Zimmerman sues NBC

[Carthoris]

your a rascist becuase you see a black teen in a hoodie as evidence to your presumptions of his intentions .

.and you even said up top he went to go home down the T

, but you still refuse to admit that the frame of setting that makes Zimmerman up to no good is all based on his external appearance , . . . ..and your opinoin along iwth another bigot with a history of bigotry toward others

and since there is much more evidence to support he was on his way home in rainy weather in a a hoodie with two items he purchased at 7-11 . .

you refuse to acknowledged even the smallest amount of real facts for hearsay and conjecture all originally made up or claimed by teh shooter of a unarmed 17 year old kid, within his rights to walk home in the rain

your bias is obvious, UB is a bleeding heart lib so he has to take the victims side no matter what, and it is so obvious to every logical person here that Zimmerman hunted Z down and then confronted him . . . . and imho as M was Standing his ground was killed for it . . the constant reworking of the events by Z and his lawyers, multiple lawyers .. it is so obvious that its laughable to even assume otherwise . . kinda like OJ . . . now will he get off . . . that is the big question . . can he prove he had a constitutional right to kill that boy . . .. i doubt it


you cant cry wolf after you have made so many of teh same mistakes over and over and over . . . .in America we dont reward stupidity . . . . acquitted or guilty, Z will be a American loser the rest of his life

How long does it take to walk 1/2 of a mile. 40 minutes for a fit young man like Trayvon Martin. There is about 2000 steps in a mile for the average person. That means he took 1000 steps in 40 minutes, more or less. Take a step, count down two seconds, take another step. Walk to your mailbox doing this. If someone walked across my front yard this slowly then I would consider them to be acting suspicious. This isn't the speed of someone who is going somewhere, it is the speed of someone who is doing something else. The steps and everything might not be exact and probably lean on the conservative side since he was tall and his strides were likely more than average. People on crutches taking their time walk faster than that. Zimmerman's accounts and actions do not change this very important fact.

If he were white, yellow, brown, or black it would be the same. Suspicious. The honest truth is that calling people racist is easier than producing a counter argument. The fact is that Zimmerman did nothing illegal at least until the point of the encounter and that the encounter was wanted by Martin or he would of continued home.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

what does 40 minutes have to to with anything, and what yard did he walk slowly in front of . . and which yard was Zimmermans . . . .. all the answer to these question have the opposite effect of your point and lol

i saw the video and the recreations . . those are apartments/condoes . . .they dont have yards they have front and back doors . . .. its not like the trailer park . . .big apartment complexes only have personal yards if they are fenced in

and people walk past then through them all day long unless your some angry this is my rented land kinda person and mean mug everyone lol

 

[Carthoris]

Proudfoot, maybe? cn

lol.

I have monkey toes.

 

[Carthoris]

what does 40 minutes have to to with anything, and what yard did he walk slowly in front of . . and which yard was Zimmermans . . . .. all the answer to these question have the opposite effect of your point and lol

i saw the video adn the recreations . . those are apartments . . .they dont have yards they ahve front adn back doors . . .. its not liek the trailer park . . .big apartment complexs only have perosnal yards if they are fenced in

It isn't an apartment complex. They are townhouses. Townhouses generally have a yard. The point was that no one can walk that slow and not be suspicious if they are walking in front of your house. Especially given they had been robbing people in the neighborhood.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

also id have to say its a desperate stretch to try and say that one is giulty based on how long it tkae sthem to do something

again your assumption always come back to Black teen in hoodie out when its dark . . . . .this didnt happen at night fun bags, it was the evening not late in the night . . .there is no positive correlation to activity and crime till after 10 in most places .. but that's statistics not based on racial profiling so i guess they are to hard for you to understand

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

It isn't an apartment complex. They are townhouses. Townhouses generally have a yard. The point was that no one can walk that slow and not be suspicious if they are walking in front of your house. Especially given they had been robbing people in the neighborhood.

have you even seen the videos there are no yards . . . its open . . . . and they are all interconnected complexes . .even a big apartment is still an apartment complex when you stick 50 of em together.. splitting words lol . . thats all you got

your fallacy is the assumption that he was the one robbing the neighborhood is laughable . . its not provable . . . .they say there is a report of stolen goods . . . show me anything that traces that previous incident to the neighborhood . . . or even that evening and then back to Martin with any actual proof,

and theft of material items, items that serve no other purpose than to own and use, that aren't yours shouldnt give anyone to right to after the fact harm someone let alone kill them . . .all you fearful and weak individuals need to grow some balls, and stop thinking your kakis or your stuff is more important than someones life, now killed in the act of stealing . . . .i coudl see that a reasonable excuse . . that didnt happen here, he was hunted and confronted and cornered and then shot after reacting to a lunitcs assumptions of his intentions like yourself

if your neighbor thought you smoked weed with his underage daughter does that give him the right to assume giult and stalk you with a weapon . . nope! and since this action of Z's ended with him killing another human i see neglect on the getting out of car. PERIOD END OF STORY

you cant kill and stalk people because of an assumption . . silly rabbit tricks or for kids

 

[Carthoris]

also id have to say its a desperate stretch to try and say that one is giulty based on how long it tkae sthem to do something

again your assumption always come back to Black teen in hoodie out when its dark . . . . .this didnt happen at night fun bags, it was the evening not late in the night . . .there is no positive correlation to activity and crime till after 10 in most places .. but that's statistics not based on racial profiling so i guess they are to hard for you to understand

So a person in the rain wearing a hoodie in front of your house who is moving at sloth speed doesn't make you take note? How about if the person is in front of the neighbors house and people have been getting robbed on your street? Where exactly does suspicious start with you? What if you are the head of the neighborhood watch? How about if you are a police officer?

 

[Carthoris]

have you even seen the videos there are no yards . . . its open . . . . and they are all interconnected complexes . .even a big apartment is still an apartment complex when you stick 50 of em together.. splitting words lol . . thats all you got

your fallacy is the assumption that he was the one robbing the neighborhood is laughable . . its not provable . . . .they say there is a report of stolen goods . . . show me anything that traces that previous incident to the neighborhood . . . or even that evening and then back to Martin with any actual proof

if your neighbor thought you smoked weed with his underage daughter does that give him the right to assume giult and stalk you with a weapon . . nope! and since this action of Z's ended with him killing another human i see neglect on the getting out of car. PERIOD END OF STORY

you cant kill and stalk people because of an assumption . . silly rabbit tricks or for kids

Please show one time where I suggest that Martin was the one robbing the neighborhood or even insinuated that I thought it. However, Zimmerman did not know Martin and knew his neighborhood was getting robbed. The stolen goods was from him getting in trouble at school. If my neighbor thought I was smoking weed with his daughter then he could watch me and call the cops - which is what Zimmerman was doing. If I start beating his ass for watching me then he can defend himself. I keep stuff like this from happening by not hanging out with the neighbors underage daughters.

He never stalked anyone, and it can't be proven he followed Martin with the intent of killing him so your entire premise is like UB's underwear. Shitty.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

nope . . im not afraid of every one like you

also im not an idiot and lock my doors and windows . . . . and yes i have stood under veranda many times in my life on the phone . . .rain or not

he wasn't trespassing on Z property or anyone else's . . . and property that is specific in a complex liek that will be fenced in . . it has a lot to do with protocol for property rights that it does your fear of others

i live in a town where people are every where houses are close . . . and Z was walking home in his neighborhood . . . bottom line assumptions are not cause for action anywhere if you end up committing a crime, if your responsible and know how to not be a hot head then you can talk to whom ever you want . . if you a fearful bigot you end up beating women at parties attacking cops instigating fights that are racially motivated . . . . . . .this is what a bigot does . . i know my friend is one, when he got jumped by five dudes i laughed and said karma for all his predatory behavior . . . . like i said above a man, which Z is def not as he beats on women, owns his actions . . Z is a pussy looking for a escape route

 

[cannabineer]

So a person in the rain wearing a hoodie in front of your house who is moving at sloth speed doesn't make you take note? How about if the person is in front of the neighbors house and people have been getting robbed on your street? Where exactly does suspicious start with you? What if you are the head of the neighborhood watch? How about if you are a police officer?

Seriously for a second ... do you really envision T creeping along? Could 30 of those 40 minutes no have been talking to someone? cn

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Please show one time where I suggest that Martin was the one robbing the neighborhood or even insinuated that I thought it. However, Zimmerman did not know Martin and knew his neighborhood was getting robbed. The stolen goods was from him getting in trouble at school. If my neighbor thought I was smoking weed with his daughter then he could watch me and call the cops - which is what Zimmerman was doing. If I start beating his ass for watching me then he can defend himself. I keep stuff like this from happening by not hanging out with the neighbors underage daughters.

He never stalked anyone, and it can't be proven he followed Martin with the intent of killing him so your entire premise is like UB's underwear. Shitty.

It isn't an apartment complex. They are townhouses. Townhouses generally have a yard. The point was that no one can walk that slow and not be suspicious if they are walking in front of your house. Especially given they had been robbing people in the neighborhood.

oh my bad you just used a veiled racial slur to infer he was robbing as he and they have in common is they are suspicious, not my fult your to stupid to realize your association of skin color and dress to suspicious behavior . . . as the only thing you are Z actually knew was his look and his clothes at the moment Public enemy number one was seen walking home with Sweet Sweet Tea and candy . . so sinister .

.the reality is in complete oppostiion to yours and his assumptions or presumed guilt . . this means your actions would be negligent

not knowing someone while using racial profiling to assume guilt is a lapse in cognitive logical judgment . .and you just prove my point . . Z was a fearful little man . . . . .

all you bigots show it in your assumptions you just don't talk about it till, something like this comes up and lets everyone see a window into your lunacy


stalking dosnt require killing little boy . . and it can be proven as he moved from one spot to the next and them got out to continue on foot telling the dispatcher to have the cops call him as he was moving to wathc follow stalk Z .. .its all very plain i guess those with a limited grasp of the English language or comprehension skills

the kind of people who didnt think cig were bad for em until the companies siad it . . .cuase people that sell us things care about us . . lol

kinda how Z is selling himself . . . .but failing . . . .history of his mental stability is low, he got his beaten wife to lie to the court about ho wmuch money he had .. . hte guy is a habitual iiar and loser

 

[Carthoris]

Seriously for a second ... do you really envision T creeping along? Could 30 of those 40 minutes no have been talking to someone? cn

No, I don't envision him creeping around. The point was that he must of stopped somewhere or did something else. Would he have been shot if he just went home after he lost Zimmerman?

 

[Carthoris]

oh my bad you just used a veiled racial slur to infer he was robbing as he and they have in common is they are suspicious, not my fult your to stupid to realize your association of skin color and dress to suspicious behavior . . . as the only thing you are Z actually knew was his look and his clothes at the moment Public enemy number one was seen walking home with Sweet Sweet Tea and candy . . so sinister .

.the reality is in complete oppostiion to yours and his assumptions or presumed guilt . . this means your actions would be negligent

not knowing someone while using racial profiling to assume guilt is a lapse in cognitive logical judgment . .and you just prove my point . . Z was a fearful little man . . . . .

all you bigots show it in your assumptions you just don't talk about it till, something like this comes up and lets every see a window into your lunacy

Is that really the best you can do? If I meant to say that niggers had been robbing everyone I would of said "Niggers have been robbing everyone." No one believes I meant 'nigger' instead of 'they'. Even though I know you are illiterate, I will point out to you that 'they' in the sentence was described in the preceding sentence and it wasn't described as 'nigger'.

 

[fdd2blk]

Coming from the guy trolling the thread.

yes, i am bored. but at least i'm not trying to prove anything. and i'm right, this is all meaningless.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Is that really the best you can do? If I meant to say that niggers had been robbing everyone I would of said "Niggers have been robbing everyone." No one believes I meant 'nigger' instead of 'they'. Even though I know you are illiterate, I will point out to you that 'they' in the sentence was described in the preceding sentence and it wasn't described as 'nigger'.

also i never siad you meant that word, i said you connected "they" to martin by skin color, and that made martin suspicous to you and Z


how do they and martin connect?. . . . then how in any way can your bringing up they(as in the real robbers whomever they be) in any way in be a reflection on Martins character, from a visual stand point from a distance at night in a rain storm?

this ought to be good . . . .lets see if you can even sum up your thought into a answer

 

[cannabineer]

No, I don't envision him creeping around. The point was that he must of stopped somewhere or did something else. Would he have been shot if he just went home after he lost Zimmerman?

That presumes that Zimmerman wasn't looking to confront T. I consider that an unsafe presumption. cn

 

[Carthoris]

also i never siad you meant that word, i said you connected "they" to martin by skin color, and that made martin suspicous to you and Z


how do they and martin connect?. . . . then how in any way can your bringing up they(as in the real robbers whomever they be) in any way in a reflection on Martins character, from a visual stand point from a distance at night in a rain storm?

this ought to be good . . . .lets see if you can even sum up your thought into a answer

How do robbers normally look and act? Walking around slowly in a rainstorm in the dark seems pretty suspicious and people generally don't do that unless they are doing something else that requires them to. "Hey Dad, I am going to the store to buy tea and skittles in this rainstorm at night." Yea, right. I'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells of rainbow sherbert. He would be equally suspicious if he was white and doing the same thing. The only ones making this a race thing are the people calling people racist.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

How do robbers normally look and act? Walking around slowly in a rainstorm in the dark seems pretty suspicious and people generally don't do that unless they are doing something else that requires them to. "Hey Dad, I am going to the store to buy tea and skittles in this rainstorm at night." Yea, right. I'll believe that when my shit turns purple and smells of rainbow sherbert. He would be equally suspicious if he was white and doing the same thing. The only ones making this a race thing are the people calling people racist.

walking in the dark in the rain, not at the pace you would walk doesn't make anyone suspicious but you for being a crackpot future tinfoil hat wearer

your facts based on assumptions are a logical fallacy and only put more wieght into the fact that you like Z are just fearful bigots unable to get over your fear of other races . . stop backpedaling . . .you are the only person who brought up the N word with my ideas of they and martins connection . . . . your a flat out racist and its pathetic and obvious

fear fear fear . . .stop being so afraid . . . . why are there so many cowardss around

 

[Carthoris]

That presumes that Zimmerman wasn't looking to confront T. I consider that an unsafe presumption. cn

No it doesn't. Martin would of went home if he wanted to. We know that he hid and waited. We know this is true due to Zimmerman's locations during the 911 call and the fact that the fight happened as Zimmerman backtracked to his truck. If Martin hadn't wanted to confront Zimmerman then he would of just continued home and not stopped.

 

[cannabineer]

No it doesn't. Martin would of went home if he wanted to. We know that he hid and waited. We know this is true due to Zimmerman's locations during the 911 call and the fact that the fight happened as Zimmerman backtracked to his truck. If Martin hadn't wanted to confront Zimmerman then he would of just continued home and not stopped.

Are you certain that the backtrack wasn't part of a search? There's no way to assert that it was in the process of disengaging. If it was part of a deliberate search (something you cannot disprove from the patchy location records) that changes the complexion of your argument imo. cn