250w HPS Club And Help Guide

[coolguy14788]

nice white ash from the purple afghan! i need to sleep like for 3 days and wake up to dry bud blazed watching matrix revolutions sick movie!

 

[Sr. Verde]

ok good i dont know if i will go with a screen because flushing would be hard without taking them out of the cab

I just built tables for a tray to sit on, with a hole and bucket... but I used to use a 100mL syrenge to pull out the drained water.. the way i'm going now is easier, but takes up more room, and cost more.

what about letting the roots fill those 3 gal pots a bit? i mean there is 2 gallons or more of promix with no roots. what does everyone think? thanks for the props from everyone yield was lower then i hopped for but i figured out which strain i like for SOG. The pineapple is awesome for it and Trics is very noticeable and look to be more then the purple....by the way i know you shouldnt do this but im out and had to try but i quickdried a joint .5 worth of purple packed it in my bong and im ripped right now and i smoke every day bout 2-3 joints a day so my tolerance is high....cant wait till they are dried all the way the right way! also she tastes so good and it is quick dried!

I plan to take clones of the pineapple before i flower and i have 12 of the random momma because i was going to run them next week remember? anyways i will probally do a SOG again next time and if i get my new light by then i will do the mommas in there 3/4 gal pots on a second shelf in the box...once i get a veg cab i will switch to straight big plants and take the self out of the flower box. since the veg cab will not need a second chamber i can use a duct muffler in it to muffle exhaust noise as it is loud. thats why i have a fishtank on top of my cabinet now plus the fish are cool to watch!!

i will put a screen up as well how far from the light should i have the screen? also what should i use for screen (types of material i can go buy to make one)

Yeah they look smaller in the extra pics you put in.. Definitely let them fill out the pots. I use kelp to help root growth. You should definitely let them hit the bottom of the pot before you go 12/12. They grow the most roots in veg . Just don't let them get too big for your cabinet.

And I use hortitrellis (plastic net) for my screen. It's not the best but it's better than nothing, really cheap, and really simple. I will be making my own out of PVC, metal hooks, and nylon string in the future though. I've just been busting my ass building a bunch of other shit, so I haven't been in the DIY mood .

 

[coolguy14788]

i hear ya thanks for the info thought i should wait for the roots to grow two weeks should be fine like i suggested before? also i can trim the plant if it gets to big!

 

[Grazzmon]

Switched from Hydro to Soil.. now I have to learn again Going with a SOG 7 plants in the cab.
What's going on here? I'm leaning toward a diagnosis but I'd appreciate some input.



Strain(s) NL and BM
Promix Potting and Seedling mix and Coco (75% Promix) digital pH meter reads the soil pH about 7.5
Ferts - Floranova Bloom, Calmag.. 1300 PPm (starting point for my water is around 300 ppm) @ 5.8 pH
250 Watt CMH 24hrs (going 20/4 tonight)

Grazz

 

[Trousers]

You can make a scrog for each plant.

Get some bamboo stakes attach them to the sides of the pot. You might want to bump out the bamboo stakes at the top of the pot maybe with some cloth so they angle away from the pot a bit. Make sure the stakes are secure. attach some screen to the top, bam, you're scrogging. You can still remove the plant and take it out for a walk if you want. There must be a diy thread about this here.

I just built tables for a tray to sit on, with a hole and bucket... but I used to use a 100mL syrenge to pull out the drained water..

D'OH.

I was just cursing myself for not lifting my plants off the ground so I can get my pump in there to remove the water when I flush.
Like an idiot I used an entire roll of paper towels to soak up the water in the trays. I have about 7 100ml syringes sitting in a drawer. I also have a big turkey baster which would work better.

What is wrong with me?

Thanks for the tip (even though I should have figured it out myself).

 

[coolguy14788]

ya i know i could do all that or just lst like i am doing now....grazzmon maybe your nute intake PH is too high peat moss itself is acidic and if you keep going with a low PH you might lower the PH overtime unless you put in extra dolomite lime to the mix then you might get away with the lime buffering it

 

[Grazzmon]

..grazzmon maybe your nute intake PH is too high

So do I need to raise the pH in the nute mix? I also seem to remember something about soil growers (I think I was a hydro snob lol.. didn't pay enough attention to the soil growers) saying that they water with plain water every other feeding. But then again, is promix considered soil?
I'm going go sit with them, fire one up and see what they have to say to me

Grazz

 

[Sr. Verde]

You can make a scrog for each plant.

Get some bamboo stakes attach them to the sides of the pot. You might want to bump out the bamboo stakes at the top of the pot maybe with some cloth so they angle away from the pot a bit. Make sure the stakes are secure. attach some screen to the top, bam, you're scrogging. You can still remove the plant and take it out for a walk if you want. There must be a diy thread about this here.





D'OH.

I was just cursing myself for not lifting my plants off the ground so I can get my pump in there to remove the water when I flush.
Like an idiot I used an entire roll of paper towels to soak up the water in the trays. I have about 7 100ml syringes sitting in a drawer. I also have a big turkey baster which would work better.

What is wrong with me?

Thanks for the tip (even though I should have figured it out myself).

hahahaha

awesome. Glad to help. I've done paper towels to get that extra nute solution soaked up before. Now I just pour water over the trey and the dirty water rinses out into the bucket.


Though if you have a lot of water you might consider a hand bilge pump. Meant to pump water out of a boat. Works like a bike pump, except instead of putting air into a thing... it takes liquid out of one thing and evacuates it out of the hose .

100mL syringes can hurt after a while. Even 100mL requires 10 full syringes to clear out 1 liter of liquid. and it's 3.78L per gallon. That's 38 full 100mL syringes to evacuate 1 gallon . Or 380 10mL syringes for a gallon.

 

[cbtbudz]

grazz promix is a soiless mix ,never tried it but always hear good things.id say ph is a little high.

 

[Hettyman]

So do I need to raise the pH in the nute mix? I also seem to remember something about soil growers (I think I was a hydro snob lol.. didn't pay enough attention to the soil growers) saying that they water with plain water every other feeding. But then again, is promix considered soil?
I'm going go sit with them, fire one up and see what they have to say to me

Grazz

I give my plants 500ml every 2 days in soil, and every 3rd or 4th time, I use plain water, but add maybe a few drops (yes I mean a few drops per litre) of a zyme, or feed, just so there is a tiny something in the water. Read somewhere that it's better then plain water. Can't say I can prove this, but I figure just a few drops won't affect the "clearing" effect of the water, and it's better safe then sorry.

If you are now growing in soil, check out the nutrient pH chart someone shared for me (second post down in the linked thread), it's made a real difference to my last few grows. My soil is rated at 6,2pH (biobizz light mix), and I make my mixes at 6.4-6.5 during veg, and then 6.7-6.8 during veg, allowing for the soil to lower that slightly. A lot of ppl still say they water at lower pH's in soil, but this seems to be working for me.

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/536207-i-think-toxity-perhaps-through.html -

 

[giggles26]

I do all my mixes at 6.5 and have never had a problem with lockout or toxicity. I also use dolomite lime as a buffer and all organic mix but 6.5 is where I find the best availability of all nutes.

 

[Sr. Verde]

I also vary my pH for optimal uptake.. Lower to 6.2-6.5 in veg, and higher around 6.5-6.8 in flower.. For the first couple weeks of flower, i feed and balance pH like it's still vegging. Only once I see the flowers forming do I go half / half, then I move onto full bloom nutes/bloom pH after about 3-4 weeks. They seem to like it. It keeps the plants growing foliage, filling in, and growing beefy stalks for the coming flowers.

 

[Hettyman]

I also vary my pH for optimal uptake.. Lower to 6.2-6.5 in veg, and higher around 6.5-6.8 in flower.. For the first couple weeks of flower, i feed and balance pH like it's still vegging. Only once I see the flowers forming do I go half / half, then I move onto full bloom nutes/bloom pH after about 3-4 weeks. They seem to like it. It keeps the plants growing foliage, filling in, and growing beefy stalks for the coming flowers.

Yeah, what he said

I found that below 6.5 in "true" flower stopped the plants taking up Mg, which in turn led to Nit def's. Got a lot better at 6.7, but then the soil had a build of unused nutes and I needed a little flush. Fucking Diva plants!!!

 

[Hettyman]

I do all my mixes at 6.5 and have never had a problem with lockout or toxicity. I also use dolomite lime as a buffer and all organic mix but 6.5 is where I find the best availability of all nutes.

Keep forgetting to add lime, heard it is also a possible source Mag for the plants. Do you just put a sprinklng in when you mix up the soil??

 

[giggles26]

Keep forgetting to add lime, heard it is also a possible source Mag for the plants. Do you just put a sprinklng in when you mix up the soil??

Yes, but make sure you are using the correct kind of dolomite lime as there are a few that your girls wont like. I use 1tbls per gallon of soil and my girls love it.

 

[Grazzmon]

Some pics to share.. maybe I'm over thinking it, the girls are growing nicely.. I fed them today with 6.5 pH'd tap water, I did add CalMag and Superthrive .



My Jamaican Bagseeds



Grazz

 

[Hettyman]

Though I would throw up a few pics of my ladies before bed cos it's been a while.

These are the 3 ladies in my avatar pic (which were a couple of days after flip) Now nearly ready to harvest...about 2 weeks. I may flush one tommorrow and chop it down in a week so I have some nice dry budd for new years

 

[justperception]

^How tall is your box Hetty?

 

[coolguy14788]

ok so i have final weight update...pineapple weighed in at 28.3g dried and the purple came in at 20.4 dried. my random mommas roots found the bottom of the pot 3 days ago and the pineapple momma found the bottom today going to wait one day or so then top them. once they recover i will flower! my weight was low of the GPW scale only .2GPW but it was only a 6 week long flower and i got more than i thought i was going too nextime i do a sog i will go with double the plants but hopefully i will not have to do sog again and i can stay doing two big plants!

 

[Hettyman]

its 140cm or 4.5ft tall, and 30x30 or 2x2, just a baby, but plenty enough for me. I can take the light up about another 6", and plan to go for 2 slightly bigger Cheese plants next time. They are seedlings at the mo, just getting their first set of real leaves