UncleBuck
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they did shrink the deficit.
nd everyone seems to have a different claim about how many days early bills would be published.
it all smells like butthurt to me.
it's like 2008 all over again
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nd everyone seems to have a different claim about how many days early bills would be published.
it all smells like butthurt to me.
Dr Kynes
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2007: deficit of $161 billion.
2008: deficit of $459 billion
2009: deficit of $1413 billion
2010: deficit of $1294 billion
2011: deficit of $1299 billion
2012: deficit of $1100 billion
http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
since he hasnt passed a budget yet, he claims that the economy and the federal money issue is still bush's fault, but the numbers dont lie.
this year's deficit is down from the peak, but still staggeringly higher than the ones clocked under bush.
i know theres the whole 2 wars funded off budget issue, and dropping revenues from the recession, but government spending is UP under obama even if the reamining foreign adventure costs are not counted.
revenue is down, but spending is continuing to rise unchecked. this results in deficits, which feeds the debt.
you may argue who is to blame, what caused revenues to drop, obstructionism in congress etc, but obama's hand is on the tiller, if he had cut cut cut all non essential spending until congress gave up their love of waste i would be the biggest obama supporter in town. he didnt do that. he tried to shift the responsibility for his policies onto the congress, but it didnt work. he came off looking petulant and ineffective.
convincing america to hate the congress should have been easy. they are dicks, we all know it. but he didnt even try to get them under control. he could have turned it around with leadership, fiscal restraint and forcing the congress to live within our means, he didnt even try that. he ordered the printing presses to make more magic money, and declared the job well done. he fucked us.
UncleBuck
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see attached note.
tumorhead
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Which budget year did TARP fall under?
Cost more than 1 trillion bucks http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html
Cost more than 1 trillion bucks http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-21/wall-street-aristocracy-got-1-2-trillion-in-fed-s-secret-loans.html
Created in 2008
Dr Kynes
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uhh huh... so, obama took office in jan 2009 then... suffering under the evil bush's nefarious scheme to rob him of his first year, he struggled to reduce spending despite the intransigence of the democrat controlled congress and senate...
even if i accept that narrative (which i do not!), what about 2010? 2011? 2012?
has bush somehow murdered Obama and made a Barack Suit from his skin? has bush used his evil mind control powers to subvert Obama's will?
the deficit is still FAR beyond the place it was when obama made his bold declaration that he would slash it in half. he apparently slashed in... three times more. math is so hard.
Dr Kynes
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2007: deficit of $161 billion.
2008: deficit of $459 billion <------------ obama: "ill cut the deficit in half!"
2009: deficit of $1413 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2010: deficit of $1294 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2011: deficit of $1299 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2012: deficit of $1100 billion <------------ obama: "mission accomplished!"
2008: deficit of $459 billion <------------ obama: "ill cut the deficit in half!"
2009: deficit of $1413 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2010: deficit of $1294 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2011: deficit of $1299 billion <------------ obama: "bush's fault"
2012: deficit of $1100 billion <------------ obama: "mission accomplished!"
Dr Kynes
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UncleBuck
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congress can barely pass continued spending resolutions, so a budget is kind of a pipe dream.
Dr Kynes
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leaders lead.
obama was not elected to be the observer in chief
he was elected on his "platform" of "hope and change" and he has delivered neither.
the only thing he has delivered was obamacare which is the last thing i wanted. but thats mainly because he's black. not al sharpton style AUTHENTIC black, but black enough for racists.
ohh wait... i didnt want this shit when it was hillary care either and she aint black...
maybe theres another reason i dont want mandated insurance, and a guarantee of profits for the insurance companies?
oh yeah. i remember. i said i would even support single payer socialized medicine if they actually PAID for it, not just cooked the books.
and because im racist.
and probably homophobic too
i bet i dont even like kittens.
FUCK KITTENS!!
hooray for evil!
UncleBuck
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mildly edited.
Dr Kynes
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volume instead of quality. meh, why the fuck not?
it may not set the reichstag on fire but it will certainly annoy the moderators.
abandonconflict
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How many dispensaries were there in 2007?
fb360
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The federal government had nothing to do with opening dispensaries bud. In fact, if I'm correct, the federal law still defines medical marijuana as illegal...
Thank your state
Harrekin
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Lord Dumbo-ears could've changed that easily too and didn't...but another 4 years and he might!!
*facepalm*
fb360
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Yeah, and the fact that we are still using $ to fight the war on pot, should have made his decision real easy like. Unfortunately I think the weed fairies are gonna be holdin out for another 4 years in any probable outcome
Harrekin
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Are they some kind of commune of homosexual marijuana growers?Yeah, and the fact that we are still using $ to fight the war on pot, should have made his decision real easy like. Unfortunately I think the weed fairies are gonna be holdin out for another 4 years in any probable outcome
fb360
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No. Rather, dreaming of the mythological cannabis legalization in our current political state warrants the weed fairies from never giving us our treasure