RIP Hostess

[Canna Sylvan]

Dookie,
If I want vegan pepperoni, it doesn't make me Rock Hudson.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Bear,
I can make the perfect poached egg using a vegan mayo, agar agar, and black salt. The trick is using a microwave in less than 10 second intervals to spark into life the vegan Franken egg.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Mindmelted,
Then your joint who makes the veggie burger sucks. Made properly they're yummy. I make the most delicious hummus Chesapeke Bay crab cakes. Tastes better than the real thing. Trick is dulse from Maine.

 

[fdd2blk]

Mindmelted, Then your joint who makes the veggie burger sucks. Made properly they're yummy. I make the most delicious hummus Chesapeke Bay crab cakes. Tastes better than the real thing. Trick is dulse from Maine.

and i can make a mean tri-tip. so what.

 

[cannabineer]

Bear,
I can make the perfect poached egg using a vegan mayo, agar agar, and black salt. The trick is using a microwave in less than 10 second intervals to spark into life the vegan Franken egg.

I would wager the texture doesn't match, esp. for that delicately runny yolk. cn

 

[Harrekin]

Bear,
I can make the perfect poached egg using a vegan mayo, agar agar, and black salt. The trick is using a microwave in less than 10 second intervals to spark into life the vegan Franken egg.

I can't believe you promote the death of seaweed to sustain yourself, sea-weed are people too.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Bear,
Yes it does. That's the whole point of the microwave. It allows runny goo instead of gel. But I was never much of a fan of the poached egg, even as a meat eater.

 

[cannabineer]

Bear,
Yes it does. That's the whole point of the microwave. It allows runny goo instead of gel. But I was never much of a fan of the poached egg, even as a meat eater.

I have grown rather fond of the little beauties and am still teaching myself to cook good ones. I am wondering how you'd nail the flavor of the yolk. I have found no other foodstuff that comes close. cn

 

[Harrekin]

I have grown rather fond of the little beauties and am still teaching myself to cook good ones. I am wondering how you'd nail the flavor of the yolk. I have found no other foodstuff that comes close. cn

Real, genuine, chicken period is irreplaceable IMO.

 

[cannabineer]

Real, genuine, chicken period is irreplaceable IMO.

And yet I am fascinated by the Avenging Bunny's clever workarounds. cn

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Bear,You're a chemist?What gives egg their flavor is umami ( use miso, powdered dried mushroom, and/or sea weed/dulse), black salt which contains sulfur and the last element is texture.You look at your ingredients for how much:carbs, protein,fat and sodium

 

[cannabineer]

Bear,You're a chemist?What gives egg their flavor is umami ( use miso, powdered dried mushroom, and/or sea weed/dulse), black salt which contains sulfur and the last element is texture.You look at your ingredients for how much:carbs, protein,fat and sodium

Yes, but food chemistry is an art within the science. I don't have much expertease there. But I do know how nitroglycerin tastes, and it is strangely delicious before the pounding headache sets in. cn

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Bear,
Then I'm the vegan Jackson Pollock mad food scientist? It's like Pokemon: carbs/sugar eliminate salt and sour, acid makes cultured protein, chia seeds have super absorbing levening powers.

 

[cannabineer]

Bear,
Then I'm the vegan Jackson Pollock mad food scientist? It's like Pokemon: carbs/sugar eliminate salt and sour, acid makes cultured protein, chia seeds have super absorbing levening powers.

(José Jimenez voice) oooo I hope not.
Jackson Pollock always put me in mind of projectile, uhm, food rejection. cn

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

I highly doubt there is a single person on here who would tolerate a 30% cut in pay and benefits on the heels of upper management bonuses and raises.

That is what Hostess was asking it's employees to do. So don't sit there and say it was greedy unions when the majority of the blame lies with management. The people "in charge of running the company"...even though I don't know if you call aiming the business facefirst into the dirt while you line your pockets actually running it or not

Now, rather than doing the right thing and attempting to hash things out, the boardroom has decided it is better for it's own pockets to fold the company.

You know why?

Because then they A) Can weasel out of meeting their contractual obligations regarding workers' pensions, and B) Can go and sell off the Hostess brand names, one-by-one, and clear a huge profit. Wouldn't you want to snatch up Twinkees or HoHos if you were a competitor? Those are both high-value names that carry a large established customer base and you'll be getting them at a bargain for sure.

Hostess is winning from both of those actions. Not paying what it's owed, and then reaping the profits of selling the company off one piece at a time.

The obvious losers are the over 18,000 workers who are now all losing their jobs right at the start of the Holiday Season.

Pretty classy move on the part of Hostess, eh?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

You're right. Hostess should've caved and developed robotic technology which only required a handful of employees with real skills other than pushing buttons. My 3yo could do Hostess employee button pushes.Without unions, illegals and even more automation

 

[canndo]

You're right. Hostess should've caved and developed robotic technology which only required a handful of employees with real skills other than pushing buttons. My 3yo could do Hostess employee button pushes.Without unions, illegals and even more automation

all that may be absolutely true - but a deal is a deal, they are still owed their pensions. the way it is going to work however is that management and owners and those who weasled their way into squeezing a few more bucks out of this failing company are all going to walk away with jingle in their pockets while the tax payers are going to take up the slack. First they will be paying unemployment benifits, remember the company, though still worth something (which will be sold and distributed to everyone BUT the workers). then the tax payers will foot the pension bill as well after the pension has been gutted by those same folk who make off with all the rest, never mind what they made off the backs of the workers in the first bk go round.course it IS the worker's fault for not giving up even more of their income while management and the "consultants" lined their pockets. That is likely why they finally drew the line, they had had enough of a two standard system. the middle class doesn't hate the rich for being rich, they hate the rich because the rule aren't the same. they resent the rich for having a different set of "guidelines". If a poor person steals, he goes to jail. If a rich person steals, he is lauded as being a very GOOD rich person.And so it goes.What is saddest about this mess is that there are other working stiffs who are booing unions, falling in line with the rich folk who HAVE to have the backing of the middle class and will portray their "plight" in any way they can in order to have those who are actually funamentaly opposed to management here, believe it is the union's fault.

 

[NoDrama]

all that may be absolutely true - but a deal is a deal, they are still owed their pensions. the way it is going to work however is that management and owners and those who weasled their way into squeezing a few more bucks out of this failing company are all going to walk away with jingle in their pockets while the tax payers are going to take up the slack. First they will be paying unemployment benifits, remember the company, though still worth something (which will be sold and distributed to everyone BUT the workers). then the tax payers will foot the pension bill as well after the pension has been gutted by those same folk who make off with all the rest, never mind what they made off the backs of the workers in the first bk go round.course it IS the worker's fault for not giving up even more of their income while management and the "consultants" lined their pockets. That is likely why they finally drew the line, they had had enough of a two standard system. the middle class doesn't hate the rich for being rich, they hate the rich because the rule aren't the same. they resent the rich for having a different set of "guidelines". If a poor person steals, he goes to jail. If a rich person steals, he is lauded as being a very GOOD rich person.And so it goes.What is saddest about this mess is that there are other working stiffs who are booing unions, falling in line with the rich folk who HAVE to have the backing of the middle class and will portray their "plight" in any way they can in order to have those who are actually funamentaly opposed to management here, believe it is the union's fault.

Management is at fault for the ultimate demise of the Company, but the union demands are the straw that broke the Twinkies back.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Canndo,
This is a similar situation where a deal maker is given $100. He offers you $20, he keeps $80. You refuse, so everyone gets nothing. The guy who was going to give $100 gets it back. The "greedy" deal maker gets nothing.You could've gotten $20.

 

[canndo]

Management is at fault for the ultimate demise of the Company, but the union demands are the straw that broke the Twinkies back.

If management is at fault, then the rest is irrelvent. The point here is that Management isn't going to suffer the consequences as much as the workers are. They have been banking big since the last BK.