sure you would be cool if Obama drone bombed the shit out of Limbaugh, as would a lot of people. My argument is this is wrong and a dangerous precedent to be set. No way the next presidents will be as Awesome as Obama so I don't want them to have this power.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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ChesusRice said:
Actually the CEOs free speech also translated into millions of dollars for groups that are anti gay
So basically the CEO and his company make money off people including the gay ones. Then send a portion of that money to groups that fight for amendments to ban gay marriage

Here is the cut and paste version

“The real issue at hand is not freedom of speech, but Chick-fil-A’s secretive funding of documented anti-gay hate groups. There is no justification for such a business operating on our nation’s campuses,” said Shane Windmeyer, executive director of Campus Pride. “While Chick-fil-A’s leadership has every right to its views, beliefs and voice, students and administrators alike need to know that revenues going to Chick-fil-A drive funding for groups that are almost certainly in conflict with campus non-discrimination policies,” he said.

Campus Pride released the following “5 Simple Facts About Chick-fil-A” for student leaders and campus newspapers to share:
1. Chick-fil-A profits fund documented hate groups that aggressively work against LGBT people, advocating for their criminalization, psychological abuse or death.
2. Chick-fil-A profits support the radical-right-wing group Eagle Forum, which supports LGBT people being considered criminals.
3. Chick-fil-A profits support Exodus International, which claims to “cure homosexuality” through psychological coercion of LGBT people. It says LGBT people are “perverse.”
4. Chick-fil-A profits support Focus on the Family (FOF) and its off-shoot group, Family Research Council (FRC), which has been designated as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center. FOF aggressively defames LGBT people as a threat to children and FRC spent $25,000 to stop the US Congress from condemning Uganda’s “Kill the Gays” policy that would execute all gay people.
5. Chick-fil-A profits come from YOU. When you choose Chick-fil-A, you help fund hate groups.
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SPLC is the biggest bunch of whiney pussies in the country.
 
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beenthere

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ChesusRice said:
Actually the CEOs free speech also translated into millions of dollars for groups that are anti gay
So basically the CEO and his company make money off people including the gay ones. Then send a portion of that money to groups that fight for amendments to ban gay marriage

Here is the cut and paste version

“The real issue at hand is not freedom of speech, but Chick-fil-A’s secretive funding of documented anti-gay hate groups. There is no justification for such a business operating on our nation’s campuses,” said Shane Windmeyer, executive director of Campus Pride. “While Chick-fil-A’s leadership has every right to its views, beliefs and voice, students and administrators alike need to know that revenues going to Chick-fil-A drive funding for groups that are almost certainly in conflict with campus non-discrimination policies,” he said.

Campus Pride released the following “5 Simple Facts About Chick-fil-A” for student leaders and campus newspapers to share:
1. Chick-fil-A profits fund documented hate groups that aggressively work against LGBT people, advocating for their criminalization, psychological abuse or death.
2. Chick-fil-A profits support the radical-right-wing group Eagle Forum, which supports LGBT people being considered criminals.
3. Chick-fil-A profits support Exodus International, which claims to “cure homosexuality” through psychological coercion of LGBT people. It says LGBT people are “perverse.”
4. Chick-fil-A profits support Focus on the Family (FOF) and its off-shoot group, Family Research Council (FRC), which has been designated as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center. FOF aggressively defames LGBT people as a threat to children and FRC spent $25,000 to stop the US Congress from condemning Uganda’s “Kill the Gays” policy that would execute all gay people.
5. Chick-fil-A profits come from YOU. When you choose Chick-fil-A, you help fund hate groups.
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unohu69 said:
OK, well given that information, it seems to me that educating the public about it is the solution. now the people can protest with their wallets. and any decent Human will.
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Sorry Unoho69 but you've been duped.

Far left progressives like Chesus use buzz words like "facts" very loosely, they'll even go as far as out right lie to get others to buy their bullshit.

Do your own research and you will come to the conclusion that pro traditional family groups like the Eagle Forum or Family Research Counsel, these organizations are considered hate groups by the left, just because of their opposing views!

If you or I believe in traditional marriage and contribute to any of these groups that share our beliefs, we become part of the "hate group"
 
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ChesusRice

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beenthere said:
Sorry Unoho69 but you've been duped.

Far left progressives like Chesus use buzz words like "facts" very loosely, they'll even go as far as out right lie to get others to buy their bullshit.

Do your own research and you will come to the conclusion that pro traditional family groups like the Eagle Forum or Family Research Counsel, these organizations are considered hate groups by the left, just because of their opposing views!

If you are like me and a homophobe and bigot we become part of the "hate group"
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Fixed for you Bigot
 
Moses Mobetta

Moses Mobetta

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. To be your own man is hard business. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Rudyard Kipling
 
unohu69

unohu69

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Duly noted.
I understand some groups are way out there. and not something the avg american would contribute to if they know all of what the group stands for. I myself dont really get into it. As I said above, I dont care at all what the gay community does. they dont effect my life, two dudes or chicks getting married has zero impact on me. However, i stand by the "Live and Let Live" and nobody should be advocating harming another.

Im mostly a pacifist i guess, try and hurt my feelings, go ahead, i dare ya, i was married. on the other hand, attack me, and well, I will unleash a hell youd wish you hadnt provoked. Like skin you alive with a fuking spoon type shit. yeah, thats how I roll. kinda wished everybody else would be the same. dont start no shit, wont be any shit.
 
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ChesusRice

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unohu69 said:
Duly noted.
I understand some groups are way out there. and not something the avg american would contribute to if they know all of what the group stands for. I myself dont really get into it. As I said above, I dont care at all what the gay community does. they dont effect my life, two dudes or chicks getting married has zero impact on me. However, i stand by the "Live and Let Live" and nobody should be advocating harming another.

Im mostly a pacifist i guess, try and hurt my feelings, go ahead, i dare ya, i was married. on the other hand, attack me, and well, I will unleash a hell youd wish you hadnt provoked. Like skin you alive with a fuking spoon type shit. yeah, thats how I roll. kinda wished everybody else would be the same. dont start no shit, wont be any shit.
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Ginwilly "likes" your post
But defends a ceo who funds groups that say homosexuals should
- not be treated equally
-jailed
-killed
-not trusted as they are pedophiles
-deviant
 
unohu69

unohu69

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hell, I was only in here to say the dude in the video rant at the cute little redhead, had a right to say what he wanted. I bet he regrets it now. the entire country knows who he is, he made his mark on society,not for the better either. We The people have/will shame him into submission. You know it worked cuz he posted his apology days later. if anything, maybe he deserves a break, he actually admitted his mistake. many like him will not, and that is the problem with the people who act out in society. Shame used to work.

When someone misbehaved the community would shun them until they managed to prove they were willing to live with the rest of us with out incident. That only works in rare cases nowadays.

Like them adolph naming parents, you know they havent changed. they will not feel shame, will not change. Those types are the problem, not some dude who spouted off at the mouth with out thinking.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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ChesusRice said:
Ginwilly "likes" your post
But defends a ceo who funds groups that say homosexuals should
- not be treated equally
-jailed
-killed
-not trusted as they are pedophiles
-deviant
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yeah, sometimes believing in not just my rights afforded by the constitution but idiots rights as well is hard.

You left out where I defended gay marriage and the drive-thru idiot's right too, and the companies right to fire him.

I don't pick and choose what part of the constitution suits me best and fuck all everyone else who disagrees.

Looks like it's dishonest Chesus this morning.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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Chesus says that there are murders happening every weekend in Chicago and Obama hasn't stopped them so Obama is for murdering in Chicago. I disagree.
 
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ChesusRice

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ginwilly said:
yeah, sometimes believing in not just my rights afforded by the constitution but idiots rights as well is hard.

You left out where I defended gay marriage and the drive-thru idiot's right too, and the companies right to fire him.

I don't pick and choose what part of the constitution suits me best and fuck all everyone else who disagrees.

Looks like it's dishonest Chesus this morning.
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unoho says he is a live and let live guy
Yet you support the right of a ceo to fund hate groups that target gays
 
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