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email468

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That might have been in the US, but this was in Africa.Children don't lie, and you cant say they are because you don't know.

Ignorance is the social disease of history that has clouded our minds and dulled our brains. Is the evil that men do, the reason history repeats, and the cause of intolerance. I will deny ignorance.

So you are saying only children in the US lie? Children don't lie? Do you have any kids?

You can't say they aren't lying because you don't know. See how that works?

I agree ignorance is a social disease and I am doing my best to trample it out.
 

Brandon78125

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No i'm not saying children only lie in the us,i was talking about the satanic thing you mentioned happening in this country. Why would children lie though? A child has no reason to lie.
 

email468

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No i'm not saying children only lie in the us,i was talking about the satanic thing you mentioned happening in this country. Why would children lie though? A child has no reason to lie.
A child is easily influenced by adults and their peers. They also may be misinterpreting what they are seeing.

Anecdote and testimonials are not very good evidence of anything. Unlike in courts of law, in science, they are not acceptable forms of evidence.
 

Brandon78125

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So you're saying that all 62 of these children were told to lie about an alien visitation by adults and their peers?I'm sorry but that sounds quite ridiculous to me. "Ok kids, lets tell everyone that aliens visited us and it'll be really funny!" yea right! kids wouldnt be able to lie about it.When i watch this video, i see serious looks on these kid's faces as they are speaking.These kids cant be Emmy Award winning actors either, they're kids! All the kids drew pictures of what they saw, there was no misinterpretation. Id rather have a child's testimonial then an adult's testimonial anyday. Children tell it like they see it.
 

email468

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So you're saying that all 62 of these children were told to lie about an alien visitation by adults and their peers?I'm sorry but that sounds quite ridiculous to me. "Ok kids, lets tell everyone that aliens visited us and it'll be really funny!" yea right! kids wouldnt be able to lie about it.When i watch this video, i see serious looks on these kid's faces as they are speaking.These kids cant be Emmy Award winning actors either, they're kids! All the kids drew pictures of what they saw, there was no misinterpretation. Id rather have a child's testimonial then an adult's testimonial. Children tell it like they see it, they don't lie.
Let me get this straight - a group of kids lying sounds ridiculous but flying saucers and alien dudes running around doesn't?
You'll forgive me if I don't agree with your idea of what can be considered ridiculous.

you are credulous. I am not. bring me an alien body or a piece of UFO .. something.. anything that can't be faked and i'll be right there with you. I would love to verify extraterrestrial life - it would be thrilling!

But until that time comes - yes these kids are lying or misinterpreting events.

and if you think you can look at someone and determine if they are lying - i predict some folks are really going to screw you over ... and no - i'm not a psychic.

I really don't know where you get the idea that kids don't lie. Especially when i gave you an example of many, many children from all parts of our nation caught lying. so yes -- kids can and do lie... often.

I understand - you want to believe so you'll believe just about anything that fits your worldview. But don't expect everyone to swallow this malarky without raising some counterpoints.
 
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email468

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Children tell it like they see it.
Not true. Children and adults.. everyone tells it the way they think or believe they see it. Sometimes we are accurate - more often we are not.

Our vision is poor, our memory corrupt, and our brain interprets. We have selective vision and often miss or completely overlook obvious things.

we are very poor eyewitnesses.
 

Brandon78125

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Ok so you need to see some evidence to believe., What do you think about the Roswell incident and area 51.What about all the ufo videos that are out there? How do you explain them?
 

email468

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Ok so you need to see some evidence to believe., What do you think about the Roswell incident and area 51.What about all the ufo videos that are out there? How do you explain them?
what do i think of roswell/area 51 and youtube UFO videos? If i had to choose just one word it would be... bullshit.

yes, i need to see (physical) evidence to believe.

to be honest, i don't have to explain the videos at all. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. If the claim can be falsified (faked) or the evidence can't be presented because of some big secret cover-up then there is no evidence.

In fact, i think the video makers need to explain why - if UFOs are all over the place as they seem to claim - why no physical evidence exists?

I mean if the aliens are smart enough to be able to cover their tracks of physical evidence - you'd think they'd know better than to let some youtuber video tape them, right? doesn't that stand to reason?
 

The Dude 4552

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Quiet Email468, the aliens can hear your thoughts and if they know you think they don't exist, why they will just scoop you up in the middle of the night, slip you a roofie and perform sick twisted experiments on you.

Actually the odds are 1 in 340 million that there is another species of life outside of earth that has the ability to communicate outside of its own planet. Look how long it took for human beings to evolve after the big bang. I think we are as sophisticated as it gets.
 

email468

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Quiet Email468, the aliens can hear your thoughts and if they know you think they don't exist, why they will just scoop you up in the middle of the night, slip you a roofie and perform sick twisted experiments on you.
Don't worry - i have my tin foil hat.

Actually the odds are 1 in 340 million that there is another species of life outside of earth that has the ability to communicate outside of its own planet. Look how long it took for human beings to evolve after the big bang. I think we are as sophisticated as it gets.
is that directly from Drake or is it updated? Considering the vastness of the universe - those are actually pretty good odds!
 

The Dude 4552

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It was a statistic I heard whilst watching a Discovery channel Doc 100 Greatest Discoveries: Astronomy.

It's funny seeing Bill Nye in a serious role, i was used to watching his videos in science class grade 6.
 
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hom36rown

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We only use 3.5 % of our DNA, science calls the rest of it "junk" DNA. well thats bullshit.The human brain is a very powerful thing and there is a lot more to tap into. Look at Cris Angel or David Blaine, they are able to read minds, walk through walls, levitate,walk on water and many other things. All of that stuff is real and it is possible. Through spiritual meditation and the awakening of your true self, you gain psychic abilities.
LMFAO, yeah cris angel mustve somehow reached into the inner realms of his mind lol, fuck thats funny, I watch his show and I wonder to myself, hmmm I wonder if theres anyone dumb enough to believe this shit, now I have my answer
 

hom36rown

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It was a statistic I heard whilst watching a Discovery channel Doc 100 Greatest Inventions: Astronomy.

It's funny seeing Bill Nye in a serious role, i was used to watching his videos in science class grade 6.
Bill nye is the shit, I owe so much of my knowledge of science to him lol
 

Mr.KushMan

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Hey I dont know if this has been said but research stufff on Indigo Children and Crystal children and stuff of that nature. It is said that the Indigo Children when they realize there potential will be the leaders of the new world that is to come one day. 60% of people between 14-25 are indigo and 90%of children under14 are crystal, So it is possible these children will be the leaders after Nibiru has gone.

Peace
 

Mr.KushMan

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Also the odds of there not being another lifeform on other planets is......you would have a better chance of winning a 6 number lottery with 49 picks, the 6/49, 5 weeks in a row. So there is a chance that there is not but it is very unlikely.
 

Brandon78125

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Quiet Email468, the aliens can hear your thoughts and if they know you think they don't exist, why they will just scoop you up in the middle of the night, slip you a roofie and perform sick twisted experiments on you.

Actually the odds are 1 in 340 million that there is another species of life outside of earth that has the ability to communicate outside of its own planet. Look how long it took for human beings to evolve after the big bang. I think we are as sophisticated as it gets.
Dude how do you come up with those odds man? How can you believe the big bang theory? One day back in time a person came up with the notion of the big bang theory and then everyone believed him ? How do you know the big bang theory was actually what happened? I do know aliens are real and they have been visiting our planet for a long time now. The government knows about them,and it wasn't a weather balloon that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, it was an alien craft. Which contained alien bodies, some were alive and some were dead. The government has established good contact with the aliens ever since.

This video series not only proves the existence of UFOS and extraterrestrials but it also proves the U.S. Government is lying on this issue. 400 witnesses in any case is proof positive. The Title for this series is called the Disclosure Project.
If there was ever a lie told by anyone, no lie is bigger than the lie that the U.S. government has told to mankind (the world) about the existence of UFOS and extraterrestrials. The U.S. Government is purposely keeping every person on this planet in the darkness on the true light on this matter. They say that the only proof of life was found in fossilized bacteria recovered from a meteor; this was said at a televised NASA news conference. This was said to try to appease everyone in the world from hiding the real truth about life outside planet earth because information had surfaced by Sgt. Homer Rowlett's daughter about the UFO and Alien Beings recovered at Roswell by her father: Sgt. Homer Rowlett in 1947

YouTube - This Series Proves The Existence Of UFOS pt1.


Watch it.
this too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zSc8M5N-78
 
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email468

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Dude how do you come up with those odds man? How can you believe the big bang theory? One day back in time a person came up with the notion of the big bang theory and then everyone believed him ? How do you know the big bang theory was actually what happened? I do know aliens are real and they have been visiting our planet for a long time now. The government knows about them,and it wasn't a weather balloon that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, it was an alien craft. Which contained alien bodies, some were alive and some were dead. The government has established good contact with the aliens ever since.

This video series not only proves the existence of UFOS and extraterrestrials but it also proves the U.S. Government is lying on this issue. 400 witnesses in any case is proof positive. The Title for this series is called the Disclosure Project.
If there was ever a lie told by anyone, no lie is bigger than the lie that the U.S. government has told to mankind (the world) about the existence of UFOS and extraterrestrials. The U.S. Government is purposely keeping every person on this planet in the darkness on the true light on this matter. They say that the only proof of life was found in fossilized bacteria recovered from a meteor; this was said at a televised NASA news conference. This was said to try to appease everyone in the world from hiding the real truth about life outside planet earth because information had surfaced by Sgt. Homer Rowlett's daughter about the UFO and Alien Beings recovered at Roswell by her father: Sgt. Homer Rowlett in 1947

YouTube - This Series Proves The Existence Of UFOS pt1.


Watch it.
this too.

YouTube - William Cooper: The U.S. UFO And Alien Coverup 1/10

Please describe big bang theory and why you don't think it is possible with citations and allow me a refutation and you can get one rebuttal also. I will then watch the videos... deal?
Bonus points if you can PROVE you KNOW aliens have visited (believing really hard does not count).
 

Brandon78125

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i didn't say it wasn't possible, it very well could be what happened, but how do we know it actually did happen? No one was there to see it happen.
 

email468

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i didn't say it wasn't possible, it very well could be what happened, but how do we know it actually did happen? No one was there to see it happen.
Fair enough. Are you familiar with something called cosmic background radiation (CBR)? If not, it is a good thing to get familiar with as it can help prove and explain a good bit about our universe.

Here is a very good article on the best observable proof:
Proof of Big Bang Seen by Space Probe, Scientists Say

I should mention that i disagree with the tile of that article. It is evidence in favor of big bang theory - but it is not "proof". The discovery of CBR is very good evidence but is just one bit of evidence in an arsenal of proof.

The "no one was there to see it happen" isn't really an argument. There is plenty from the past we didn't witness but is obviously still true. I mean we weren't around when dinosaurs roamed the Earth but creationists aside, there is no debate if they existed or not.

That's not to say there isn't any good arguments against big bang theory but so far no evidence has been presented that negates big bang theory - but more importantly all of its predictions that we have been able to observe have been correct so the theory is looking pretty good - within acceptable error bars.

But like all science there is always a possibility of a new discovery negating big bang theory at which point we must abandon in favor of a new theory which does not go against observable evidence. that is the nature of science.

I am saying all this to ensure you that i do not just think critically and skeptically regarding unusual things like UFOs and other things we are discussing but i also apply it to scientific discussions as well.
 
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