Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

headtreep

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Hÿdra;9167288 said:
SO the roots, and the stump are broken down?? how long does that take??? Will i need to make 4-5 pots and rotate them after use? Allowing enough time for the stump and roots to break down???? OR can i just plant next to the stump?
No waiting involved bro. Picture a big ass tree in your head outside and think about what you would do if you wanted to cut it down and plant something next it to it. Would you be waiting for the stump to decompose? Not my lazy ass, Id plant and go!
 
Cann--Your mailbox is full again. No worries, bro. Thanks for the info.

I've got to go back and read this thread from the beginning so I can join the fun. I've got a couple 20 gallon no-till ROLS pots running. I just bought some GRD, crab shell and EWC today. I'm trying to coordinate with a friend to get some horse manure to get my worm bins started. Probably this weekend.

More later after I'm caught up.
 

headtreep

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Cann--Your mailbox is full again. No worries, bro. Thanks for the info.

I've got to go back and read this thread from the beginning so I can join the fun. I've got a couple 20 gallon no-till ROLS pots running. I just bought some GRD, crab shell and EWC today. I'm trying to coordinate with a friend to get some horse manure to get my worm bins started. Probably this weekend.

More later after I'm caught up.
Better him than me, lol.
 

sullivan666

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You cut it from the base and leave the stump like you would outside with a big ass tree. The little stump will slowly decompose and break down.

Haven't heard of a couple of those...I've got a lot of reading material in the queue already but I'll def check some of these out. Thanks!
 

sullivan666

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Anybody else getting this message when trying to access the forums over at TSD?

[h=1]Forbidden[/h]You don't have permission to access / on this server.
 

hyroot

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2 more observations.

1: I have not been using aloe in a foliar the past week. Waiting for powder. Any how every plant I sprayed with a kelp foliar. Made from steeping kelp meal for 2 days then straining. 10 min after each application in veg and 1st week of flower and veggies outside. Everything was super perky. First time this week using kelp meal alone in a foliar.

my whole place smells like Newport Pier. ( you know cause of the kelp)


2: I had 2 cuttings sitting in a shot glass of water for 2 days. i changed water with diluted coconut water. Several hours later, both cuttings each have 1 root, 2 cm long. So add coconut water when cloning.
:arrow::leaf::hump:
 

hyroot

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Im shocked too. I keep cuttings in water when I procrastinate on doing clones. To keep them alive. Not actual cloning method. They barely have a root though.
 

headtreep

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Both are great but since TWN is newer I haven't finished it. I don't read all books cover to cover personally since I have many going at once typically.
 

Cann

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:mrgreen: I have almost all those books LOL....its funny, I was gonna take a book picture and upload it as well..just got TWN the other day, pretty excited to read it (although I don't know if i'll have time/need to with all the activity on TSD...christ).

Sam - sorry bout the mailbox...fills up really fast and there is only a 50 message limit! too many folks sending me PMs about pH meters and shit...LOL. i might have to c/p some old messages into a word document to make room LOL...theres some good info in those messages that I can't just delete to make space!
 

Cann

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~13 days after cutting off the plant, dipping straight into 200x aloe powder (making sure not to dip it in water first!), then placing into the rapidrooter.

can't get much easier than that. solid root development

roots2.jpg
 

Cann

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Also, Hydra - you're going to need more in your pot than just coco, peat, and perlite + amendments if you want to have success with a no-till operation. humus is key. at least 25% of the soil should be premium (preferably homemade) compost or vermicompost. I prefer to use 33% if I can afford it...

without the humus your soil will never be complete. it's as simple as that.
 

headtreep

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Also, Hydra - you're going to need more in your pot than just coco, peat, and perlite + amendments if you want to have success with a no-till operation. humus is key. at least 25% of the soil should be premium (preferably homemade) compost or vermicompost. I prefer to use 33% if I can afford it...

without the humus your soil will never be complete. it's as simple as that.
Most of my $$$ goes to vermicompost/compost and humus building. That's my focus at least as I like to make sure my leaves are nice and deep green. Matter of fact I'm going to start some more soil today :)
 

hyroot

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So do you guys just keep your plants deep green up until chop without any fade?
I try too. I have a couple that are fading tough in week 7 flower My northern lights og is a phos and potassium hog. First run with clones of this strain though. I think they got light bleaching too.. my Hindu skunk is doing the same. My master kush and cheese berry and soma rock bud are all dark green.
 

Cann

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mine usually fade...i think its more about the plant aging than actually depleting the nutrients in the soil...

thats just my take on it though..

i can chop a yellowed out plant @ 9 weeks, repot a clone the same day, and it will grow lush and green until the last week or two of flower...then I rinse and repeat. they always seem to fade, yet there never seems to be a lack of nutrients. i blame senescence...

i enjoy seeing fall colors in my plants...all green to the end is boring LOL
 
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