UncleBuck
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so, are you ever going to acknowledge the rampant lies you have been spreading in this thread? yes? no?
and seriously, when was the last time you got laid?
Obama gave us commerce by gun to your head; enslavement to health care sector
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and seriously, when was the last time you got laid?
ChesusRice
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NLXSK1
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I know the truth probably makes your butthole itch UB... Just have Cheesus keep nodding in agreement and maybe he will hit the spot...
ChesusRice
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Hey you ever going to provide evidence obama said unemployment wouldnt go above 8%?
Guess you are a retard and a liar
UncleBuck
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the truth is that no poor people will face the penalty for not getting insured (unless you consider $50k a year to be poor).
you lied.
NLXSK1
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What is the unemployment rate?
ginjawarrior
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"So we find Will's claim Barely True.
Editor's note: This statement was rated Barely True when it was published. On July 27, 2011, we changed the name for the rating to Mostly False."
Thank you for clearing that up
ChesusRice
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Article also says
Obama never said that
Obama never said that
mr2shim
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You didn't read that did you?
Oh how the silly nutjobs on Fox News love to stretch the truth. No wait they just make up flat out lies for ratings.
ChesusRice
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First, we could find no instance of anyone in the administration directly making such a public pledge. Rather, it comes via a Jan. 9, 2009, report called "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" from Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser.
Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create 3 million to 4 million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also included a chart predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009.
As Will rightly noted, it went higher. The unemployment rate peaked around 10 percent in late 2009 and is now around 9.5 percent. And Will is also right that the cost of the stimulus rose dramatically.
But what we saw from the administration in January 2009 was a projection, not a promise. And it was a projection that came with heavy disclaimers.
"It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error," the report states. "There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."
Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create 3 million to 4 million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also included a chart predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009.
As Will rightly noted, it went higher. The unemployment rate peaked around 10 percent in late 2009 and is now around 9.5 percent. And Will is also right that the cost of the stimulus rose dramatically.
But what we saw from the administration in January 2009 was a projection, not a promise. And it was a projection that came with heavy disclaimers.
"It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error," the report states. "There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."
mr2shim
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See post #94 I think you should stop spreading lies now.
BTW, thanks for the link NoDrama. Cleared that lie right up.
ChesusRice
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Im not sure if you said it or not mr2shim
But the rightards trade these things back and forth to each other until they believe it is the truth
If you point out that they can not find evidence
They get all butt hurt or go on to some other non factual assertion
But the rightards trade these things back and forth to each other until they believe it is the truth
If you point out that they can not find evidence
They get all butt hurt or go on to some other non factual assertion
mr2shim
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Or never reply and I'm almost certain that's what's going to happen in this case. We won't be seeing NLXSK1 in this thread, at least for a few pages until this dies down and a new subject arises where he can spread more bullshit lies.
ChesusRice
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On large message boards like CNN
They employ sock puppets to back up the original false allegation, or to resurrect the same false allegation 5 minutes later. There is one guy on CNN that has more than 50 accounts. But for some reason he is limited to only posting from 4 of them at a time
NLXSK1
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I point out 6 things he has supposedly said and you guys dispute one of them and the issue is that *I* am a liar???
Seriously, I am LOL'ing right now at you...
mr2shim
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How are we disputing? We just quoted proof that what you said was a lie. Are you that full of yourself you can't say you were wrong? Thanks for proving my assumption right. That you will either not reply or reply with some ignorant statement not touching anything of the quoted FACTS we posted. I'm sure you'll reply to this post but won't to post #94 or 95.
ChesusRice
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Doubt if you are seriously Lol'ing
and you pointed spouted off 6 things and they are all full of shit
maybe you will do better over at the Freerepublic website. no one will challenge your bullshit there
or stormfront
ink the world
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Fucking Libtards, don't understand anything about truth.
I've seen Fox news tell me 1,000's of times that Obama said that. I dint need to see him actually say it or read a quote from him to understand. Good honest people like Sean Hannity tell me the truth.
You guys are funny as shit. Watching the media division of the GOP and considering it news. Fox news broadcasts remind me of the Iraqi defense minister denying US troops were in Baghdad as Abrams tanks drove by his lying ass.
Talk about sheeple.
I've seen Fox news tell me 1,000's of times that Obama said that. I dint need to see him actually say it or read a quote from him to understand. Good honest people like Sean Hannity tell me the truth.
You guys are funny as shit. Watching the media division of the GOP and considering it news. Fox news broadcasts remind me of the Iraqi defense minister denying US troops were in Baghdad as Abrams tanks drove by his lying ass.
Talk about sheeple.
jumpin' buffalo
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UncleBuck? Is that you, UncleBuck? I wasn't aware they still let you post here.since you're just innocently and passively "passing along information", why don't you cite what the actual penalty for noncompliance is in this case.
i bet you won't.
