londonfog
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She said he hit and pushed her..His cousin said he molested her..the police officer said he pushed him...Yup a lot of "he said and she said"
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Doer
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You know. And I ain't fussing with you. Too big.
Look. It is a wide world and I firmly believe we cannot get a real picture of ourselves. That is, how we seem to others. So the more I try to be the ghost in the machine for the other guy, just for a second, the better I can see myself.
I started by casting myself back in history. Really contemplating, no phone, no lights, no motor cars, like that..
Just a mental hobby at first. It is actual empathy.
So, talking to my 85 year old dad about the trial, is a trial.
But, he looked after me, so I hang in there. He is totally Zim "should" walk.I was able to get it around to empathy. And after a while it was me dead, unarmed, and some jerk came in the back and gunned me down.
And at that age, I was surely worse than Trevon. So, those facts also had to be chewed in.
In the end, he admitted he would be demanding a trial from the DA, and pulling in the Feds thru his Air Force rank. And my dad is one stiff prick in a Chief Master Sgt, sense. I just reminded him of some of the more simple horrors he has managed on authority figures for much less than gunning down his boy.
Have some empathy. My Dad did. Good for us.
BadDog40
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Yea ok. Lets execute every kid who you label as having 'low moral standards'.
Doer
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Well, I couldn't say about that, but it sure looks like you finished off the pizza.*barrel. cn
Red1966
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Nearly all, if not all, his points are hollow, and he restates all of them over and over. I guess he figure the last one to post "wins" his pathetic little game.
Bretz
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I'm pretty sure Jessie's got some negative race issues.Is Al giving Eric a "helping hand" here? Maybe a little congratulatory squeeze for a job well done? Jesse is just hanging back waiting for his share of the loot.
londonfog
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That's what I thought. You don't realize what a thug is.
cologrower
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I feel that. TM was no saint for sure. But the cops should have dealt with him. GZ killed a 17 1/2 yr old stupid kid. Can't do that. He found trouble and won. Unfortunately I can't have what I want. Either he walks or doesn't. Parents of TM are great. I understand the anger or whatever that is. I'm no Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi fan.
Impman
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I have empathy for Treyvon. I had some wild times as a teen and my dad has bailed me out of trouble. I understand fighting and trying to be tough as a teen. TM made mistakes like I did. I got lucky not getting into more serious trouble. TM did not get lucky. You can't ignore evidence though. Z should walk because the law is the law. In florida you can have a weapon and you can use it for defense. Z was not going to die. He was going to get beat up and knocked unconscious or just beat up. Z, having never been beat up was scarred shitless like most would be in that situation. getting you ass kicked for the first time is pretty scary, or any time.
unfortunately some D-bad cop friend of Z told him to get a gun and be prepared to use it. He should have got a can of mace or a taser. WTF happen to mace and tasers???
Anyways, in spite of Empathy, TM was acting sketch. Anyone acting sketch around my neighbors is gonna get the cops called. If that person ran from me and tried to hide I would go see whats up and which house he went to. This is my neighborhood, and I know who lives around here. I don't need or like guns. Z felt more secure with a gun. Secure enough with his gun to keep an eye on his neighborhood. Just like I would do without one. That is Florida law. Maybe without the law Z would not have the balls to check out the suspect, maybe he would. TM clearly attacked him. TM did not go home, he wanted to fight. He attacked a weeny of a man. He attacked a man that had never been attacked like that before. He attacked an armed, soft little man. TM, having been in fights, used any trick he has learned and he fought with the sense of urgency you need to WIN fights. Soft, Zimmerman got to his gun and used it. And it is his LEGAL RIGHT to use it in self defense. the evidence does not lie
unfortunately some D-bad cop friend of Z told him to get a gun and be prepared to use it. He should have got a can of mace or a taser. WTF happen to mace and tasers???
Anyways, in spite of Empathy, TM was acting sketch. Anyone acting sketch around my neighbors is gonna get the cops called. If that person ran from me and tried to hide I would go see whats up and which house he went to. This is my neighborhood, and I know who lives around here. I don't need or like guns. Z felt more secure with a gun. Secure enough with his gun to keep an eye on his neighborhood. Just like I would do without one. That is Florida law. Maybe without the law Z would not have the balls to check out the suspect, maybe he would. TM clearly attacked him. TM did not go home, he wanted to fight. He attacked a weeny of a man. He attacked a man that had never been attacked like that before. He attacked an armed, soft little man. TM, having been in fights, used any trick he has learned and he fought with the sense of urgency you need to WIN fights. Soft, Zimmerman got to his gun and used it. And it is his LEGAL RIGHT to use it in self defense. the evidence does not lie
A bit late here. I CCW all the time with my little J-Frame S&W Bodygaurd titanium airweight. I often DO forget its there, once you break in a custom waistband holster, its barely noticeable. I believe that Kahr he was carrying was a mousegun at .380 cal (9mm short) so its a bit thinner than my rig and even less noticeable. So he saying he forgot he had it is totally believable. Its like having a pocket knife and living in the city, you use the knife so rarely that when time comes and you need it, you forget you have it.
cologrower
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LOL...17 year old kids think about that stuff.
Impman
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I am not looking for trouble, but If i see someone aimlessly milling around my neighborhood in the rain, Im calling the cops and asking you what you are doing. If you run after you see me driving toward you , following you ,then Im gonna go see where you went. . Thats because I don't want my home or my neighbors home's robbed.
Red1966
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We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Sorry, I prefer to be an individual
Impman
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Sure they think about it. But I guess it is family to family as far as naked girls on the phone and stealing jewelry. When I was 17 I was playing sports and I had to have a job. No work, then no sports. My parents were strict I guess.
Impman
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Whats a thug?
cologrower
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I feel that Zimmerman needs to pay. I understand this thinking though. Florida stand your ground is what it is. You can't kill a kid. Hurt him or mame him, fine. LOL TM was a bad dude and GZ was looking for trouble not stand his ground.
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Red1966
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" Never heard of a case in which the defendeant pleas self defense but yet will not take the stand " Really? Because its pretty common. Regardless, the prosecution stupidly brought in all Zimmerman's public statements, so Zimmerman in effect did get to testify, but without the prosecution being able to cross.
Impman
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Sweet, you are the first to agree with me on that. TM was a bad kid and GZ was a weeny looking to use a gun
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