prosperian
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Some really nice colas in the room right now slip. I'm used to seeing the canopy flat top, but like you said, this one's different. Probably some real nice weight ahead of you.
Fist LED grow
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mycomaster
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All the ladies look really nice Slipon. I think you're right about your plants bro, they prolly are a little more sativa dom. The way they're shooting out such long pistils is a sativa trait, along with the heat being a touch high might be a combination of why they're not swelling like usual. I know when it's hot a flower won't get as dense in fear it won't be able to cool itself. That's why I run my a/c so dang much trying to keep it as cool as possible. Today is suppose to be another day in the 90's, I can live without this crap. They say there's no global warming, like we're all idiots and don't go outside or can't read a thermometer. Anyways, The girls in veg look great bro, keep it up. Enjoy your day Slip, Peace out.
Slipon
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yea I guess your right too, might become a "summer" harvest even tho I have LEDs, thanks God I have 3 nice size plants going so yield for personal smoke should be home, cant belive I had em under one LED fixture to begin with, Ooh well lets see, next branch look promising, looking forward to see how the Mlining plant do and the FIM plant in the big 7 gallon pot just look like a really nice Pheno and they will have plenty of light 
Slipon
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yea your right, but also decided just to let em go this time to see how the LED preformed, as they did grow pretty dense lower Bud`s on my last run, still do, but a different way, lets see how my next run go, have high hopes for it, really mature small bushes with a LED light each
EDIT: think I will start em out under my new fixture with more blue in it for the stretch (first 2-3 weeks) once they out grow em my other two plants should be finish and they can grow in under the other with more Red if that make any sense ?
prosperian
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Rainbow of colors for your babies. Whatever works. Do you remember those single bulb lights that were used during Christmas time. They had a transparent colored flat disc in front of the bulb. The disc turned to change the color that was blasted onto the tree. That just popped into my head, worthless info, but good memories from being a kid at Christmas!yea your right, but also decided just to let em go this time to see how the LED preformed, as they did grow pretty dense lower Bud`s on my last run, still do, but a different way, lets see how my next run go, have high hopes for it, really mature small bushes with a LED light each
EDIT: think I will start em out under my new fixture with more blue in it for the stretch (first 2-3 weeks) once they out grow em my other two plants should be finish and they can grow in under the other with more Red if that make any sense ?
Slipon
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day 39 and 33
begin to see calyx swelling, finally, but seems like the big plant is behind, or said in another way, its about as fare in as the other two that are at day 33, guess them days in the start with minor PH issues have set it back a bit, but atleast it look better now, guess the next week will decide my yield
begin to see calyx swelling, finally, but seems like the big plant is behind, or said in another way, its about as fare in as the other two that are at day 33, guess them days in the start with minor PH issues have set it back a bit, but atleast it look better now, guess the next week will decide my yield
Slipon
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just stole this from somebody who stole it from somebody els:
Just stole this little bit of info from the web...
Calyx swelling is a major indicator of peak maturity. The lowest, oldest calyxes swell first and the swelling works its way up to the highest, youngest flowers on each bud. At peak maturity about 90% of the calyxes will almost look seeded, they are so fat.
Three quarters to 90% of the pistils will have turned reddish brown as well. For a basic Indica this takes well into the seventh week of the flowering cycle.
By the end of the eighth week most of the calyxes will have swollen and a surge of trichome development has coated most of the buds. It is now that the development of a very discerning palate comes into play to determine the finest harvest time. Remember - patience is a virtue and often a discipline.
The ripening signs for most Sativas are highly similar, except extended over a longer period of time. Occasionally, some Sativas have windows of peak harvest that actually open and close. That is, for a week or so the plant may exhibit signs of peak ripeness.
However, a week later the plant may have a growth spurt, which lowers the trichome-to-fibre ratio and overall potency for a little while. Usually a fibrous growth spurt is accompanied by a corresponding trichome increase. Again, time and experience are the key elements in this regard.
Calyx swelling is a major indicator of peak maturity. The lowest, oldest calyxes swell first and the swelling works its way up to the highest, youngest flowers on each bud. At peak maturity about 90% of the calyxes will almost look seeded, they are so fat.
Three quarters to 90% of the pistils will have turned reddish brown as well. For a basic Indica this takes well into the seventh week of the flowering cycle.
By the end of the eighth week most of the calyxes will have swollen and a surge of trichome development has coated most of the buds. It is now that the development of a very discerning palate comes into play to determine the finest harvest time. Remember - patience is a virtue and often a discipline.
The ripening signs for most Sativas are highly similar, except extended over a longer period of time. Occasionally, some Sativas have windows of peak harvest that actually open and close. That is, for a week or so the plant may exhibit signs of peak ripeness.
However, a week later the plant may have a growth spurt, which lowers the trichome-to-fibre ratio and overall potency for a little while. Usually a fibrous growth spurt is accompanied by a corresponding trichome increase. Again, time and experience are the key elements in this regard.
mycomaster
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That's a happy group of women you got there. I have to agree with your post bro, when the calyx's are swelling it's time to get ready for a harvest. The pistils will recede into the calyx after turning orange or brown or whatever color, and at that point the calyx's will swell quite a bit looking almost seeded sometimes. It's really cool if you take a pic at the same spot on the same flower everyday, you can watch the progression on your computer flipping through the pics. For having a ph issue she sure looks good, and the rest are plumping up like mad, IDK what you're complaining about man. By the looks of them they're not lacking density, or vigor. I can't believe you don't have a ph or ec pen, and you get results like that from a hempy bucket, I'd +rep you if it would let me bro 
. If I did hydro nutes I would be all over the hempy buckets, but I'm spoiled on the soil. I hope you're enjoying your holiday, Peace out.
. If I did hydro nutes I would be all over the hempy buckets, but I'm spoiled on the soil. I hope you're enjoying your holiday, Peace out.
Slipon
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lol well guess I just feel the best when I have sumthing to nag about, and yea the PH issue was also minor, just a bit to much lime on one top dressing gave me a handful of curling top leave`s but after 2-3 watering it was back on track, and I must say the hempy Bud`s look beautiful, no clawing sugar leaves at all just some very compact looking Buds with fat clear white pistils and all covered in trich`s might even be the first to finish, tho I have seen more oranges pistils on the big plant over the last 2-3 days, clone also look to take on some good weight here at week 5+ might yield more then first expected
also, not sumthing I normaly do, but since I have a bit of space to play with I did turn the plants around to day to give some more light to the spots that have`t got to much so fare, had to rearrange the intake ducting a bit anyway and use the opportunity to do a light pruning to remove old/yellow/brown leave`s as I really have`t done much to the plant`s this run, wanted to see what the LEDs could do if I just let the plant go natural, and I was`t impressed with the de-leaving last grow either and also wanted to avoid any hermis this time as it seem`s like my strain is prone to hermi under even light stress
also, not sumthing I normaly do, but since I have a bit of space to play with I did turn the plants around to day to give some more light to the spots that have`t got to much so fare, had to rearrange the intake ducting a bit anyway and use the opportunity to do a light pruning to remove old/yellow/brown leave`s as I really have`t done much to the plant`s this run, wanted to see what the LEDs could do if I just let the plant go natural, and I was`t impressed with the de-leaving last grow either and also wanted to avoid any hermis this time as it seem`s like my strain is prone to hermi under even light stress
Slipon
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yea Im happy with me T5HOs, they do the job just fine, tho the power and heat would be perfect to get rite of at one point, lets see
the LEDs also rock`s all 3W and a good amount of white`s in em, mostly 6500K but also some 2700K and a majority of Red/fare red/inferred, customized one of them myself with flowering in mind with just about 10-20% "blue" and for sure gave me old 600W HPS a run for its money, new fixture don't have the same double lenses in em and according to my light meter just trow out half the light, but do the job as I just needed a "cheap" fix to cover a sq. ft. or so more and it also run about 100W less
Im happy with em, just not use to this string going for this long, but if it do as normal from now on and bulk up it will for sure yield nicely
the LEDs also rock`s all 3W and a good amount of white`s in em, mostly 6500K but also some 2700K and a majority of Red/fare red/inferred, customized one of them myself with flowering in mind with just about 10-20% "blue" and for sure gave me old 600W HPS a run for its money, new fixture don't have the same double lenses in em and according to my light meter just trow out half the light, but do the job as I just needed a "cheap" fix to cover a sq. ft. or so more and it also run about 100W less
Im happy with em, just not use to this string going for this long, but if it do as normal from now on and bulk up it will for sure yield nicely
mycomaster
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I think your girls will like the rotation, and should reward you for the attention. You always seem to have a plan worked out, and you always seem to have a degree of .success even when things don't work out as planned. You have a very good understanding of plant biology it seems, and you put it to good use for sure. I don'y blame you for leaving the girls alone, I would want to see what I could get by going as simple as possible as well, you wouldn't know where you could go from there if you don't really. I like to see what a plant will do on her own before pushing her, and ending up with problems. You know your strain pretty well, and know not to mess with her too much or she has herm tendencies, only a moron is gonna chop on her, and turn his plant hermie on himself. Alot of people love Trainwreck, my buddy grew her, and found out why I won't. It hermed on him like all get out, and he was just do what I would consider a light trim, but it was in mid to late flower. He was just working on a air circulation problem cause the plant flops everywhere, and it hermed on him in less than 3 days. A real waste too cause they all looked so nice. He smoked some flowers from somebody who happened to have a successful grow, and got enchanted by the effect. Later on I found a herm flower in the bag he got from the guy, and a couple of immature seeds. I hate to say I told you so, but that's how it goes sometimes with hard headed people. I don't even like the buzz that much, I feel it's kind of flat, and unmotivating for what it is or suppose to be. I told him to get Qrazy Train from T.G.A. seeds, but what do I know. ha Ha. Anyways I just try to keep my plants clean ,and leave the leafs to do their business in flower, I'll go a little heavier on them in veg, but you can't make em herm then only die. LOL. Take it easy bro, the girls look great. Peace out.
prosperian
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I have a switch on my LED that changes color, ha, ha!
I was only gone a couple days and had a lot to read to catch up. You guys got me worried about hermies now. Never even thought about it on my last grow! Better not happen or I will blame you guys!
So, to finish the conversation on my thread, do you think two plants on my next grow could yield close to my four? I pulled 2.25 oz. per plant last time. I agree man, if I can simplify things with less pots, I'm thinking that's the way to go, ya know?
Slipon
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I have a switch on my LED that changes color, ha, ha!
I was only gone a couple days and had a lot to read to catch up. You guys got me worried about hermies now. Never even thought about it on my last grow! Better not happen or I will blame you guys!
So, to finish the conversation on my thread, do you think two plants on my next grow could yield close to my four? I pulled 2.25 oz. per plant last time. I agree man, if I can simplify things with less pots, I'm thinking that's the way to go, ya know?
did`t you notice yet ? thats what all of us have been doing uptil now, giving you advice that will lead to hermis, we just want you to get lots of free seed`s
just treat em like babies in flowering, and first few weeks look out for "ball`s" at the lower (3-6) nod`s, also more easy when you don't have dense growth down there that also can block fresh air and never will get any real light, specially now with LED`s (I could easily see a nice 1 or two plant scrog in your closed with a long veg time spreading out the plant and switching to 12/12 when 2/3 of the screen is filled (all of the center)
one hugh sativa in a 10 gallon pot or water farm with 10 week`s of Veg could easily break records in yield, atlest your record 4-8 oz is quite possible if you got the genetic, time and skills
prosperian
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Sounds good. Just keeping them green until I can smoke 'em.
Slipon
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yea keep em green keep em happy, once they are that dont changes to much, let em do there thing
p.s.
about my "new" light, found that it do make the plant produce more trichomes, might be the more blue light and higher inferred ?
so Im considering to finish my plant`s under them for the last week or two and use my old stronger light with more red doing the first part of flowering, tho I bet the "new" fixture also would work great the first two weeks as well, to limit the stretch even more, have to get a schedule going in there
p.s.
about my "new" light, found that it do make the plant produce more trichomes, might be the more blue light and higher inferred ?
so Im considering to finish my plant`s under them for the last week or two and use my old stronger light with more red doing the first part of flowering, tho I bet the "new" fixture also would work great the first two weeks as well, to limit the stretch even more, have to get a schedule going in there
prosperian
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Yeah, it will be fun to tweak these new panels. I bought some 24" cfls for the lower part of the closet. Plants are just too bushy from the LST-ing to get down far enough and I really don't want to trim lower fans unless the plant yellows them and no longer needs the energy from that source.
Keep up the good work. I'm liking our new social site. We got a ton of views in less than 24 hours! https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/695732-other-side-fence-where-grass.html
Keep up the good work. I'm liking our new social site. We got a ton of views in less than 24 hours! https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/695732-other-side-fence-where-grass.html
mycomaster
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Killer info Slipon. you should post pics of your light again, and a short description. I know it's a real pain in the ass, but that really is significant, and if people don't now about the infra-red's and such pushing better trich production it would be quite the revelation to them. Maybe something you would consider putting up on the other thread for people to read about.(The other side of the fence) I know that just clenched the l.E.D. vote for me! Peace out bro, really good to hear about the trichomes!
Slipon
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just a quick picture update so the thread don't die out completely and people begin to think you cant grow dank under LEDs
day 51
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had temperatures around 30C as the heat wave hit us, a bit more then I like, and my plant`s but nothing major, plan to cut em on saturday (4 day`s from now) as it suit my calendar and it might also be the hottest day so fare, next day the temps should drop a bit, so I can begin to flower the next two
day 51
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had temperatures around 30C as the heat wave hit us, a bit more then I like, and my plant`s but nothing major, plan to cut em on saturday (4 day`s from now) as it suit my calendar
and it might also be the hottest day so fare, next day the temps should drop a bit, so I can begin to flower the next two