Egyptians protest again.

[karousing]

In Poland they have more brains than whatever country you come from. I don't actually know if that is true but I'm taking an educated guess and I would bet I'm right.

Anyway, What's wrong with using just a regular plane? There is no need to be flamboyant about spending tax payers money, is there? There is no need to show your power when your power is already assumed.
Of course I am just speaking wise things now and you probably have no idea wtf im talking about or you disagree, In which case I would not be surprised. Just know this, I'm right, but you think i'm not because you don't like me. As I was saying
Me = Smarter. you = not apparently too smart.

in a book i read it stated that each person of power had a bodyguard but the people of true power were the ones that walked without them because it was a known fact that they had no need.

 

[karousing]

maybe i misread the original posting on this thread but was it not about the problems in egypt?
ive read the entire thread so far, mostly it is people defending themselves while debasing others.
the real problem is that as a whole (the world), not secular (countries), have been led astray and fooled.
we could very easily have a genuine well founded base for society. we could, and maybe i fail to comprehend why we dont.
there are people who we let control us because they say they know whats best.
whens the last time you heard a politician speak about 1 world 1 tribe instead of their own little district?
there are problems in egypt, there are problems in the america, there are problems in australia, greece, uk, europe, asia, north america, there are problems everywhere.
until we start dealing with these problems at the base (what has caused these problems, what lets them happen over and over, solutions?) how do you expect to evolve?
we can very easily start a change today/tonight and make a better world.
so what are your problems?
what is the root cause?
how do we solve it?
what is the best way? not the easiest or quickest but best.
please look up resource based societies, one tribe societies. most of you have seen very similar societies in all the major movies but have probably not realised it.
star trek is a good one, not perfect, but a good starting point due to its current position in todays society.
now if money didnt exist, and every basic need was provided for you (food, water, shelter, clothing), what would you do? you could learn anything you wanted
you could go anywhere you wanted, you could make and see genuine change in society as a part and a whole.
what would you do?
and yes growing weed all day, making the best set up, learning the best way and the proper nutrients mixtures and making your own and working with others, the complete and utter freedom of knowledge
every discovery on how to do something better, faster, smarter, cures, blueprints, ideas, books, stories, movies, problems, solutions....
what would you do?

 

[NoDrama]

what is the root cause?

People don't have enough money to afford basic living necessities like FOOD.

 

[Highlowazupkush]

in a book i read it stated that each person of power had a bodyguard but the people of true power were the ones that walked without them because it was a known fact that they had no need.

That makes sense, but I think that it really might depend on a few factors.

Why for instance, was JF Kennedy Assassinated, and martin Luther King? Ill tell you why, It is because of the times that we live in right now. The year 2013. There are just too many things in our lives that we allow, which make people change in various negative ways. And it is because of these things that we live in fear; For example, some people become greedy, and then they become dangerous because they feed their greed at the expense of other peoples health, safety and often, lives.
We're surrounded by foul hearted people who think only of them selves. They were not born that way, but the world that we have created has made them become like this.

Society should work in such a way that everyone is taken care of symbiotically. But it doesn't work that way at all! There is basically no society in many places of the world! Just ants.

maybe i misread the original posting on this thread but was it not about the problems in egypt?
ive read the entire thread so far, mostly it is people defending themselves while debasing others.
the real problem is that as a whole (the world), not secular (countries), have been led astray and fooled.
we could very easily have a genuine well founded base for society. we could, and maybe i fail to comprehend why we dont.
there are people who we let control us because they say they know whats best.
whens the last time you heard a politician speak about 1 world 1 tribe instead of their own little district?
there are problems in egypt, there are problems in the america, there are problems in australia, greece, uk, europe, asia, north america, there are problems everywhere.
until we start dealing with these problems at the base (what has caused these problems, what lets them happen over and over, solutions?) how do you expect to evolve?
we can very easily start a change today/tonight and make a better world.
so what are your problems?
what is the root cause?
how do we solve it?
what is the best way? not the easiest or quickest but best.
please look up resource based societies, one tribe societies. most of you have seen very similar societies in all the major movies but have probably not realised it.
star trek is a good one, not perfect, but a good starting point due to its current position in todays society.
now if money didnt exist, and every basic need was provided for you (food, water, shelter, clothing), what would you do? you could learn anything you wanted
you could go anywhere you wanted, you could make and see genuine change in society as a part and a whole.
what would you do?
and yes growing weed all day, making the best set up, learning the best way and the proper nutrients mixtures and making your own and working with others, the complete and utter freedom of knowledge
every discovery on how to do something better, faster, smarter, cures, blueprints, ideas, books, stories, movies, problems, solutions....
what would you do?

Exactly! I am often thinking to my self that the basic needs of life should be free! I mean obviously people need to put in effort to make food grow, but we shouldn't just let people go hungry because they lack money!?
Starvation due to lack of money makes money seem like a terrible idea! although maybe money isn't really all that bad. I think it is just the way that we use money that is wrong.

What would I do? holly shit man, id invent every genius Idea that ever came to mind! Some of the people here wouldn't believe it for a second, but sometimes I get some really clever idea`s.
If I was to study physics in my own way (not the usual way, where you go to school and sit on your ass all day, then right 10 essays that are each 100 pages long) that could be really awesome.

People don't have enough money to afford basic living necessities like FOOD.

Basic foods that make up a healthy diet should be free for everyone. Exotic foods, chocolate, etc should carry on being a pay for item.

 

[Doer]

But you know.. Instead of trying to think and figure out whats really going on, You just take a side and insult everyone else. MAKING EFFORT to lower from others to show that YOU are strong and that you are able to argue. Only arguing with useless bullshit. Wake up, think! and stop watching fucking cable its eating your brains.

Search for "The arrivals" on Google. Don't believe what they're saying, just evaluate what you see, try to understand!. Don't just say ok to anything they say. You have a brain, you have rights!.

I don't, I'm maddeningly neutral. Ask anyone. It is a curse that my wife hurls.

I want to know what you say, and that is why I ask you. I don't want those opinions I want yours.

And while some might think forum life if a primitive fight for ego dominance, I am the one that says these photon don't hurt us.

So, while I understand the Youts are Facist and Zombie-like, Hell, I was too. But, now I feel better.

Tell me what you are seeing from your viewpoint. I will suck your brain for details.

But, let's don't fight. Ignore these ....hey, eyes on me. Ignore these clowns. That's right. Like eye contact.

OK, tell me. I am not or ever arguing. Why in the world would we argue about nothing. And all is nothing to me compared to the glory of NOW.

I regulate chumps and discuss the imponderables of the world situation with adults, while burning trolls where they stand.

Don't get confused. There are a few normal individuals here. I am even in touch with my UB.

You have a view I would like to hear. If you can't do it without blaming......OK...,sigh....I still try to get what info you can bring.

BTW, you told me to read something but not believe it. So, I can just hear it from you.

1- what is likely to happen now?

 

[echelon1k1]

That makes sense, but I think that it really might depend on a few factors.

Why for instance, was JF Kennedy Assassinated, and martin Luther King? Ill tell you why, It is because of the times that we live in right now. The year 2013. There are just too many things in our lives that we allow, which make people change in various negative ways. And it is because of these things that we live in fear; For example, some people become greedy, and then they become dangerous because they feed their greed at the expense of other peoples health, safety and often, lives.
We're surrounded by foul hearted people who think only of them selves. They were not born that way, but the world that we have created has made them become like this.

Society should work in such a way that everyone is taken care of symbiotically. But it doesn't work that way at all! There is basically no society in many places of the world! Just ants.

Do you know what "symbiosis" means?

 

[Doer]

Do you know what "symbiosis" means?

Hey, that was not the question. WhY???? Why were they Assassinated?

Answer: its 2013. It is a sign of the times.Why for instance, was JF Kennedy Assassinated, and martin Luther King? Ill tell you why, It is because of the times that we live in right now. The year 2013.

 

[karousing]

People don't have enough money to afford basic living necessities like FOOD.

what if money was not a necessity. technically to survive it is not. what we need is very similar in many ways to what a plant needs. (plus a little more until futher knowledge is discovered)

we need food to survive. we need water to survive. we need shelter and clothing to survive.

that is very easily to accomplish and could be done so within a week. we have the machines and tools to automate pretty much every facet other then the designing which even then could be done by machines with very little input.

so how can this be put into place immediately? what steps have to be undertaken?

now that it is in place (i know it isnt yet but could be)

what do you need to thrive? what do you need for personal growth, what does society need for growth?

always focuse on the step you are on and plan for the next. just like walking, left foot, right foot, the body will follow.

 

[echelon1k1]

Hey, that was not the question. WhY???? Why were they Assassinated?

Answer: its 2013. It is a sign of the times.Why for instance, was JF Kennedy Assassinated, and martin Luther King? Ill tell you why, It is because of the times that we live in right now. The year 2013.

Damn Doer, I was getting to that, wanted to drag it out first... I was enthralled with the idea of a symbiotic relationship becoming the norm in society, like... I don't know being paid and hourly rate for the labour you perform....

 

[karousing]

Do you know what "symbiosis" means?

Symbiosis (from Ancient Greek σύν "together" and βίωσις "living")[SUP][1][/SUP] is close and often long-term interaction between two or more different biological species. In 1877, Albert Bernhard Frank used the word symbiosis (which previously had been used to depict people living together in community) to describe the mutualistic relationship in lichens.[SUP][2][/SUP] In 1879, the German mycologist Heinrich Anton de Bary defined it as "the living together of unlike organisms."[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP]
The definition of symbiosis is controversial among scientists. Some believe symbiosis should only refer to persistent mutualisms, while others believe it should apply to any types of persistent biological interactions (i.e. mutualistic,commensalistic, or parasitic).[SUP][5][/SUP]
Some symbiotic relationships are obligate, meaning that both symbionts entirely depend on each other for survival. For example, many lichens consist of fungal and photosynthetic symbionts that cannot live on their own.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Others are facultative, meaning that they can, but do not have to live with the other organism.
Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another (ectosymbiosis, such as mistletoe), or where one partner lives inside the other (endosymbiosis, such as lactobacilli and other bacteria in humans orSymbiodinium in corals).[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] Symbiosis is also classified by physical attachment of the organisms; symbiosis in which the organisms have bodily union is called conjunctive symbiosis, and symbiosis in which they are not in union is called disjunctive symbiosis.[SUP][11][/SUP]

 

[karousing]

so i think the real question is, when does a symbiotic relationship stop being considered that and is instead a parasitic relationship?

 

[echelon1k1]

Symbiosis (from Ancient Greek σύν "together" and βίωσις "living")[SUP][1][/SUP] is close and often long-term interaction between two or more different biological species. In 1877, Albert Bernhard Frank used the word symbiosis (which previously had been used to depict people living together in community) to describe the mutualistic relationship in lichens.[SUP][2][/SUP] In 1879, the German mycologist Heinrich Anton de Bary defined it as "the living together of unlike organisms."[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP]
The definition of symbiosis is controversial among scientists. Some believe symbiosis should only refer to persistent mutualisms, while others believe it should apply to any types of persistent biological interactions (i.e. mutualistic,commensalistic, or parasitic).[SUP][5][/SUP]
Some symbiotic relationships are obligate, meaning that both symbionts entirely depend on each other for survival. For example, many lichens consist of fungal and photosynthetic symbionts that cannot live on their own.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Others are facultative, meaning that they can, but do not have to live with the other organism.
Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one organism lives on another (ectosymbiosis, such as mistletoe), or where one partner lives inside the other (endosymbiosis, such as lactobacilli and other bacteria in humans orSymbiodinium in corals).[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] Symbiosis is also classified by physical attachment of the organisms; symbiosis in which the organisms have bodily union is called conjunctive symbiosis, and symbiosis in which they are not in union is called disjunctive symbiosis.[SUP][11][/SUP]

We are not talking biology and organisms here...

Symbiosis - A relationship of mutual benefit or dependence

 

[karousing]

We are not talking biology and organisms here...

• Symbiosis - A relationship of mutual benefit or dependence
  
  
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but the only reason there is dependence is? because of money, government, lack of education, misinformation, fear.

so what would happen if we removed these problems? food would be grown for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain foods and what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future.
clothing would be made and available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain clothing, what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future.
shelter would be available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain areas, designs, materials etc etc etc.....

would you be forced to do something? no. the choice is yours and yours alone. but right now the choice is not yours. you may think it is but lets be honest. its not. you only have the information and education available to you to make decisions. (im not debasing you in any way, only saying their is too much disinformation out there)
not to mention that every single thing you buy is for commercial use, it has an expiry date. it has to break down in order to keep up consumption. what if your things never broke down? what if your things could be completely recycled to make new, better things once the technology is available?
we could live in a symbiotic society and not a parasitic one.
all we have to do is remove them. like monkeys picking lice/bugs off each others back instead of letting those lice and bugs infect us.

would you not choose the best available option at the time?

 

[echelon1k1]

but the only reason there is dependence is? because of money, government, lack of education, misinformation, fear.

so what would happen if we removed these problems? food would be grown for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain foods and what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future.
clothing would be made and available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain clothing, what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future.
shelter would be available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain areas, designs, materials etc etc etc.....

would you be forced to do something? no. the choice is yours and yours alone. but right now the choice is not yours. you may think it is but lets be honest. its not. you only have the information and education available to you to make decisions. (im not debasing you in any way, only saying their is too much disinformation out there)
not to mention that every single thing you buy is for commercial use, it has an expiry date. it has to break down in order to keep up consumption. what if your things never broke down? what if your things could be completely recycled to make new, better things once the technology is available?
we could live in a symbiotic society and not a parasitic one.
all we have to do is remove them. like monkeys picking lice/bugs off each others back instead of letting those lice and bugs infect us.

would you not choose the best available option at the time?

TBH it sounds too utopic and unattainable. While the idea is worth striving for, it's still down to the main idea of education and you yourself pointed out the over abundance of information in this day and age. I could see it happening, only after knocking off half the population...

 

[Doer]

but the only reason there is dependence is? because of money, government, lack of education, misinformation, fear.

so what would happen if we removed (what????) these problems? food would be grown for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain foods and what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future. clothing would be made and available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain clothing, what effects it will have on them and how those effects will affect them now, and in the future. shelter would be available for everyone, everyone would be educated on why they should choose certain areas, designs, materials etc etc etc.....

would you be forced to do something? no. the choice is yours and yours alone. but right now the choice is not yours. you may think it is but lets be honest. its not. you only have the information and education available to you to make decisions. (im not debasing you in any way, only saying their is too much disinformation out there)
not to mention that every single thing you buy is for commercial use, it has an expiry date. it has to break down in order to keep up consumption. what if your things never broke down? what if your things could be completely recycled to make new, better things once the technology is available?
we could live in a symbiotic society and not a parasitic one.

Well, where is your Wand? See, this is the essence of conspiracy and the self-fulfilling under-class.

The more you educate yourself, (notice I did not say, "are educated.") the more you understand the deep, history and complexity of the worlds problems the less you are able to think it is SO EASY.

But, that is too hard for most if not all Youts. It was for me.

So, then the low-brow logic. If it is SO EASY for you to know the solution, in your state of no-nothing, then it must be a CONSPIRACY to deny us, right?

Yeah, simple and they WON"T DO IT.

And you think then, if they would stop doing it, (whatever it is supposed to be) then all the wonders you suggest would just happen.

 

[karousing]

Why? Maybe just maybe by telling people about this and showing them a light at the end of the tunnel they can actually set a point to go to. Like driving, if you are only looking backwards how do you expect to know where your going?
Look forwards, set a destination, select the best way to get there, put the plan into action. People do it everyday when they get ready for work. It's time to get ready for life

 

[kelly4]

Basic foods that make up a healthy diet should be free for everyone.

Who's going to pay for this FREE food?

 

[karousing]

Who's going to pay for this FREE food?

Please search up a resource based society

 

[kelly4]

Please search up a resource based society

It sounds a lot like the town Finshizzle is trying to start. It's called Failville.

 

[Doer]

Why? Maybe just maybe by telling people about this and showing them a light at the end of the tunnel they can actually set a point to go to. Like driving, if you are only looking backwards how do you expect to know where your going?
Look forwards, set a destination, select the best way to get there, put the plan into action. People do it everyday when they get ready for work. It's time to get ready for life

But, such a giant ego. You act like you just found cold fusion. We know all that and have known it for 70,000 years.

You get ready for your life, if you can. I have arrived.

Your turn.

But, you are not showing a light.

Read about Plato's Cave and we can begin discussion there.