opinions on guard dog for my next outdoor grow, (im going to keep it after as a pet)

Vindicated

Vindicated

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Trail cameras are good if your growing legally on your own land, but they don't prevent anything, and might not even be noticed in the woods. I really don't like gorilla growing because it puts you and wildlife at risk, and gives cops fuel to request more money for cracking down on growers, but just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean people are going to stop. So having said that, if your going to do it, I think the safest approach is to spread out the grow and assume half of it will be found. Be careful about carrying a weapon. Police always assume growers are heavily armed and won't hesitate to shoot. And if you give up easily, just having a gun on you is going to significantly up the charges against you.

What you could try doing is plating different strains that naturally grow at different heights and have different finishing times. You can then bury ollas terra cotta pots filled with water and amend the soil with water storing crystals to help conserve as much water as possible. Avoid hydroponic nutrients that leach into nearby ground water and streams which could potentially get you busted for environmental damage. Instead, apply thick layers of compost, potting soil, and wood chips. Never leave a trail, never leave litter, and avoid digging and disturbing the surroundings as much as possible. Even cutting down old trees or clearing dead brush is risky. People who fly over on a regular basis will notice changes in the land.
 
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notoriousxander

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Vindicated said:
Trail cameras are good if your growing legally on your own land, but they don't prevent anything, and might not even be noticed in the woods. I really don't like gorilla growing because it puts you and wildlife at risk, and gives cops fuel to request more money for cracking down on growers, but just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean people are going to stop. So having said that, if your going to do it, I think the safest approach is to spread out the grow and assume half of it will be found. Be careful about carrying a weapon. Police always assume growers are heavily armed and won't hesitate to shoot. And if you give up easily, just having a gun on you is going to significantly up the charges against you.

What you could try doing is plating different strains that naturally grow at different heights and have different finishing times. You can then bury ollas terra cotta pots filled with water and amend the soil with water storing crystals to help conserve as much water as possible. Avoid hydroponic nutrients that leach into nearby ground water and streams which could potentially get you busted for environmental damage. Instead, apply thick layers of compost, potting soil, and wood chips. Never leave a trail, never leave litter, and avoid digging and disturbing the surroundings as much as possible. Even cutting down old trees or clearing dead brush is risky. People who fly over on a regular basis will notice changes in the land.
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very good advice thankyou, i think i can do it pretty stelthy , i have some ideas, just worried about when they start cracking on grows after solstace
 
gaztron3030

gaztron3030

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Bro If your site is so hard to get to and your not worried bout people wandering in then why do you need a guard dog? get a sniffer dog so if you do get ripped you can follow their scent and catch the bastards and teach them that stealing is baaad mmkay, oh and im sure if your dog killed or maimed anybody regardless of whether they are stealing etc you will still get in big trouble and will be asked why you had a dog tied up near a cannabis crop. guard dogs are for home grows, outdoors you just gotta be smart and have a bit of luck i suppose.
Good luck with whatever path you choose :)
 
HomeLessBeans

HomeLessBeans

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notoriousxander said:
i wouldnt care if it killed someone trying to steal my plants, i have no regard for human life when it comes to that, death nigga deathh lol, and yeah no ones prob goin to find it
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funny thats exactly how I feel about someone who would tie a dog out in the woods let alone gator country.
I've been a guerilla grower for decades and never felt the need for a guard dog.

If I found your spot I normally would walk away. I see you have tied a dog out,I'll be right there waitin to talk a little to ya. Ya just think u don't like me now.
 
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notoriousxander

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Dude i already said i wasnt going to do it, i realize it was a bad idea, so chill im prob going to go with the camera idea, if you knew me youd know the last thing id want to do is hurt a dog , and i never said i didnt like you dude, you never did anything other then talk to me , if anything we could be friends and if you came and talked to me about my dog in the woods (if i put one out there im not going to) i would hear you out, gotta have a level head nigga
 
gaztron3030

gaztron3030

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Its about time some race embraced racism! maybe it'll make people get over it and we can all be friends lol
now somebody in kenya will open a zipper head queen or a gooks r us
 
Ndodson79605

Ndodson79605

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MellowFarmer said:
Rotties are the biggest sweetest most lovable dears until Anyone tries to hurt his master's friends or family. Love 'em!
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I agree with you Mellow. Rottweilers are very territorial and protective of their owners. Being a son of a dog breeder, I would have to say other than the Rotts, the British Bull Mastiff is also a very good dog for security. But as Vindicated stated, you're going to have to do a lot of work training them. Dogs of any breed are able to be trained for any number of reasons, but there are some breeds who are more better suited for the tasks you want them for. The Shepherds are good too, which I give you +rep for posting a pic of a beautiful German Shep (Rocky looks more Shepherd than Rott). But yeah, that's just my 2 cents. Oh yeah, also, the Great Pyreneese, the Doberman Pinscher, and the Boerboel (specifically bred for protection), are great too.
 
whatsaroach?lol???

whatsaroach?lol???

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Take the money you going to spend to get a dog and but idk maybe some camera and signslike private property or beware of dog. You don't have to feed a camera. Once you see somebody supicious you can confront them instead ofhaving a dog do the dirty work its not likeyou can call the cops neways and most likely dog don't really attack if there treadtd right and if your gonna get a dog like you said your gona treat it right
 
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xKuroiTaimax

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Vindicated said:
Breed isn't all that important. It's more about the time you put into training and the individual dog's personality. Protection duty is one of the hardest things to ask of a dog. First you teach basic obedience while working on socialization, then you work on agility training, and after that's done you can start teaching it bite work and counter attacks, -- that's if you really want a protection dog.

However this requires a smart obedient dog with confidence and a high prey drive. You can also expect it to take at least two years to train your dog right and it's better to get them when they are young. Otherwise you'll need to work undo all the mistakes from their last owners.

I think it's great your looking at rescues though. I got my pup from a rescue when she was only eight weeks. I put her in puppy classes right away and made her an inside dog. I see lots of people bringing in Pits and German Shepherds because they wanted a family pet / guard dog. Most of the time these dogs have a mean bark but they are really just big babies and are only barking out of fear. All it takes is a few barks from a really confident Chihuahua and these dogs run behind their owners with tails tucked behind their legs.

Ideally, you should visit the dogs in person and play with them. See if they like to play fetch, tug, and will come when called. Get the dog that you naturally bond and are willing to keep no matter what. If you can, make them an inside dog and hand feed them for the first couple of months. You can always teach them to go outside, do a quick patrol, and bark at intruders.
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True true true!!!!

In Trinidad everyone has a guard dog, mostly the aforementioned Rotties, Pit types and GSDs. They are indeed big babies, when one mastiff/pit busted his chai and ran onto our land, I ran out and barked at it, sending him running scared.

We now have these two cuties who are the most dedicated (and aggressive) watchdog team, responding to my barks/howls and warning/attacking on command. I believe them to have fox terrier/jack Russell terrier and perhaps and touch of bull terrier ancestry.

 
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Blacktophat

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go with a pit dude seriously. pits have the best personalities of any breed available. i hate the image they have because of piece of shit people fighting them.

like my dad used to say "only drug dealers and mexicans get them pit bulls" ugh... after he saw how incredibly easy she was to train and how smart she was he changed his mind quick.

my pit learned sit, down, stay, fetch, and basically everything by 8 WEEKS! start positively training when they're 1 month old. i recommend you check out don sullivans dog training guide.
 
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notoriousxander

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cannabineer said:
But I will ask you plainly ...
please, notorious ...
could you not use that dreadful word? It's like finding pet stains on a tablecloth when I'm reading your posts. cn
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Its just a word , i guess i use it like dude, its no big deal really i guess i understand why you dont like it though i used to not like it
 
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