broad mites

[HGK420]

i do have something!!!!!! I've been lookin real close now on the sick leaves and it looks like spider mites but smaller and in a very low concentration! How o how o how. i bring in ZERO outside air and i JUST STARTED from SEED recently in a brand new nice a clean grow room...... OMG IM THE VIRGIN WHO GOT HERPES FROM A TOILET SEAT KILL ME NOW!

god this is the most beautiful garden I've ever grom the plants look immaculate except for a few sick leaves. i had 2 plants pretty much die on me and i tried to nurse em back to health over a month or so and i bet that was the cause i gave em an ez in. GOD DAMNIT!!!!!! see people take this as a lesson WRAP IT UP OR CUT IT OFF YOUR CHOICE~!! wtf. I'm never letting another person in my room another animal nothing... I'm ordering a tyvech suit tomorrow I'm getting CO2 tomorrow I'm gonan gas these guys think that will help??

wow guys sorry my heart is racing and shit right now I'm bout to freak out.... sorry if this came of as a rant/ramble

 

[HGK420]

is it ok to cry.........

 

[HGK420]

alright panic and depression have slightly subsided. I've managed my first counter assault. i felt like i got hit with a terrorist attack! so i thought to myself who's good at dealing with terrorist... isreal. so i went BALLISTIC on my plants and absolutely destroyed any and all of the terrorists habitat. i took out all there weapon production facilities and air strips first. (inside underbrush where they can reproduce and launch assaults from) cut it ALL UP trimmed my babies hard. then i hit them with my last bottle of zero mites i had. I'm gonna get some diatomaceous earth tomorrow(if it helps that is, Does it?) should i take a few i got in the bloom stage that are defnately infected and 1-2 weeks from finishing? i don't really want them to spread to the 15 others in the room that just came in. i think i should but I'm not sure how extreme do these spread from plant to plant?

 

[Murfy]

i hate to say it-

but if YOU spray flowers with AVID. you are a #10 DOUCHE. not accusing anyone here. it is a nerve gas cooked up by nazis to kill jews, oh it also will kill bugs.

i can't see how simple lye soap wouldn't kill many of them. they are soft bodied aren't they? simple biology dictates there death from lyed animal fats.
also, chemical bonds are frequency adjustments. all water has a frequency. by changing the bonds you change the frequency. electrolyzing water, in two separate vessels connected only by a "semi permeable membrane" creates on the positive(anode) side SUPEROXIDE, which is a powerful biological agent free radical. it is an oxygen molecule witha negative charge attached to the water molecule, but very reactive. when it meets the soft bodied bug, it permeates his body through a process known as osmosis. literally, the frequency inside his body has an overwhelming force that cannot withstand the frequency of the free radical you've just introduced to it.

i hope this helps. i tell people all the time, they would rather use avid. ionized water machines are very easy to make and the vids are all over the internet. it fucks up soft bodied bugs bad. the water that forms on the negative side is for drinking. some say it's a miracle cure( don't drink the low ph, superoxide side. the frequency will fuck you up!).

 

[HGK420]

i definitely don't plan on spraying the flowering ones. I'm gonna try to nip it off in veg.

 

[Murfy]

keep in mind-

it's systemic. has anyone tried nicotine juice on these broads? it is also a very strong poison, with a short half-life.

edit: do NOT breathe or ingest nicotine juice. very bad for heart attack.

 

[ProfessorPotSnob]

keep in mind-

it's systemic. has anyone tried nicotine juice on these broads? it is also a very strong poison, with a short half-life.

edit: do NOT breathe or ingest nicotine juice. very bad for heart attack.

I grow Indian Wild Tobacco every year for ceremonial reasons and the bonus is free pesticide as well . If you use Tobacco Rustica it will kill most any bug . In all my years growing this tobacco I have never seen a insect do any real damage to a plant . Sure a caterpillar will bite on a leaf now and then but only once lol ..

I steep the stems and extra leaves in water in order to make a insecticide ..

Thinking of insecticide concoctions the easiest and most effective method would be to collect many Broad mites in a vial , at least a few hundred . This would be blended well and aged and fermented in order to create beneficial bacteria that will wipe out all Broad Mites .
I did this with Spider Mites before but in the end it was work to be done and it took too much time for the bacteria to breed in sufficient numbers

 

[Murfy]

interesting-

don't accidentally breed some zombie bug though. that wouldn't be good.

 

[fattiemcnuggins]

keep in mind-

it's systemic. has anyone tried nicotine juice on these broads? it is also a very strong poison, with a short half-life.

edit: do NOT breathe or ingest nicotine juice. very bad for heart attack.

Or get it on your hands...doesn't work 100% on aphids but I may have not used strong enough tobacco.(this was about a yr ago)

I heard use strong pipe tobacco*


posted as you were posting PPS-I'm sure indian non gmo would work even better if you could get your hands on it

 

[Cory and trevor]

Tis the fucking season apparently!!! Know how you can spot a new grower who thinks he's better than he is? He's the dick that says "I've been growing forever and never had a bug problem you're probably not keeping a clean grow etc." Everybody gets them. great growers all have fixes, remedies and stories-asshat newbies got insults. I got a lot of shit talked to me two years ago for my first mite infestation when I came looking for help this season I'm super happy with the posts coming in threads like this totally helpful and very united to help. congratulations RIU Michigan members you're all badass. good luck to those down on their luck and thank you to the experts helping us out.

 

[burgertime2010]

I grow Indian Wild Tobacco every year for ceremonial reasons and the bonus is free pesticide as well . If you use Tobacco Rustica it will kill most any bug . In all my years growing this tobacco I have never seen a insect do any real damage to a plant . Sure a caterpillar will bite on a leaf now and then but only once lol .. I steep the stems and extra leaves in water in order to make a insecticide .. Thinking of insecticide concoctions the easiest and most effective method would be to collect many Broad mites in a vial , at least a few hundred . This would be blended well and aged and fermented in order to create beneficial bacteria that will wipe out all Broad Mites . I did this with Spider Mites before but in the end it was work to be done and it took too much time for the bacteria to breed in sufficient numbers

I am willing to try anything at this point. We, as a community, need to figure this one out. I have done research and the options are grim. Can you explain a bit more the concoction.

 

[fattiemcnuggins]

***(myself and probably hundreds of others headed to store for fresh no pest strips)

LOL. how long do you gas for PPs?

In the veg I usually do 3 days once a month, room all closed up. But nothing in flower.

Are they safe to use in flower? My guess has been no. I know the plants don't absorb the dichlorvos, but could it settle onto the surface of the buds?

 

[chuck estevez]

I had these little bastards bad, they ruined everything, I tried everything. This is how i got back to normal.

Anything that was greatly infected got thrown out. All finishing plants got chopped and hung on a wire with tanglefoot at each end and a sticky trap that touched the part where I chopped( all mites climb to the top)
they would get stuck to the trap or in the tanglefoot. I would burn the wire ever few hours with a lighter.( no mite can withstand fire,lol) The plant didn't come down until all mites were dead.
spayed floor and walls of flower room with forbid( no flowering plants were sprayed).
In veg, I alternated between avid and forbid, Not my favorite way to go, But I was at war and chemical weapons were needed.
I am currently (knock on wood) bug free, but summer is coming, so we shall see if they return.
like stated earlier, treat rooms like labs, do not wear same shoes and clothes from the day in your rooms.Quarantine anything you take in from someone else(or just don't take anything from anyone)

 

[burgertime2010]

Strangely, certain strains are resistant to broad mite infestation. I wonder why?

 

[burgertime2010]

I am trying to get my room to 120 degrees before I put anything in there. If you can manage to run hotter than usual (CO2, Silicate) it will slow them down.

 

[ProfessorPotSnob]

I am willing to try anything at this point. We, as a community, need to figure this one out. I have done research and the options are grim. Can you explain a bit more the concoction.

Bacteriology is not my fortes sad to say , I learnt of this procedure from a Biologist Professor 25 years ago . He simply stated that every insect can be blended in water to start a bacteria culture , room temp or better yet in the 80s and high 90s to accelerate the process .
I never asked too much about this as I was more curious to what the hell the stench ridden liquid in the beaker was .
He was brewing a Mite eradication tea as he called it lol and he simply stated that certain bacteria will thrive on each type of insect and that using the pest itself would begin the culture and allow him to culture this particular bacteria that is then sprayed upon the crop infested . It takes a few days for the culture to be ready for dilution in water.

I also ran into an old school grower back in the 90s who relied on this method as well as it never failed him

***(myself and probably hundreds of others headed to store for fresh no pest strips)

LOL. how long do you gas for PPs?

In the veg I usually do 3 days once a month, room all closed up. But nothing in flower.

Are they safe to use in flower? My guess has been no. I know the plants don't absorb the dichlorvos, but could it settle onto the surface of the buds?

When I use Dichlorvos its normally with Pest Strips as a bottle costs hundreds of dollars verses $ 8 a strip . I too use them for 3 days in a sealed room and it is repeated once more in 3 days if there was an infestation .

Dichlorovos evaporates in a very short time , in fact a lab owner explained that if it was found in a test by the time it was retested that it would no longer be found .. The controversial discussion about the safety of this in general has been argued relentlessly on the net , sad to say most people are not even educated upon the subject in the first place . I have used them a few times for flowers and in the end all was good and the crops saved . I generally only use the chemical for infestations as I would hate to see a resistant mite due to such but then again a strip has only about a week of real effectiveness , after that they are more of a novelty lol

Working in a cold storage plant introduced me to the facts as its used regularly in the industry and just about all food has been subjected to it at one point in time ..

 

[ProfessorPotSnob]

Tis the fucking season apparently!!! Know how you can spot a new grower who thinks he's better than he is? He's the dick that says "I've been growing forever and never had a bug problem you're probably not keeping a clean grow etc." Everybody gets them. great growers all have fixes, remedies and stories-asshat newbies got insults. I got a lot of shit talked to me two years ago for my first mite infestation when I came looking for help this season I'm super happy with the posts coming in threads like this totally helpful and very united to help. congratulations RIU Michigan members you're all badass. good luck to those down on their luck and thank you to the experts helping us out.

Paying it forward one way or another is what it is all about imho ..
Damn straight , I know all to well that nobody is 100 % immune from Insect and fungal infections when growing indoors ..

Thought I would note that it is time now to take extra general precautions and to be on alert more so than normally , clean all you like but the bugs and spores will arrive no matter .

 

[fattiemcnuggins]

Bacteriology is not my fortes sad to say , I learnt of this procedure from a Biologist Professor 25 years ago . He simply stated that every insect can be blended in water to start a bacteria culture , room temp or better yet in the 80s and high 90s to accelerate the process .
I never asked too much about this as I was more curious to what the hell the stench ridden liquid in the beaker was .
He was brewing a Mite eradication tea as he called it lol and he simply stated that certain bacteria will thrive on each type of insect and that using the pest itself would begin the culture and allow him to culture this particular bacteria that is then sprayed upon the crop infested . It takes a few days for the culture to be ready for dilution in water.

I also ran into an old school grower back in the 90s who relied on this method as well as it never failed him



When I use Dichlorvos its normally with Pest Strips as a bottle costs hundreds of dollars verses $ 8 a strip . I too use them for 3 days in a sealed room and it is repeated once more in 3 days if there was an infestation .

Dichlorovos evaporates in a very short time , in fact a lab owner explained that if it was found in a test by the time it was retested that it would no longer be found .. The controversial discussion about the safety of this in general has been argued relentlessly on the net , sad to say most people are not even educated upon the subject in the first place . I have used them a few times for flowers and in the end all was good and the crops saved . I generally only use the chemical for infestations as I would hate to see a resistant mite due to such but then again a strip has only about a week of real effectiveness , after that they are more of a novelty lol

Working in a cold storage plant introduced me to the facts as its used regularly in the industry and just about all food has been subjected to it at one point in time ..

Sweet.! I think they are a damn useful tool to have in the arsenal. Especially when getting rooms ready for plants, or between cycles.

 

[HGK420]

I took out there "supply routes" so to say. i put blue painters tape around the stem for a couple inches and spackled some tanglefoot all over it. I'm ordering several chem attacks both bad chems and not so bad chems gonna hit em with the not so bad first. >.< let this be a lesson to you guys look closely for these buggers i spend 6-10 hours a day in my room and these bastards have been right under my nose for weeks now and i never noticed them... months possibly!

 

[fattiemcnuggins]

I smear vaseline at the base of all my flowering plants. not sure if it does much but sure as hell doesn't hurt.