McDonald's Guide to Living on Minimum Wage

[Samwell Seed Well]

Anyone with a bit of sense understands that forced minimum wage is bad. People should be paid for the worth of their services. If your service is worth $5/hr, then that is what you should be paid. Likewise $50/hr.

When you force a minimum wage, you then force employers to pass on the costs of paying people more than their services might be worth. The increased costs then end up hurting the very people they are supposed to help. Its all very basic economics.

socialism and communism look good on paper too just like democracy . . strange how what seems plausible seems to fail so miserably after the human factor gets a hold of it and then all you have is one rich mans wet dream

and the whole pay a person what there job is worth is moot as the , context of that judgement is money and money is an imaginary

tool, not relative to the value of a person work. As that is in the eye of the beholder and who judges what work is worth what? the

richest men making the most, or someone else with some arbitrary reason that will fit one facet of life but not others . . . .

well i ask you this if you intend to limit min wage by the value of a job, then their should also be caps on the most one can make,

which would never work as it currently doesn't fit into our business models at all . . .

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Who gives a rat's ass what McDonalds puts out as a budget for their employees? They're paying minimum wage, as is their legal right. Work for them or don't work for them, follow their budget or don't, what the fuck difference does it make? The minimum wage is the minimum wage until it's not. Got a beef, call your Senator and Congressman. I don't turn to McDonalds for financial planning, I go to them for heavenly fast food (especially the McRib), and neither should their employees.

The OP put this out like it's a condemnation of some sort and it's a miserable failure. Nobody with an ounce of sense would invest any time on this, it's a burger joint.

 

[cancer survivor]

life is what you make of it! my life is great. because i made a life plan and stuck with it. if you work for a boss you can never earn to your full potential. people are generally lazy and weak and afraid to take chances. not me i live every day like it is my last day. if you knew you were gonna die in 3 months ya wont be working at mc'dees. well guess what we are all going to die one day,some sooner than others. so step up and get whats yours. be a Pirate like me aarrrgghhh!

 

[Julius Caesar]

Anyone with a bit of sense understands that forced minimum wage is bad. People should be paid for the worth of their services. If your service is worth $5/hr, then that is what you should be paid. Likewise $50/hr.

When you force a minimum wage, you then force employers to pass on the costs of paying people more than their services might be worth. The increased costs then end up hurting the very people they are supposed to help. Its all very basic economics.

About 5 years ago I would have agreed with you. Sometimes you gotta be down before you realize how far down that can be. It is not basic economics. There is no mathematical equation for greed or other human emotions which enter into the result of your idealized capitalist system. Some people will play fairly. Others will fuck you in the ass without the common courtesy of a reach around. Do you really want to sit here and argue that all CEOs deserve the absolute grotesque salaries they are receiving (I will not use the word earned)? Are they worth 343x that of a laborer? Hell, even a black man was considered 3/5th of a white man during slavery. It amazes me when some of you folks claim that everyone will be paying more for products if we have to pay the workers more yet no one expects these CEOs to take a pay cut or perhaps share the wealth with their employees.

If poor folks had lobbyist we wouldn't be having this conversation.

In 1980, CEOs at the largest companies received 42 times the pay of the average worker, according to the union. In 2000 the gap hit a high, with CEOs making 525 times the average worker. In 2010, the gap narrowed, with CEOs making 343 times the average worker.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/19/news/economy/ceo-pay/index.htm

 

[UncleBuck]

Who gives a rat's ass what McDonalds puts out as a budget for their employees? They're paying minimum wage, as is their legal right. Work for them or don't work for them, follow their budget or don't, what the fuck difference does it make? The minimum wage is the minimum wage until it's not. Got a beef, call your Senator and Congressman. I don't turn to McDonalds for financial planning, I go to them for heavenly fast food (especially the McRib), and neither should their employees.

The OP put this out like it's a condemnation of some sort and it's a miserable failure. Nobody with an ounce of sense would invest any time on this, it's a burger joint.

coming from the same guy who wished starvation and death upon the family of any union member who worked to protect their wages, your sentiment is not unexpected.

and for your edification, the annual promotion of the McRib only coincides with a drop in pork prices. i guess they can count on some people to see the limited availability as an irresistible allure rather than a good way to move heap "pork" that has been processed to the point of unrecognizability.

lol @ heavenly. do you feed on chum when you're not subsisting on McD's?

 

[kelly4]

lol @ heavenly. do you feed on chum when you're not subsisting on McD's?

"Chum is fum." But, I still like Krabby Patties better.

 

[grebal]

^ You can focus on the negative (like many CEOs being grossly overpaid) or suggest a better alternative system.

Government tweaking and social engineering programs use tax dollars to further some bureaucrat's agenda - which might or might not coincide with the "greater" good. But often the "end" never materializes, and always there are unintended consequences. It's generally better to mistrust greater government intervention absent some compelling reason (like a uniform federal aviation policy).

Today CEOs are grossly overpaid in large part because President Clinton imposed a millionnaire tax on CEOs making over a million. So companies responded by competing for top "talent" by paying in ways other than direct salary comp., what has now evolved to outrageous stock option compensation.

More presently, the fed gov has recently effectively crowded out private lending for student loans, loans for all thanks to intended fed government policy. Forget for a moment that few may be required to ever repay the loans (and whatever imbalance might ensue), but the end result is that rates of increase in college education costs have far exceeded growth in income. More people are demanding college, and the supply (new, good, schools) is not growing as fast. And though more expensive relative to income, at the same time a college education has been devalued across the board (there are more college graduates than there would have been had the govenment not pushed so many to borrow money they couldn't afford to repay, and who might have gone instead to some vocational school). Often what's called "unintended consequences" are friggin obvious.

 

[BygonEra]

and please don't ask americans to lower our standard of living to other shit holes.

Uhh... What? I didn't. Why would someone voluntarily lower their standard of living? I was simply pointing out that you seem quite arrogant and unappreciative of the living standards you happened to be born into. Not everyone is that lucky.

 

[SlaveNoMore]

coming from the same guy who wished starvation and death upon the family of any union member who worked to protect their wages, your sentiment is not unexpected.

and for your edification, the annual promotion of the McRib only coincides with a drop in pork prices. i guess they can count on some people to see the limited availability as an irresistible allure rather than a good way to move heap "pork" that has been processed to the point of unrecognizability.

lol @ heavenly. do you feed on chum when you're not subsisting on McD's?

Bolded: This is a good point. It is good business practice but people don't understand where their Mcrib comes from and the effect it has on the environment. I love teaching people how to butcher meat because it often changes their whole perspective on mass produced meat. If your mcrib costs $3 dollars you have to ask yourself how much is being spent on the raw good? The impact on the environment, the impact on a persons health and the economic impact caused by people eating sick food and getting sick from it don't seem to be an issue and that's disturbing.

 

[Julius Caesar]

the annual promotion of the McRib only coincides with a drop in pork prices. i guess they can count on some people to see the limited availability as an irresistible allure rather than a good way to move heap "pork" that has been processed to the point of unrecognizability.

http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=overrated_sandwiches

 

[UncleBuck]

Bolded: This is a good point. It is good business practice but people don't understand where their Mcrib comes from and the effect it has on the environment. I love teaching people how to butcher meat because it often changes their whole perspective on mass produced meat. If your mcrib costs $3 dollars you have to ask yourself how much is being spent on the raw good? The impact on the environment, the impact on a persons health and the economic impact caused by people eating sick food and getting sick from it don't seem to be an issue and that's disturbing.

do you think he would still call it heavenly if he saw his food being pumped full of chemicals and standing shin deep in its own shit?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

that is not a picture of pigs being injected while standing in excrement
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all those pigs in your picture are dead waiting to be mashed into pig paste

i rate your post 1 star for misleading and sexy

 

[kelly4]

do you think he would still call it heavenly if he saw his food being pumped full of chemicals and standing shin deep in its own shit?

They don't seem to mind. They seem pretty tranquil to me.

 

[SlaveNoMore]

do you think he would still call it heavenly if he saw his food being pumped full of chemicals and standing shin deep in its own shit?QUOTE]
This is why I advocate to people to at least get educated about where their food comes from. It wasn't born and raised in prepackaged containers. This is why I take hunting/fishing very seriously. Lots can be learned by standing in the guts of an animal you watched die by your own hand. It changes a person's perception. This factory farming shit disgusts me. There is no reverence for the life of the animal.

 

[kelly4]

If someone doesn't like working for minimum wage, they could always move to Failville. Fin says that within 5 years robots will do all of the towns work. A person could hold a job if they desire...management even. I don't know who they will manage, since robots will be doing all of the work, but it will free up more time for singing and scratching. I guess you can rent out your robot for cash, too. The man really has thought of it all. Failville!!

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

is that what hes up too . . .

 

[barbz]

Look at Craigslist before you start dissing minwage "losers."

some of the jobs that pay minimum want proficiency in a whole bunch of software packages, plus other skills. All for $8 an hour. I wouldn't get out of bed for that.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Go vegan. Live in peace. I feel no guilt in my life. BTW, I never been to a vegan eatery which paid minimum wage because we respect life. Buck, I hope parasites become friends with you the next time you eat a McRib. Because those parasites have their right to live too.

 

[kelly4]

Look at Craigslist before you start dissing minwage "losers."

some of the jobs that pay minimum want proficiency in a whole bunch of software packages, plus other skills. All for $8 an hour. I wouldn't get out of bed for that.

Of course UB liked this post...sometimes he won't even get out of bed when he shits. LOL!

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

CS your signature makes no sense, and is 100% contradictory to itself .. . .talk about a mindfuck

anyone else read that . . . are you still on medication CS?