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Doer

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You can get probation for manslaughter.

Listening to the "common sense" prosecution rebuttal....Very Powerful.
 
Hazydat620

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NoDrama said:
I hate safeties, so much so that most of the firearms I own do not have external safeties. Never experienced an unintended shot in 40 years of shooting.

the best safety there is is the one where you don't put your finger on the trigger.

Kel Tecs DO HAVE SAFETIES though, they are built into the trigger, as are many revolvers. An old Colt SAA had no safety at all, which is why you would never carry 6 rounds in your 6 shooter, but instead leave the hammer down on an empty chamber.

The fact that UB and others think that an external safety is what saves people from being killed only tells those of us in the know that those people don't know jack squat about the subject.

Depending on a external safety only keeps you from practicing disciplined firearm operations, in effect it makes you lazy about gun safety.

UB and the others wouldn't know an external safety from a de-cocker to a fire selector.
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LOL, your a arrogant fuck aren't you? I own a Sig pro with a .40 barrel, my brother owns a Springfield XD45, and a M4 AR. I think I know the difference. It's nice to know that you think the branches of US military are lazy in they're safety training of their firearms, or maybe also the REAL police, who also add a thumb strap to the mix, pffft lazy bitches.
 
desert dude

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Prosecution did a good job of tugging at heart strings. That might be effective on an all woman jury, at least more effective than on males.

I am guessing we won't see a verdict till Monday. Still going with hung jury.

<edit> not guilty on murder 2, hung jury on manslaughter is my prediction.
 
desert dude

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NoDrama said:
Manslaughter, that's the one where the defendant goes home after the trial?
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Not in this case. According to an analyst I listened to, a manslaughter conviction here could carry a life sentence. If Z is convicted of MS, he is going to prison with a heavy sentence.
 
SirGreenThumb

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desert dude said:
Prosecution did a good job of tugging at heart strings. That might be effective on an all woman jury, at least more effective than on males.

I am guessing we won't see a verdict till Monday. Still going with hung jury.

<edit> not guilty on murder 2, hung jury on manslaughter is my prediction.
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I had a thought. I remember at the beginning of the trial, all the women were gushing over how cute John guy was. I wonder if that will have an impact on this "all women" jury? It seems to make sense that they used him as the final closer.
 
SirGreenThumb

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I still think there will be a hung jury. But if they do reach a not guilty verdict, I hope all the store owners have armed themselves for the upcoming riots and looting.
 
DonPepe

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SirGreenThumb said:
I still think there will be a hung jury. But if they do reach a not guilty verdict, I hope all the store owners have armed themselves for the upcoming riots and looting.
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remember Casey Anthony? Exactly.... 95% of America had forgotten her name by the next week and not a single riot....... Imagine if Zim had locked a 3 year old TM in a trunk for 3 weeks and went on an alcohol and sex binge, then threw the body in a swamp somewhere......

PS: how would looting help TM or his family with this tragedy, or Zim and his family for that matter? I can understand riots over anger and frustration, but why looting?
 
SirGreenThumb

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DonPepe said:
remember Casey Anthony? Exactly.... 95% of America had forgotten her name by the next week and not a single riot....... Imagine if Zim had locked a 3 year old TM in a trunk for 3 weeks and went on an alcohol and sex binge, then threw the body in a swamp somewhere......
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This is a whole different situation. They have already said they are going to riot and go looting. Its all over twitter. If he goes free, there will be riots and there will be looting.
 
desert dude

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DonPepe said:
remember Casey Anthony? Exactly.... 95% of America had forgotten her name by the next week and not a single riot....... Imagine if Zim had locked a 3 year old TM in a trunk for 3 weeks and went on an alcohol and sex binge, then threw the body in a swamp somewhere......
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I don't understand your analogy. Are you saying that because there were no riots when Anthony was acquitted there will be no riots if Zimmerman is acquitted?
 
Doer

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So, what does this mumbo-jumbo mean?
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/national/document-instructions-george-zimmerman-jury/nYnqZ/

JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE
The killing of a human being is justifiable and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman

EXCUSABLE HOMICIDE
3. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the attempted killing is not done in a cruel and unusual manner.

So, it is excusable only if there was no "dangerous weapon?" Yet it is justifiable, regardless of the weapon?

So, in both 2nd and 3rd Murder, it seems to be the difference, (a slim difference, here,) between sudden combat vs attempt to murder.

I say then, sudden combat with a dangerous weapon used to end it is not a justified nor excusable killing and therefore un-lawful.




Andrea Sniderman looks like a real nut and that trial is up next. :)
 
desert dude

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Doer said:
So, what does this mumbo-jumbo mean?
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/national/document-instructions-george-zimmerman-jury/nYnqZ/

JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE
The killing of a human being is justifiable and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman

EXCUSABLE HOMICIDE
3. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the attempted killing is not done in a cruel and unusual manner.

So, it is excusable only if there was no "dangerous weapon?" Yet it is justifiable, regardless of the weapon?

So, in both 2nd and 3rd Murder, it seems to be the difference, (a slim difference, here,) between sudden combat vs attempt to murder.

I say then, sudden combat with a dangerous weapon used to end it is not a justified nor excusable killing and therefore un-lawful.




Andrea Sniderman looks like a real nut and that trial is up next. :)
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No, thanks. No more trials for me. I have no idea who Sniderman is and I do not want to know.
 
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