sfttailpaul
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I am so sick of getting those damn captchas...I rarely even link anything on here...
Man, I second that! Makes me want to go elsewhere. Security! Bull Tacca' (that's short for screw those Captchas!).
I am so sick of getting those damn captchas...I rarely even link anything on here...
I'm assuming they'd be the same level of difficulty for me. I never mentioned "naked plant"s.Right because dropping in a naked plant into some soil is harder than dropping in a jiffy pellet?
As I said before (again) I, too, put them in the side light in my veg room. I understand that methods for tent-growers and closet-cases will have to be modified, you don't need to clone as much as I anyways because you don't have enough room for it. Growing will become much better (in general) for you once you get out of the tents.I use a 400w MH because I clone in my veg tent...so it is right there...but my clones have to root fast, or they will die under the big lights...they always root, and I am using the power anyway...lol.
That isn't as practical if you must cut the bottom of the net pot out, then they aren't re-usable. With inserts, the net pots are a waste of time and money, they add absolutely nothing to the grow. With net pots there is ALWAYS tangling, they're tangled the minute they root past the bottom of the pot. The whole point of the inserts was to do away with media AND net pots.
As the thread stated, this is about quick, cheap methods. Aerocloners can't be better here, as long as they cost more and take longer. I'm sure you can transplant from an aerocloner to soil, I've done it a few times, but it isn't as easy/simple as dropping your peat pellet/rockwool cube straight down in the soil.
Ok man, then go make your own thread about it. This is about fast and cheap cloning, just not as cheap as the cup of water method but certainly faster and cheaper than any results I've seen from a home made aerogarden.i do and is just as simple...
bro, you know damn well it wouldn't cost that much to build one?Ok man, then go make your own thread about it. This is about fast and cheap cloning, just not as cheap as the cup of water method but certainly faster and cheaper than any results I've seen from a home made aerogarden.
"Clones been in the bucket cloner for like 4 days i think still lookin healthy and i havn touched anything at all since cutting it i have to check the dome daily, sarting to seem like a hassle compares to set and forget lol am i that lazy??
That's a quote from YOUR journal. So apparently even you think the dome method is simpler than the aerocloner method (except when you're trolling about.) Also, I saw your "Cheap $25 Cloner" thread, your aerocloner only holds 10 little clones;with my method and the same amount of $ you can root waaaay more clones at one time. I have 8 totes, all of which hold 20 cuttings (at least) each (making my capacity at least 160)... if you were to root the same amount of cuttings at the same time with your home made bubblers it would cost you $400 JUST FOR THE CLONERS, as well as a shitload of wasted electricity just so your cuttings can take a little longer to root. Do what you do guy, if you don't like my thread you certainly don't have to keep coming back. Your method is inferior for me, my method blows others' rooting times out of the water when I use it so maybe you're doing something wrong.
If the aerocloner holds 10, and I can root 160 but the aerocloner costs 25 dollars then let's see: 160 divided by 10 = 16bro, you know damn well it wouldn't cost that much to build one?
I thought you where going to show us with pics, about cheap cloning in 3 days?
Yea, my meter is good. I don't take readings from inside the dome, those are readings from inside my room. If you mist inside the dome it will always be really high (80-95%), my bad- I should have clarified that. I'm working on a new tutorial now, as many people have pointed out areas that need to be worked on.Looks good except humidity looks too low. Are you sure your meters are correct? They are notoriously bad. My RH stays at about 90-95% in my propogator with vents closed and that's only misting once a day.
You can calibrate RH meters using the wet salt method. I use 2, calibrate them both together and they still can drift 5-10% which is a lot.
Defensive much dude? We're contributing OTHER fast and cheap methods, nobody came in saying your method was bs or completely inferior, just that other options work just as well and have different advantages and disadvantages. If you don't want people doing that, you should start the thread by stating it, not getting mad when it happens.I'm assuming they'd be the same level of difficulty for me. I never mentioned "naked plant"s.
How about this, I'm sure everybody's cloning methods work great but not better than mine that's for sure.
To all:If you already have a cloning method- this thread isn't for you (unless you want roots faster), as I mentioned 1000 times I made this post so that new growers wouldn't be scared to try it out. My clones root fast enough that I don't care about your methods or input, if I wanted input I would have asked a question. I assume all of the trolls on RIU are little dingleberries that smoke brick pot in their bedrooms at moms house, haha. If you grow better or bigger yields and can show something for it then I might listen to you or ask for advice, I don't need advice or new methods. I have used just about every type of cloning as well as growing methods (aside from fogponics), I figured out what works best for me and I use the hell out of it. Cheers kid.
Whatever people, I'm defensive because I clearly stated that I'm not looking for other methods or advice. And yea it fucking does because your homemade aerogardens cost way more to build than the listed method. Therefore, it costs more $ to root the same amount of cuttings, called "fast and cheap" brother, not "everybody list your cloning method" because if i were interested in that I would ask, or I would read your threads. But these methods you are using aren't faster, they aren't cheaper, they weigh more, they waste electricity, you can't buy all of the required gear from kmart/walmart and for new people (what this thread directed at) don't want to waste all the time/$ on a shit ass aerocloner when they don't even know if they can do it. its the books by famous growers (greg green, jorge cervantes) that make it sound difficult to new growers because they throw in a lot of bullshit that is unneccessary. It is trolling because I said "I DON'T CARE ABOUT OR WANT YOUR ADVICE" but people continue to throw in their 2 cents, because of course every man is the smartest man in the world. I didn't ask for you to contribute a thing, just forgot to disable comments, which is why I've completely remade the tutorial somewhere else. Good luck with your aerogardens, tent titties & closet cases alike.Defensive much dude? We're contributing OTHER fast and cheap methods, nobody came in saying your method was bs or completely inferior, just that other options work just as well and have different advantages and disadvantages. If you don't want people doing that, you should start the thread by stating it, not getting mad when it happens.
But when you tout your preferred method as far superior and start listing incorrect downsides to other people's methods and attacking them, of course we are going to "troll" your thread as youre calling it, even though all we're doing is pointing out that our methods aren't so difficult, slow, or expensive as you try to make them out to be. And great, you can fit 20 clones into a tote. I fit 15 into a 5gal bucket that takes up less space. If I wanted 20 per cloner, I'd have gotten a different container or just make more. So claiming that your method is better simply because you use a bigger container doesnt really do anything for your case here...
By the way, look, my roots came out of the netpot just fine.
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1. There's no way for a tote filled with water to be lighter than a tote with only cuttings inside.I didn't even want to turn this into something, just felt the need to point out what I saw happening, but anyway...
My clones go into both soil and hydro, which I've already mentioned. A delicate hand and they're fine. I dont know why you keep saying aerogardens, I'm using a dwc cloner. They're as light as I want them to be(use smaller containers). The timeframe is the same as what you claim(you have yet to show your roots). I dont waste electricity because I'm using 2 outlets on a pump thats running for my rdwc anyway. All my shit can be found at any department store. It took me about 30 minutes and $7 to make.
So every single criticism you just made as a blanket statement for any method that isn't yours, is wrong.
So the only person in here confusing newbies is you. Because if they only read what youre posting, theyre going to think that any method besides yours is shit. Just sayin
And I think its funny youre talking shit on everyone claiming they're a know-it-all, but youre the ONLY one in this thread bashing any method that isnt yours because, as you said, our methods are 'not better than yours thats for sure'.
I'm glad what you do works for you, and it took me a long time to finally find a method that reliably worked for me. So I dont tell people to clone(or do anything) one way or another. I merely try to make sure people know their options and have proper information before making their own decision based on the advantages and disadvantages of those options. You seem to be intent on convincing people to use your method and nobody elses. Which is fine, but like I said if thats your goal, you should open the thread by stating that.
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Awesome, that's all I wanted. I like how you tell me what my options are like you have authority over RIU or something, you're hilarious. You haven't shown any downsides to this method and even when asked you couldn't supply any advantages your methods have over mine. I believe my original post states that before this summer I was completely new to cloning, so you are correct there. I don't have to prove anything to you man, you can get over that shit. You're also right about me not wanting to hear other opinions- I already said I've tried every other method I know of, this one works the best.Why do you keep talking about aerocloners?
And there you go again, using blanket statements as false downsides to other specific methods(which I've already addressed and corrected) and then insulting the people using them because of those false downsides, all while demanding that we leave your thread alone.
You have two choices with a thread where you claim that you use the fastest, cheapest, and all-around best method:
1. Let there be an open debate on a discussion board (crazy concept, I know), which means youre going to have to actually justify your stances and not just attack everyone who has something to contribute. People will express opinions, experiences, preferences, requirements, and other reasoning for their choices. Theyll also mention downsides to yours. I know you dont want to admit it, but every method has downsides, including yours. I was very polite until I got insulted first, of course I'm going to retaliate because, again, you can't tell anyone what they can or can't do so you get over it.
2. Make a tutorial that people arent allowed to discuss, but that means you cant be continuing the debate either, especially if youre not even going to be correct. Somebody has to straighten out the misconceptions youd be creating. You also cant claim that yours is the best method unless you are willing to disprove it. So youre left either allowing open debate, doing a test of every method brought forward to prove that your method is far superior, or not claiming that your method is superior to any other method(too late, and it doesnt seem like you have an interest in seeing anything other than your own opinions here)
Lastly, for someone who started a "help me with cloning" thread specifically asking about help with aerocloners a couple months ago, you sure are a know-it-all on cloning who wants to hear absolutely no outside opinions and only wants to slam aerocloners.
Theres no reason for me to continue repeating myself to a wall, so I'm done here. Good luck
Pics worth a thousand words. I'm doing an experiment with Honey vs Schultz Take Root vs Clonex gel
Rep + if anyone likes this experiment. Will update with date stamped pics as we go!
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