Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

Dr.Amber Trichome

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i really did your avitar stoneslacker. are those your past plants? and if they are you really did killer job growing them...please can yu tell me what strain was that?.. really nice scrogger and fat thick dense buds.. reminds me of Casey JOnes i once grew. good luck with your present grow.
 

stoneslacker

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I'd bet my last buck if it's that nice, it's the DJ's... far superior to all other variations imo... pricey but you get what you pay for eh?
That was my guess too mate. Phenos being like fingerprints it is hard to be exact but she reminds me most of Flo's. The way it is with all things, quality is never cheap.


Hey Stone, trust things are well with you. I don`t have any experience with CS, so I wouldn`t be able to offer any insight into it ... But I personally would maybe expect a male or at least a hermie potentially as whether stress played into the equation at all in the process. Can never tell I guess until you test the viability first-go-round ... :). My logic would be if the CS was done correctly, in itself, would produce female seeds from what I understand ... refered to as an S1 strain - (Selfed), if done late enough into flowering. Not sure if a BX (if possible) would be necessary to achieve a 100% female ratio. But again, no CS experience. Best of luck mate, I`ll surely be watching to find out same as you :p

KC :weed:
Thanks for this man. I really don't have any expectations so it will be interesting to see what happens. I will just have to keep a very close eye on them. This mainline grow has me excited, plant training is always enjoyable and this is extreme training. Thanks again for your help.


i really did your avitar stoneslacker. are those your past plants? and if they are you really did killer job growing them...please can yu tell me what strain was that?.. really nice scrogger and fat thick dense buds.. reminds me of Casey JOnes i once grew. good luck with your present grow.
Hey Dr. Amb, thanks for the great compliment. The avi pic is my latest grow I just completed here in this journal. Was a very enjoyable 3 strain scrog grow consisting of Blue Cheese, Blueberry and Blackjack. On page 45 is an overall canopy timeline, from day 1 of flower till harvest. Here is that canopy shot in a larger size, the blackjack is the fat one on the right, bluecheese back left and blueberry up front. Thanks again for stopping by and the great compliment.

Edit: The blackjack is from Nirvana, sold on the attitude from Sativa Seeds. The Blueberry is a clone only my buddy picked up so I don't know the breeder but am leaning toward DJ Flo. I just found out some more about the bluecheese from my mates mentor. My buddy told me it was an old UK cheese and blueberry mix but his mentor who gave him the cut assured me it is the cut from Big Budda. Claims that it is the best BC strain around and having tried Barneys farm's version I would agree with him. This is much stinkier and earthier than the Barney cut. Just thought I would share the background on the bluecheese if any one was interested in it.



Update on the mainline event. Trimmed and bonded the Black Russian and topped her for 4. I have been too impatient in training her and should give her longer recovery time, but she keeps on growing and trucking along. Not sure when I should trim her lower nodes, should I leave them until she has vegged for a while or is it better to trim them right away. Here she is 23 days from sprout.




Nl x Skunk I have topped, trimmed her first node and bonded to the trunk. I did not prune her for 4 yet, she needs a bit more growth before I can top her again.



Mazar x Great White Shark is the slowest grower of the 3. I have topped her at the 2nd node and am trying to let her first node go a little longer in hopes of getting at least one of 3 clones to root. She is a stout little bush and I need to let her main arms get a bit longer before bonding her to the trunk.


The poor little auto and the 4 bastard seedlings.



Peace guys and girls
 

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eastcoastmo

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Thanks for checking back Dr. Blueberry is definitely one of my all time favs, I wish I were able to identify my cut and let you all know. I do think it resembles DJ Short's cut alot. Puff, puff, pass ---> Blueberry joints



Thanks Caddy! You're growing the incredible SSH, I have no doubt they will be spectacular. Cheers!



Hey easty! They are about the perfect RH right now and are curing up very nicely.



Hey who! Glad to see you made it back from your trip alright. Great to hear about the ideas you're working on, you are just the girl to implement them. Love to hear and see them come about, keep me posted. :lol: I am going to attempt a mainline trial here with Black Russian from Delicious Seeds, and Northern Lights x Skunk, Mazar x Great White Shark, both from World of Seeds. I am also running a few G13 Pineapple Express beans my bro made. ATB Who!



Thanks for stopping in Aev! I love my simple little hempy setup, thanks for the compliment.



She is a really great looking strain hey! I am not the biggest fan of purps, but there are some good crosses out there. I'm sure the OG gives it plenty of fire! She sure has some great bag appeal though, thanks for showing her to us!

KC the thread gets a bit congested at times and I tend to hide my questions real well behind all my rambling. :eyesmoke:The Pineapple Express beans my mate made, I was wondering a few things about. He took a clone of a very consistent mother and used c. silver and harvested some pollen. Then he seeded another PE mother in an attempt to make feminized seeds. My question would be are these seeds all female then, since no male genes were used in reproduction? I will watch these closely, but will they have a higher chance to herm due to being made this way? Thanks for any help you can give mate.

Sorry Stoney must've missed this post.

Yes you can expect 99% of the seeds to be feminized. There is always a 1% chance of a male according to genetics. You will only have hermie issues if the parent plants have thrown bananas. If they were both pure sinsimilla then they'll be sweet.
Were both the parents from regular seeds or femmed seeds? If they are femmed you will end up with all males as a femmed bean crossed to femmed bean will only produce infertile males. Hope this info helps mate :D

Edit- i should look at all posts before replying lol. Your girls are looking great man, taking to the training very well :D
 

yankeegreen

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Just caught up on your thread stone and the next gen is looking great. You've nailed the first phase of the mainline process and are right to wait before topping again -give those new heads time to get established before pruning again. Watching the GWSxM closely. Nice work man!
 

stoneslacker

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Sorry Stoney must've missed this post.

Yes you can expect 99% of the seeds to be feminized. There is always a 1% chance of a male according to genetics. You will only have hermie issues if the parent plants have thrown bananas. If they were both pure sinsimilla then they'll be sweet.
Were both the parents from regular seeds or femmed seeds? If they are femmed you will end up with all males as a femmed bean crossed to femmed bean will only produce infertile males. Hope this info helps mate :D

Edit- i should look at all posts before replying lol. Your girls are looking great man, taking to the training very well :D
Thanks for the great response mate. No worries, my posts can be a bit long at times so I am trying to remember to bold the important questions and what not. I thought he said they were both from fem beans, but I may be mistaken. He did grow out a couple and they turned out nice, no hermies. From what I understand he used the CS on a clone of his mother then selfed the same mother when he put her into flower. These would be S1's then I believe? I originally thought he pollinated another mother but I was mistaken. I will definitely keep a close eye on them, and bin them if necessary. Thanks again Easty!

Just caught up on your thread stone and the next gen is looking great. You've nailed the first phase of the mainline process and are right to wait before topping again -give those new heads time to get established before pruning again. Watching the GWSxM closely. Nice work man!
Sweet, thanks for the words of encouragement yankee. Nice to be able to lean on your guy's experience and know I'm heading in the right direction. Your post on the 4-head HB is the reason why I am waiting to prune mate! Thanks again.

Edit: Of course I can't rep either of you yet. Lol, I'm off to whore some rep out to people so I can get back to you guys! Peace all
 

eastcoastmo

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No probs at all dude :D

Yeah if he took a clone off the mother and the mother was a femmed bean there is a high liklihood of the beans being male. Cant hurt to try them out though hey :D
 

stoneslacker

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Alright made some progress in the training today, and had a new discovery. The Black Russian is responding great to the topping and bonding. Her 2 new heads are starting to shoot up and soon I will be able to bond those to the pot. Growth has been great with her, I do think she is going to be a taller and lankier girl than the other 2. Hope with some cropping and LST I can slow her down a bit.




NL x Skunk is a shrubbery. That would make me a shrubber. Ah Monty Python, classic stuff. She is bonded but not ready to prune still. She is so compact and bushy even after removing a node off each arm. She should have a good growth spurt in the next few days and will be ready to prune for 4.



Now for the new discovery. Mazar x GWS might become the star of the show. She is a true 3 node girl, every node on her top and bottom arms is 3. If my instincts are right this is good for a mainline. Or is this bad and should I trim her down to 2 nodes? Seems like now she will grow 6 heads with only the one pruning so I think I should leave her like that. Let me know for sure guys, ok?



Showing the 3 nodes below the pruning


Peace
 

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aeviaanah

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Alright made some progress in the training today, and had a new discovery. The Black Russian is responding great to the topping and bonding. Her 2 new heads are starting to shoot up and soon I will be able to bond those to the pot. Growth has been great with her, I do think she is going to be a taller and lankier girl than the other 2. Hope with some cropping and LST I can slow her down a bit.




NL x Skunk is a shrubbery. That would make me a shrubber. Ah Monty Python, classic stuff. She is bonded but not ready to prune still. She is so compact and bushy even after removing a node off each arm. She should have a good growth spurt in the next few days and will be ready to prune for 4.



Now for the new discovery. Mazar x GWS might become the star of the show. She is a true 3 node girl, every node on her top and bottom arms is 3. If my instincts are right this is good for a mainline. Or is this bad and should I trim her down to 2 nodes? Seems like now she will grow 6 heads with only the one pruning so I think I should leave her like that. Let me know for sure guys, ok?



Showing the 3 nodes below the pruning


Peace
The three node is called a triploid, I think it's a desired trait and would allow each branch to grow. Just train it like you would any plant. I don't think that one will need as much pruning as the others.
 

DrOfWelshMagic

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hey Stone, I got one of them tri node bitches too, she is a clone from last grow, however her 'mother' was not tri-node'd 20130530_110104.jpgd80215aa-4bf3-4947-88db-c80c2d65c692.jpg I named her tripod pmsl.... I sure hope its a 'desired' trait.... Here are Tripods little uns and none of the clones have 3 nodes, Hmm??20130613_153934.jpg20130613_153848.jpg
 

KushCanuck

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The three node is called a triploid, I think it's a desired trait and would allow each branch to grow. Just train it like you would any plant. I don't think that one will need as much pruning as the others.
Couldn`t have said it better Aev. I will add that I probably wouldn`t push it higher than 12 though ... will have to spread a lot of love around. She could be your dirty dozen Stone ... ;). Can`t wait to find out, my Leader was triploid to begin and I pruned to two

KC :weed:
 

stoneslacker

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The three node is called a triploid, I think it's a desired trait and would allow each branch to grow. Just train it like you would any plant. I don't think that one will need as much pruning as the others.
Thanks aev. Definitely leaving her and training as usual, thanks for the input.


hey Stone, I got one of them tri node bitches too, she is a clone from last grow, however her 'mother' was not tri-node'd View attachment 2701609View attachment 2701608 I named her tripod pmsl.... I sure hope its a 'desired' trait.... Here are Tripods little uns and none of the clones have 3 nodes, Hmm??View attachment 2701612View attachment 2701610
Hey Dr. W, ya seems a recessive trait or something. The Maz x GWS didn't start out a triploid, but every side node she put out was triploid. Pretty cool in any case.


Couldn`t have said it better Aev. I will add that I probably wouldn`t push it higher than 12 though ... will have to spread a lot of love around. She could be your dirty dozen Stone ... ;). Can`t wait to find out, my Leader was triploid to begin and I pruned to two

KC :weed:
I couldn't agree with you more mate. I think I will leave her at 6 and consider it a bonus since I was only training to 4. :lol: I am debating taking the B. Russian to 8 tho. Flip-flopping right now, I'll make a decision soon.


Looking good stone! A triploid??? Is that rare or something?
Apparently not! Lol, I was just checking out yankees triploid hashberry thread. I'm definitely happy with her tho, looking forward to a 6-header.
 

stoneslacker

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They are all pruned for 4 (or 6 in Maz's case) and now just waiting on the heads to grow so I can bond them sideways. Hoping to add some clones to the mix but roots are not showing yet, so still wait and see.

Black Russian has taken to the training very well I think. Her 4 heads are shooting out quickly and she is far enough ahead of the others that I am contemplating pruning her for 8. I'll keep an eye on her and make a judgement call in the next week or so.




Maz x GWS is also taking to the training pretty well. She is growing nice and horizontal and her 3 heads are starting to shoot outward. I will keep her at 6 and see what happens.




NL x Skunk was pruned for 4 today and cleared of all other nodes. She is really thick in the middle section and has some fat "arms" already.


Edit: Group shot
 

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Chipper Pig

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Looking good stoney, i do like the look of maz and her 6 heads!!! All real healthy looking too. Keep up the great work mate.
 

yankeegreen

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Kudos so far stone, you're looking good. I am running a three node Hashberry clone right now and have been having some difficulty getting all six nodes to grow at the same rate. I have tried pinching, pruning and training but it has definitely been a bigger challenge than starting with a two node. It is not a true triploid (mum was not triploid) though so your results might differ but I would definitely mainlining all three - you can get to 12 nodes in just three rounds.

I have a Grapefruit cutting that also has three nodes that has had her initial topping. She is vegging for ML but is still a week or so away from the first round of topping and training.
 

KushCanuck

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Nice work thus far Stone. Leave them to gain growth here for about a week before you bond to container again, they`ll want some some foliage to support root growth here early on. Glad I get to follow with ya mate :D

KC :weed:
 

stoneslacker

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Looking good stoney, i do like the look of maz and her 6 heads!!! All real healthy looking too. Keep up the great work mate.
Hey thanks Chipper. I'm looking forward to seeing the Maz girl start to develop those 6 heads. Gonna have fairly diverse mainline experience here!


Everyone looks healthy and happy as can be. Looks like you're taking to ML like a pro! Keep up the good work bro.
Thanks SS! All 3 have been very light feeders so far, and have responded well to my backing down the nutes after their first tip burn. Definitely pretty cool watching a mainline plant develop, and I'm only just scratching the surface. Hoping things keep progressing this smoothly and watching these girls put on a good show.


Kudos so far stone, you're looking good. I am running a three node Hashberry clone right now and have been having some difficulty getting all six nodes to grow at the same rate. I have tried pinching, pruning and training but it has definitely been a bigger challenge than starting with a two node. It is not a true triploid (mum was not triploid) though so your results might differ but I would definitely mainlining all three - you can get to 12 nodes in just three rounds.

I have a Grapefruit cutting that also has three nodes that has had her initial topping. She is vegging for ML but is still a week or so away from the first round of topping and training.
Soon as I seen she was a triploid, I was heading over to your journal yankee. I think I will stop at 6 with her though, I would like to start flower by the first week of July hopefully. Thanks for the input mate!


Nice work thus far Stone. Leave them to gain growth here for about a week before you bond to container again, they`ll want some some foliage to support root growth here early on. Glad I get to follow with ya mate :D

KC :weed:
Thanks KC! I am going to let them get a good, unmolested growth period in here before I start bonding the heads. Was hoping to flip by July 1st, but looking like I might have to extend veg into July a bit more. I'm the one who's glad you get to follow along mate, probably wouldn't have even considered a mainline had you not stumbled upon my thread several months back. Thanks again for all your help bro.
 

yankeegreen

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Hey thanks Chipper. I'm looking forward to seeing the Maz girl start to develop those 6 heads. Gonna have fairly diverse mainline experience here!



Thanks SS! All 3 have been very light feeders so far, and have responded well to my backing down the nutes after their first tip burn. Definitely pretty cool watching a mainline plant develop, and I'm only just scratching the surface. Hoping things keep progressing this smoothly and watching these girls put on a good show.



Soon as I seen she was a triploid, I was heading over to your journal yankee. I think I will stop at 6 with her though, I would like to start flower by the first week of July hopefully. Thanks for the input mate!



Thanks KC! I am going to let them get a good, unmolested growth period in here before I start bonding the heads. Was hoping to flip by July 1st, but looking like I might have to extend veg into July a bit more. I'm the one who's glad you get to follow along mate, probably wouldn't have even considered a mainline had you not stumbled upon my thread several months back. Thanks again for all your help bro.

I think we may have been in the same time-warp - I thought I had updated that Hashberry thread as well! Anyway, here is what she currently looks like - hope you don't mind the pics for reference. Never did get the smaller node to catch up to the other two.

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