Pure psychedelic sativa 12/12 from seed 150W HPS grow

[simisimis]

evening guys, ofc for most of u that doesn't apply since we're like on 7 hours difference, anyway, all those naive thoughts that zamal will not stretch.. well let's just forget about them... she's maaad. still showing preflowers only and she's almost fully forming swastica shape.. well i still got her like 20" but i miss those days when she had short internodes.. it is so easy to train her. bended, tied, formed without any trouble. the lights went off so will show some pics tmr. also im a bit worried, 4 days since leaching her and soil is still soaked, one cola started showing what i suspect overwatering symptoms.. will see tomorrow morning. anyway, enjoy ur friday!

 

[simisimis]

Update... big time! 6 weeks into flowering.
This time will be a bit more photos. Yeah been posting a lot of pics lately, but here are some more. First of all, as always Zamaldelica.. gosh I like this name.. Sounds so.. delicate haha.
Yesterday morning trained her, this morning she's looking really good. Except one little overwatering thing. I think that it's overwatering, cause temps been good lately, RH ~50-55%, and soil surface is still completely wet. Anyway, you can see those symptoms on those 2 colas tops only, the rest of the plant looks amazing. I checked in the journal her pictures 10days ago and gosh she changed Also she is having very thin stems.. I cant imagine her holding anything else except the fan leaves.. But maybe it will get fatter as she will start forming buds. Today I've spent like 1.5 hour of just being in that room. Can't get enough of those beauties Also most of the shoots were already above the top cage, after training you can see that they wend back quite a bit. So here are some pics of Zamal, and then will continue about Destroyer.

Leaves and those thin stems


Now here are some training


And here is happy and not so happy tops.



Destroyer.
This is one helluva lady.. Her bud sites starts almost at the very base of the plant and proceeds up to the top every 1-2 inches. Is loaded with leaves and stigmas.. Although she's packed like indica, the skinny and long leave blades does not leave any doubt about her being sativa strain. Roots are already coming out of the bottom of the pot, I am so curious how microkote is doing its job there and how the roots will look on the harvest day There's also so many 3 budsites instead of 2 on the nodes. Leaves are green all the way down to the ground, so far no deficiencies, Cool..
here, have a peak at her

 

[sadface]

girls are filling out! very nice

 

[MrEDuck]

They look good! Nice job training them to fit a small space.

 

[simisimis]

They look good! Nice job training them to fit a small space.

Yeah this strain was very into training.. That cage helped a million, almost like vertical scrogging lol. I'm just worried about those long and thin stems. My potassium silicate will come next week, hopefully this will make them at least a bit thicker. Also I wich I could let Zamal already start climbing up, but it does not have bud sites yet, so better be safe than sorry..

 

[simisimis]

ha i found this on other riu thread about destroyer -

I am growing this strain and it's about 7 weeks into flowering. It definitely needs 12 weeks but because I do perpetual harvests with many different strains this does not bother me. It is extremely bushy with literally hundreds of bud sites. I'm still only seeing white hairs (no girth to buds whatsoever). I'll post some pics for you all to see. Peace

cause i was already starting to think that they sent me the wrong bean lol

 

[b.real]

Looks great. What light you running?

 

[simisimis]

i bought 150w hps on my previous grow, and made diy reflector to hold 6 cfls plus 1 hps. but later Kite told me about CMH and CDM lamps, wince my magnetic hps/mh ballast supports cmh and cdm, i bought 150w cmh bulb. my god that was a bargain. the lamp produces 3000K colour, plants appreciate it way more, my camera as well for now i use only 2x 25w additional cfls, but when the plant will get bigger ill add 2 more for side lighting..

 

[b.real]

how do the temps stay ok, especially so close to the lights?

 

[simisimis]

its colder outside now. around 18C, so inside with doors open temps are 26C at the very top with a fan blowing on them, but when it was 28C outside, inside it was ~30C, with a max of 32C. sorry for Celsius, im on a phone, a bit inconvenient to convert. i would not say 150hps produce that much more heat comparing to 150w of 25watters i had..

btw just checked on the girls overwatering seems to go away, those 2 tops got better, also i think zamal started making bud sites, soon i might not need to train her anymore

 

[b.real]

thanks man! yeah, im running ~90f (which is about 32c) at canopy, but im not really sure its hurting anything. if it is hurting resin content, i might switch to 150 watts of cfl, but youre saying theyre just as hot?

 

[simisimis]

at least for me it went few degrees up, but only like 2-4.. difficult to say, cause i was using cfls in wintertime and i got hps somewhere on february.. altgough it was quite cold until april. also at first i was using 150w cfl and growing one plant, on hps grow i was also using additional 100w of cfls and growing two strains in total, but if you already have like 90F its a bit risky. on mel franks book author wrote about studies when weed potency from the same strains were way bigger when temps were 70-80, on 90F weed potency of some strains were way less potent, on some only few percents.. you should get someone else to confirm on this..

 

[simisimis]

Good day dear readers and subscribers. Hope you're doing fine. Today I started googling more about my strains and what to expect from them but I finally got anxious about my lack of understanding about the phenos.. Really, tried googling, or seeing two two same looking pictures which had a comment that one has pheno of thai and another of african, like e.g. here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=232614
I just do not get it, how can e.g. I can look at my plants and tell what phenos do they have? Any tips would be greatly appreciated of how you do that guys..
Thanks!

 

[james2500]

good morning simi.......went to that link...looks like the same effing plant huh? i have 2 liberty haze from barney's farm and they are def 2 pheno's i can tell because the structure of the plants and even the leaf shapes are very different, myself i prefer my strains being stable so no surprises. i'll take some pix here to share.

 

[simisimis]

good morning simi.......went to that link...looks like the same effing plant huh? i have 2 liberty haze from barney's farm and they are def 2 pheno's i can tell because the structure of the plants and even the leaf shapes are very different, myself i prefer my strains being stable so no surprises. i'll take some pix here to share.

oh ok, so I'm not going crazy lol, I though they see something different than I do. Maybe there's something very small like more wax looking leaves or something..
Yeah sure post some, I'd love to check 'em out

 

[james2500]

well here we are then, night and day

 

[simisimis]

well here we are then, night and day
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Yes indeed, I see what you mean man, thanks btw those are helluva beauties

 

[james2500]

thanks, mh for now, gonna switch to hps today and flower these bitches

 

[simisimis]

Morning!
So looks like stretching for Zamal is over. In few days it gained quite little height I'd say, however she is nicely filling up the cage space with side branches. Today I finally got my potassium silicate. Cant wait to start applying it and see if there will be any noticeable difference Although I'm not sure if I'm not too late with it. Also I'll be able to water only Destroyer, cause almost a week passed since leaching Zamal, however she is still incredibly wet from top to bottom. A good thing that she does not show any overwatering signs. Well a bit on one cola, but the rest 3 are doing fine, so are side branches.

Destroyer looks incredible. Quite small, stem looks very nice and whole cage is filled with leaves and buds. Started to fill in those budsites. Holy hairiness...
Ok enough talking. lets Troll It Up this thread with some pictures.

Zamaldelica




Destroyer:

 

[KangarooBunny]

You've got it, man. Those are some nice plants!

I'm definitely thinking about the cages. Looks so simple to train like that. Was the material you used intentional because of the coating on it?