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MojoRison

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When humans are put side by side with nature, we are left naked {literally} and are found wanting. All things being equal, we simply do not have the physical makeup to handle nature on it's purest terms. It's has been our intellect, our capacity to reason that has saved us from extinction.
 

sunni

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Even if they catch it themselves in Northern Ontario somewhere?...wow

What about candy?...rice krispy treats and smores OK?.
vegans do not consume any animal products or bi products, fish, eggs, milk, honey, none of that including marshmellows and jello
 

Sunbiz1

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vegans do not consume any animal products or bi products, fish, eggs, milk, honey, none of that including marshmellows and jello
This sounds worse than prison food.

I'm sure this has been commented and discussed, but what about the Native Americans that had to live off bison for thousands of years?.

Even in Biblical times, man had no choice but to eat fish for survival.
 

Indagrow

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so i need soy protein shakes and a couple nut trees in my backyard and im set right? its definitely interesting to see those people breaking stereotypes like that i didn't think that was possible. Im sure they eat a bunch of soy and nuts but hey you do what you gotta do. I would defiantly be interested if there wasn't the stigma about it, i don't want to switch and start forcing my ways on others (jprin) and thats what i see all vegans do. My sister is a vegetarian and insist i try all her vegan meat substitutes which is fine my me food is food. i just feel like the my food intake would have to skyrocket when the things i need readily accessible in meat. I agree the videos on the meat industry is appalling and the main reason why i haven't seen any of them (especially with a vegan agenda attached to them). My issue is i don't really enjoy eating.. i never seem hungry.. so when i am i want to take advantage of it... i have become more health conscious and actually started eating more plants in my diet since encountering you sunni but still i can't put the bacon down
 

kinetic

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I will say if and when my kid ever says they are going to become vegetarian or vegan I will support them 100%.
 

420God

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~~~> http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865579936/105-year-old-woman-says-bacon-is-the-key-to-longevity.html?pg=all

A 105-year-old Texas woman recently revealed her secret to her longevity: bacon.
Pearl Cantrell from Richland Springs, Texas, recently celebrated her 105th birthday with more than 200 guests. The event lasted three days.
"I love bacon, I eat it every day," Pearl Cantrell told NBC affiliate KRBC. "I don't feel as old as I am, that's all I can say."
Cantrell became a widow at age 38 and worked as everything from a cotton picker to a hay baler while raising seven kids on her own. Although Cantrell retired decades ago, she kept mowing her own lawn until the age of 100, according to the West Texas Tribune. She also still dances — some of her favorite styles include country dancing, waltzing and two-stepping.
When Oscar Mayer found out about Cantrell's love of bacon, they sent one of their iconic Wienermobile to make a bacon delivery to Cantrell's home. Cantrell rode “shot-bun” in the Wienermobile through her hometown, as dozens of local residents watched.
"We've seen a lot of stories on the road, but nothing quite like this one, so we're excited to be here," an Oscar Meyer spokesman told Big Country Homepage. "We know she’s an inspiration. Pearl is an inspiration for the community, and her friends and family. So we had to make a special stop here for her today."
A study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine last March found that eating a single serving of processed red meat (about the size of a deck of cards) every day increased the risk of participants dying prematurely by 13 percent. If a person ate an additional serving of processed red meat, the chance of drying during the 22 year study period jumped to 20 percent. However, a more recent study performed by the University of Zurich found the opposite: that eating little or no red meat can be a risk factor for early death.
Despite what research says, Cantrell plans to continue eating bacon and dancing.
"I love bacon, I could eat it for every meal — and I do!" Cantrell said.
 

420God

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~~~> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/07/worlds-oldest-woman-turns_n_183946.html

LOS ANGELES — The world's oldest known living person celebrated her 115th birthday Monday.
Gertrude Baines was honored at Western Convalescent Hospital with music, a letter from the president, and two cakes.
Baines said little during the celebration as friends sang to her and she received a proclamation from Guinness World Records acknowledging her as the world's oldest person.
"Who would take Los Angeles for the place that would have the world's oldest person?" Robert Young, a scientist and senior consultant with Guinness, said later in an interview. "Living that long is like winning the genetic lottery."
Born in 1894 in Shellman, Ga., Baines became the world's oldest living person when a 115-year-old woman, Maria de Jesus, died in Portugal in January.
Baines' physician said she only has two complaints.
"Number one, she doesn't like the bacon. It's not crisp enough," the doctor, Charles Witt Jr., told KCAL-TV. "And the other thing is she fusses about her ... arthritis of her knees. She told me that she owes her longevity to the Lord, that she never did drink, she never did smoke and she never did fool around."
Baines father, born two years before the Civil War in 1863, was likely a slave, Young said. Baines has outlived her entire family. Her only daughter died of typhoid fever when she was a toddler.
Featured on local television newscasts in November when she cast her ballot for Barack Obama for president, Baines said she backed him "because he's for the colored." She said she never thought she would live to see a black man become president.
Baines received a letter from Obama, wishing her a happy birthday.
Baines worked as a maid in Ohio State University dormitories until her retirement, and has lived at the Los Angeles convalescent hospital for more than 10 years.
Since 1986, Young said, the world's oldest person title has been held by a woman for all but 44 days.
 

NietzscheKeen

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I was a dedicated vegetarian for 2 decades. When I became allergic to insulin I had no choice but to put down my vegetarian diet. I eat all meat. If I eat carbs I get sick. 'Good for you' is a relative term. We can describe good for a population but the suggestions become binary for the specific organism.
Paleo diet for you! I did the paleo diet for a year and loved it. Only stopped because I had to start cooking for others as well.
 

Indagrow

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  • Since 1986, Young said, the world's oldest person title has been held by a woman for all but 44 days.

    Sounds like a great birthday card.​




 

Balzac89

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How many people who eat bacon everyday and die of massive heart attacks, I bet for your one example there are thousands who die.
 

Sunbiz1

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How many people who eat bacon everyday and die of massive heart attacks, I bet for your one example there are thousands who die.
True, but can you honestly say a shrimp by itself is actually better tasting than a shrimp wrapped in a piece of bacon?.
 

guy incognito

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I agree. I'm sure you can find an example of a cig smoker living to be 100+. As much as I love meat, and am unwilling to alter my meat rich diet despite knowing the health consequences to me, and the environment, and to the animals I eat, I sill see the old bacon loving lady as an anomaly and not the rule. Some people will live to be 100+ no matter what. Some will die as kids no matter what. For the majority of us though there definitely appears to be a relationship between meat and health.
 

Balzac89

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I agree. I'm sure you can find an example of a cig smoker living to be 100+. As much as I love meat, and am unwilling to alter my meat rich diet despite knowing the health consequences to me, and the environment, and to the animals I eat, I sill see the old bacon loving lady as an anomaly and not the rule. Some people will live to be 100+ no matter what. Some will die as kids no matter what. For the majority of us though there definitely appears to be a relationship between meat and health.
But can you explain why you would choose to do something even though you know in the long run its going to destroy your health.

My father had open heart surgery. I would like to avoid that by doing as much as possible.

Other than free will?
 

420God

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But can you explain why you would choose to do something even though you know in the long run its going to destroy your health.

My father had open heart surgery. I would like to avoid that by doing as much as possible.

Other than free will?
Some things are in your genetics, not a lot you can do about it other than look out for your own health and adjust your diet as need be. Doesn't mean that it's right for everyone.

3 different examples of people living over 100 btw.
 

guy incognito

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But can you explain why you would choose to do something even though you know in the long run its going to destroy your health.

My father had open heart surgery. I would like to avoid that by doing as much as possible.

Other than free will?
Because I like it. I enjoy eating it. The same reason I consume alcohol. You think drinking a pint of rum, a couple cans of coke, and smoking 3-4 joints is good for my body? I know it's not but I do it anyway because I enjoy it and I feel it is worth a slight reduction in my life expectancy and some health problems down the road in order to enjoy it now.

Do you ever consume soda? or candy? Those are bad for you and you know it but you still probably occasionally indulge. And if not on that them I am sure you do knowingly do other stuff that is bad for your health. We can't all live in bubbles forever.
 
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