Organic grown wheat contains GM impurities

[Doer]

You might be right, I am no botanist/farmer/weaver. Hemp has to give cotton a strong run for "best in show", though.

You want a hemp hair shirt? For penitence? Just kidding, I use burlap. I am completely lost from the idea that fine fabric can be produced from Hemp. Is possible?

 

[desert dude]

You want a hemp hair shirt? For penitence? Just kidding, I use burlap. I am completely lost from the idea that fine fabric can be produced from Hemp. Is possible?

I think it is indeed possible, though I claim no expertise. I have heard that hemp based paper is of the absolute highest quality.

From wiki:

"Hemp fiber was widely used throughout history. Items ranging from rope, to fabrics, to industrial materials were made from hemp fiber. Hemp was often used to make sail canvas, and the word canvas derives from cannabis.[SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP] Today, a modest hemp fabric industry exists, and hemp fibers can be used in clothing.[SUP][17][/SUP] Pure hemp has a texture similar to linen."

Linen ain't bad...

 

[desert dude]

An interesting side track in my search for hemp fibers... I have never actually seen the infamous MJ tax stamp before.

 

[cannabineer]

You might be right, I am no botanist/farmer/weaver. Hemp has to give cotton a strong run for "best in show", though.

Show me premium linens (sic!) made of hemp and not cotton and I'll entertain the notion. I've only seen coarse fabrics made of hemp. cn

Linen ain't bad...

But linen is simply not as soft and supple as cotton afaik. I've never seen de luxe linens (there is that, again) made of linen. Cotton, yes. Silk, yes. No other fibers ...

 

[Doer]

Well, now I'm thinking that flax makes good linen and maybe a hemp blend.

The real problem with cotton is that except in the USA and Egypt, the cotton is short strand.

Short strand is a bit softer in the high thread counts but has very little wear value compared to long strand.

 

[cannabineer]

Well, now I'm thinking that flax makes good linen and maybe a hemp blend.

The real problem with cotton is that except in the USA and Egypt, the cotton is short strand.

Short strand is a bit softer in the high thread counts but has very little wear value compared to long strand.

But I like Egyptian cotton. cn

 

[nontheist]

Fuck hemp I have no desire to build a positive pressure chamber around a negative pressure chamber to grow in.

 

[Harrekin]

Fuck hemp I have no desire to build a positive pressure chamber around a negative pressure chamber to grow in.

Hemp grows basically anywhere, we grow cannabis indoors simply to hide it...

It's the whole "illegal drug" thing...

 

[desert dude]

Hemp grows basically anywhere, we grow cannabis indoors simply to hide it...

It's the whole "illegal drug" thing...

No shit. Look at the wiki page with pictures hemp fields.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

 

[nontheist]

Hemp grows basically anywhere, we grow cannabis indoors simply to hide it...

It's the whole "illegal drug" thing...

Yes but hemp will pollinate cannabis and fuck your shit up and since no house maintains a positive pressure at all times (unless custom installed) it would suck ass to have commercial hemp growing around any grow.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes but hemp will pollinate cannabis and fuck your shit up and since no house maintains a positive pressure at all times (unless custom installed) it would suck ass to have commercial hemp growing around any grow.

never heard of filters on the intake fans?

 

[Doer]

But I like Egyptian cotton. cn

I think you must mean that is why you like it, long strand cotton, similar to Alabama cotton.

 

[Doer]

Yes but hemp will pollinate cannabis and fuck your shit up and since no house maintains a positive pressure at all times (unless custom installed) it would suck ass to have commercial hemp growing around any grow.

The fastest growing strains, known, are Ruderalis x Indica. You get the auto flower varieties. IAC, filtered intake for mold and pollen, I say.

 

[canndo]

On the anti-GM point, the environmentalists are coming from a religious point of view. Their objections to GM crops are based in superstition and they are being steered by rent-seeking cronies looking to feather their own nests.

It never stops astounding me that when there is an ideological dispute between big business and a small group of scientists or alarm raisers, it is always the grant money and pitiful pay of the later that causes so many to claim that money is the motivation for their actions while oh so conveniently ignoring the billions of dollars at risk for companies like Monsanto. Monsanto, Bayer and some of the others are now in the process of seeding front groups with the intent to inject "reason" into what is otherwise a purely scientific debate. We saw this during the tobacco scandal and later involving the global warming dispute.

Scientists and concerned citizens are not necessarily doing what they are doing for the tens of millions that might - Might be generated so much as Monsanto is attempting to convince the country that everything is just fine with their GM products and millions of tons of roundup in order to protect their tens of BILLIONS in profits.

Not only are GM products disrupting our health and ecology but they are now beginning to disrupt international trade and export. Many countries are refusing our produce for fear of taint. You don't think is sad that China has higher food purity standards than the U.S.?

 

[desert dude]

It never stops astounding me that when there is an ideological dispute between big business and a small group of scientists or alarm raisers, it is always the grant money and pitiful pay of the later that causes so many to claim that money is the motivation for their actions while oh so conveniently ignoring the billions of dollars at risk for companies like Monsanto. Monsanto, Bayer and some of the others are now in the process of seeding front groups with the intent to inject "reason" into what is otherwise a purely scientific debate. We saw this during the tobacco scandal and later involving the global warming dispute.

Scientists and concerned citizens are not necessarily doing what they are doing for the tens of millions that might - Might be generated so much as Monsanto is attempting to convince the country that everything is just fine with their GM products and millions of tons of roundup in order to protect their tens of BILLIONS in profits.

Not only are GM products disrupting our health and ecology but they are now beginning to disrupt international trade and export. Many countries are refusing our produce for fear of taint. You don't think is sad that China has higher food purity standards than the U.S.?

Two questions:

1. Support your claim that GM products are disrupting our health, etc.
2. You are a rent seeking crony who makes his living from the anti-GM movement, are you not?

 

[canndo]

And it was. Paul Ehrlich predicted doom... DOOOOMMMMMMM, for all of humanity. Norman Borlaug rolled up his sleeves and here we are, well past our predicted expiration date.

"The Population Bomb is a best-selling book written by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich (who was uncredited), in 1968.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] It warned of the mass starvation of humans in the 1970s and 1980s due to overpopulation, as well as other major societal upheavals, and advocated immediate action to limit population growth. Fears of a "population explosion" were widespread in the 1950s and 60s, but the book and its author brought the idea to an even wider audience.


"Norman Ernest Borlaug (March 25, 1914 – September 12, 2009)[SUP][1][/SUP] was an American agronomist, humanitarian and Nobel laureate who has been called "the father of the Green Revolution"[SUP][2][/SUP] and "The Man Who Saved A Billion Lives". He is one of seven people to have won the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Gold Medal[SUP][3][/SUP] and was also awarded the Padma Vibhushan, India's second highest civilian honor.[SUP][4]"[/SUP]

Both are wiki citations.

Never ever forget the story of the little boy who cried wolf, he cried when there was no wolf, cried again, and there was no wolf but in the end, he still wound up as a snack. Just because something predicted once does not come to pass does not mean it never will.

 

[canndo]

Ok, read this slowly...

Roundup is a herbicide which kills plants.

The only difference between Monsanto crops and normal crops is Monsanto crops have a tiny line of genetic code from another plant which is naturally resistant to Roundup to make (most of) them survive herbicide spraying.

Why cant you smelly hippies get that point?!

This particular smelly hippie gets the point. Because the plant that is modified can survive baths of herbicide it gets more and more contaminated as the weeds surrounding it learn the same trick - but we don't eat the weeds, we eat the herbicide drenched corn. Let alone the fact that there is not just a single line of genetics that are modified, markers are placed and switches flipped within the dna, some purposefully, some accidentaly.

 

[desert dude]

Never ever forget the story of the little boy who cried wolf, he cried when there was no wolf, cried again, and there was no wolf but in the end, he still wound up as a snack. Just because something predicted once does not come to pass does not mean it never will.

What does it matter? An asteroid will strike our planet and we will all die.

 

[Doer]

This particular smelly hippie gets the point. Because the plant that is modified can survive baths of herbicide it gets more and more contaminated as the weeds surrounding it learn the same trick - but we don't eat the weeds, we eat the herbicide drenched corn. Let alone the fact that there is not just a single line of genetics that are modified, markers are placed and switches flipped within the dna, some purposefully, some accidentaly.

You meant "...is not a single line of genetics that are NOT modified..."...? I hope. typo.

Not sure what you mean by a line of genetics....do you mean a strain of genetics? Or a line of research?

 

[desert dude]

Rachel Carson wrote "Silent Spring" and helped to create the wacko, dirt-worshipping left.

Fast forward to the spring of 2013 and the cicadas are deafening on the east coast. File Rachel in the "sky is falling" bin next to Ehrlich.