Confucious
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I have always enjoyed smoking my scissor hash after I am done trimming and its still like nice gooey bubble. Some of the best tasting hash in my opinion. Love the Scissor Hash.
The French Cannoli` Hash Thread
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Frenchy Cannoli
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If you wash with any solvent (but water) you dissolve the trichomes so you cannot call that hash anymore it is an oil extract.
Frenchy Cannoli
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Yes huge difference, hydraulic is an export pre-press, the trichomes hold together but they are not a mass of resin and they did not have a decarb. Hand pressed has always been the top and hard to get even in producing countries
Thundercat
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Just finished trimming for the night, and ended up with about a 1/4 of a gram of charas off my new strawberry plant very frosty!!
I worked it in my palm for a good while, in which time the smell really came out. Can't wait to work with more of it cus it was a pretty small ball, I'll have several more of this strain going into flower in a few weeks. Sorry no pics of the ball the camera is dead. Night guys!
I worked it in my palm for a good while, in which time the smell really came out. Can't wait to work with more of it cus it was a pretty small ball, I'll have several more of this strain going into flower in a few weeks. Sorry no pics of the ball the camera is dead. Night guys!
Mr.Vega
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....oh...I see...gotcha
thetrickstergod
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Can the hand pressing be reverse-engineered? At the end of the day it's all a chemical process and replicating the chemical changes that occur during hand pressing to a more scalable process would be interesting.
Confucious
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Never actually knew that, see I learn something new everyday about this wonderful plant and its properties.
Frenchy Cannoli
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I do not think so but I am not into mechanic at all so do not listen to me
'ome Grown
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Thundercat
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Isn't this what the hot bottle method basically is? Scaling the same principles up to a larger quantity? Maybe I got confused along the way but I thought that was the idea?
Frenchy Cannoli
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The more material you have to work with, the less accurate will be your job. The hot water bottle is a tool to control the temperature and make sure that you create a mass of resin, the quantity you can work with and still deliver the highest standard has a limit. So the question is as always what do you care for QUANTITY or QUALITY.
All the producing countries of the world went for quantity when the demand became high. Should California do the same or go for QUALITY, I personally would like to see California export the best Hashish in the world, that's why I am teaching you all I know.
All the producing countries of the world went for quantity when the demand became high. Should California do the same or go for QUALITY, I personally would like to see California export the best Hashish in the world, that's why I am teaching you all I know.
Confucious
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See I'm right there with you on that, cuz really what's the point of producing shitty hash when we all have the knowledge of creating good quality trim from the medicine we grow and the knowledge of how to make it after we have grown that good medicine.
Frenchy Cannoli
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My point exactly and even more so when you have the best genetics and some of the best growers worldwide
Mr.Vega
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"Quality versus quantity"...this debate and deccision to be made goes for all drugs and drug users..and will always b around...in my opinion the smarter more experienced users will always go for quality....but ull always have those dummies out there that wanna big ole bag of shitty dope(whatever drug it may be) that they gotta keep dippin into every 15 minutes as opposed to the bag of fire they only gotta open every couple hours....so unfortunately there will always stil b shitty hash around I'm sure...ha
I'd say u can compare this to some degree to the beer industry. You have the big boyz who make quantity of the same thing over and over, and ya know what, a large percentage of americans drink it frequently. Then you have the micro brews, which are more costly and I'd say generally better than the 'big guys'. There will always be a place for both. I personally have always gone for quality, but that's me. Thanx so much Frenchie for sharing this information.
thetrickstergod
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I have not seen any details on yield for handpressed hash but my assumption is that rolling four grams of charas is a impressive yield in a day. For personal consumption 4G's is more than a enough but not something you are going to feed a family on. Applying the physics of hand-pressed hash to commercial ice wax production seems like it could potentially improve the ice wax, maybe running the ice wax through a warm bread machine would do the trick
William Wonder
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Yes, sifting in a walk-in freezer is the ultimate. I've had access to restaurant walk-ins. It work so well because trichomes become brittle and lose their stickiness. It works so well, I'm convinced it'll be the preferred method of collecting trichomes in the future. It's basically the old way only in a freezer. Proper freezer hash will melt in your hands and can easily be worked using Frenchy's post collection processes.
Frenchy Cannoli
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The 2 Afghanis friends, who "tutored" me for a few year, could hand press 20-30 g at a time a few time a day. I was making approx. 15 g a Charas per "hand-full" 3 time a day in India which is not much but I have small hands and a super light touch.I have not seen any details on yield for handpressed hash but my assumption is that rolling four grams of charas is a impressive yield in a day. For personal consumption 4G's is more than a enough but not something you are going to feed a family on. Applying the physics of hand-pressed hash to commercial ice wax production seems like it could potentially improve the ice wax, maybe running the ice wax through a warm bread machine would do the trick
thetrickstergod
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Awesome. Can't wait to see your technique. Cali can learn much from the French, just ask the folks over in the Napa.
Frenchy Cannoli
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I have some Space Queen trims to work with this week, first time, I can't wait.A Few years ago I made a Hash Ball for Ed when I went down to edit my book I thought you guys would get a kick out of this
The point is NOT all resin's are created equal
I have mentioned before the unusual quality of Space Queen kief, it is actually some of the purest resin I have worked with. It has uber large heads that make it easy to capture and it has a special tackiness that allows it to stick to itself. Most kief has to be pressed under extreme pressure to make hash but with our special lady all ya have to do is touch a dry bud and then rub your fingers together.
I first noticed this when I was trimming the plant and shards of resin piled up on my scissors forcing me to clean them every few minutes and collecting a huge pile of scissor goo that we always enjoy smoking the next day after it dries.
The second time I noticed this was shucking the seeds from Space Queen, the resin piled up on my hands much more so than any other strain I work with
When we harvested Jills Hydro plant abit early do to a slight mildew outbreak I had ear marked the plant for butter or Tincture but when I was processing the shake the resin was sticking to everything so I ran her through Bubblemans 3 screen kief box,
This is a much larger ball I made off camera.
It smells like Cherry hashish!!!
Pretty cool stuff huh?
Sub
Good timing and perfect inspiration