The Flying Circus
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jigfresh
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It does kinda blow me away doobie how much you rely on smoking, yet how little you seem to care about getting big harvests. I always wonder if you have forgotten you always run out of herb.
Either you or I are in good company. I just flipped to 12/12 yesterday as well.
And whodat, if you wanna send me some of those packets, I'll do a side by side on the plants I got now... make a video or two even.
Either you or I are in good company. I just flipped to 12/12 yesterday as well.
And whodat, if you wanna send me some of those packets, I'll do a side by side on the plants I got now... make a video or two even.
Thundercat
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Those nibirus like nice man. I must have missed the pics the other day. I agree with these you and these guys. I think you can totally put something great together. Its obviously working well for your girls!
Sire Killem All
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`any idea of hpw to keep them from the light not much room left. had to go vert do the length of my tube. i jus started reading on vert<not much info out there> and says keep plants 8" from light. could i make a chicken wire barrel around just the tube to save room?
whodatnation
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Id say your on the right path there, was going to suggest a scrog. Another thing I noticed is all the bends and long runs in your ducting, those two things kill the effectiveness of you fan. Obviously I dont know the details of your setup/situation but any way you can reduce bends and ducting length will help allot.
whodatnation
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Been doing lots of reading on the business aspect of things,,, I have allot to learn lmao complete newb here 
Thundercat
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Running a business can be VERY complicated. I ran my own cleaning business cleaning offices and such when I got out of highschool. It can actually pay good since the overhead is low, but I got very tired of cleaning up other peoples messes. I'm sure with something like nutrients there will also be regulations on labeling, and packaging and things. According to advance nutes the various regulations is why they don't list many of the things that are in the mix on the bottle. I know they are diffferent but might be some of the same ideas.
Sire on that vert set up, what "I" would do is put your filter on the bottom glass tube sitting right on top, and then the fan up where it is pulling air up and straight out the tent. This would eliminate all that extra ducting greatly improving air flow, and allow you to grow 360 degrees around your light easier. As far as keeping the girls away, the screen seems to be what alot of vert grows do for control.
Sire on that vert set up, what "I" would do is put your filter on the bottom glass tube sitting right on top, and then the fan up where it is pulling air up and straight out the tent. This would eliminate all that extra ducting greatly improving air flow, and allow you to grow 360 degrees around your light easier. As far as keeping the girls away, the screen seems to be what alot of vert grows do for control.
whodatnation
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AN dont list their ingredients bc allot of them are known poisons or known as low quality synthetics within the industry... And I hate AN lol. Im shooting to be as opposite from AN as I can possibly be. A quality, safe, and affordable product,,, its quite obvious all they care about is max profit at the expense of the customer. Obviously money needs to be made but Im a very simple person, I just want to leave my mark in the end and make a simple living.
Thundercat
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Well I as I said obviously very different from AN, I just meant that you may find various hoops you have to jump through to even be able to sell it on an open market. It may not be an issue if you don't try to market to stores and stuff and just sell it independently. I don't know, I definitely understand you wanting to be different though. The more I think about it, the more I think in the long run I'll end up back with soil eventually. Making that change right now just isn't gonna happen. By then you'll have your teas worked out, and have a pre bagged soil mix for me right? Nothing but water and an occasional tea from then on out.
whodatnation
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Now your getting it lol. The logistics behind shipping soil is a bit much though, I will probably make a dry soil builder or soil recycler mix that you mix into a base soil getting the same results as me bagging it up for you and shipping it,,, that would save you money and allot of it. Just mix, activate, and let it sit,,, then your good to go! 100% organic of course.
whodatnation
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DoobieBrother
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The problem is how well the herbs work to alleviate symptoms.It does kinda blow me away doobie how much you rely on smoking, yet how little you seem to care about getting big harvests. I always wonder if you have forgotten you always run out of herb.
Either you or I are in good company. I just flipped to 12/12 yesterday as well.
And whodat, if you wanna send me some of those packets, I'll do a side by side on the plants I got now... make a video or two even.
It actually makes me forget how bad it is without it, so I just live life like I normally would, which is to say I experiment ("We don't want to THINK, we want to KNOW.") to see the differences in techniques.
But the last three years I've had to continually down-size my grow space, and then with my mom fading away, I was not only distracted, but I kind of didn't want to feel good while she was suffering.
If that makes any sense.
But I'm no longer "distracted", and in a few weeks space will not be an issue.
So getting back to the fundamentals, and growing regular-sized indoor plants from here onward.
My intent is to be able to work up to a point where I can have extra meds to donate.
The Love Tub will be returned across the pond, though it will just have a regular gift with it as a thanks to the faerie who sent it my way, as I'd hate to send herb to a place where it would cause major troubles for the receiver.
And there are a few gifts that need to be sent out to various faeries (you know who you are).
I'm sure I can package as stealthy as the next person, but when I got sent a few things from a few faeries, if it got discovered I have no problems with Probable Deniability, but Oregon is pretty lax in that regard.
Other states, and other countries, are not so forgiving, and I'd hate to find out things went wrong due to the Oregon faerie screwing up, or the odds being against her and things accidentally being found.
whodatnation
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Im with ya, I would feel terrible getting someone in trouble. If I lived in a town near you bes believe you wouldn't run out of herb at anytime.
DoobieBrother
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You're one of The Last of The Good Guys, whodat.
Part of my problem is foolish pride, since I know I have moderate grow skills, I feel I should be able to provide for myself.
When I can't, I keep my mouth shut & suffer as incentive to do better next time.
But sometimes it's just too much.
Thankfully, my current shortage is happening between courses of chemo, so it's tolerable.
And I finally called on a former neighbor who knows a few sources of decent herb.
Not NEARLY as good as mine, or the faeries who sent meds my way.
By a LONG shot.
We do DAMN good work, and we use top notch genetics.
Part of my problem is foolish pride, since I know I have moderate grow skills, I feel I should be able to provide for myself.
When I can't, I keep my mouth shut & suffer as incentive to do better next time.
But sometimes it's just too much.
Thankfully, my current shortage is happening between courses of chemo, so it's tolerable.
And I finally called on a former neighbor who knows a few sources of decent herb.
Not NEARLY as good as mine, or the faeries who sent meds my way.
By a LONG shot.
We do DAMN good work, and we use top notch genetics.
Smoothkicksandsmoke
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Sire I'll see if I can dig up some pics of my setup when I get home. These guys here are always a great help. I've needed it quite a few times. I'd be more than happy to design a logo and offer up ideas for a brand name. The use of a double entendre would help you hit both the veggie gardeners and the can avid growers man. You already got some much support. Just need to identify your barriers to enter the market(s).
whodatnation
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Sometimes we can be our own worst enemies, doobs.... And genetics FTW.
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twin I forgot, you have some background in some kind of art/design classes or something right? Hard to keep up with everyone here!
And thanks for the support everyone I dont get much outside of forum activity, its felt. Been muttering some pitches to myself,, I got some good ideas, I think, for showing just how and why this brew is the best rout to take. Besides documented controlled testing with other products, I think I'll send produce in for lab testing to show how the nutritional value of the food itself is higher than your modern grocery store bought turd in a bag. The saying "you are what you eat" is true and it also applies to our food,,, it is what it eats thus ultimately being the limiting factor for our overall health... Or something along those lines haha.
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twin I forgot, you have some background in some kind of art/design classes or something right? Hard to keep up with everyone here!
And thanks for the support everyone I dont get much outside of forum activity, its felt. Been muttering some pitches to myself,, I got some good ideas, I think, for showing just how and why this brew is the best rout to take. Besides documented controlled testing with other products, I think I'll send produce in for lab testing to show how the nutritional value of the food itself is higher than your modern grocery store bought turd in a bag. The saying "you are what you eat" is true and it also applies to our food,,, it is what it eats thus ultimately being the limiting factor for our overall health... Or something along those lines haha.
Thundercat
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I reallly like the soil builder pack idea.
You were talking about testing your food to show its nutritional value and such. I don't know if you've done any reading on high brix growing, or the whole high brix food movement, but its kinda interesting. They are using a rather simple test to compare nutritional potential of foods, and some guys are applying it to cannabis too. I personally think your organic techniques are already producing fantastic produce(at least it looks like it ). I just thought the high brix thing was neat, and I think the test/tester is simple and might not be expensive. They were talking about people taking them to the grocery store and testing food as they bought it I think.
You were talking about testing your food to show its nutritional value and such. I don't know if you've done any reading on high brix growing, or the whole high brix food movement, but its kinda interesting. They are using a rather simple test to compare nutritional potential of foods, and some guys are applying it to cannabis too. I personally think your organic techniques are already producing fantastic produce(at least it looks like it
). I just thought the high brix thing was neat, and I think the test/tester is simple and might not be expensive. They were talking about people taking them to the grocery store and testing food as they bought it I think.
whodatnation
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Im sure I could write it off as a business expense I'll look into the brix thing.
edit: from what I just read (link below) my veggies and dank should be the brixiest of the brixest lol.
http://www.highbrixgardens.com/victory-gardens/the-path-to-high-brix.html
edit: This I have a problem with though!
"​Tillage
Working the soil has definite benefits and should be part of preparing the land to be used for a high brix garden."
From what I know, tilling is detrimental the soil food web. Id suggest only tilling ONCE in the beginning to mix in lots of organic matter (only suggested for extremely poor ground to begin with) then after that its all top layering and crop rotation with multispecies covercropping! A household doesn't operate too well after being torn apart and mixed up.
I'll look into the brix thing. edit: from what I just read (link below) my veggies and dank should be the brixiest of the brixest lol.
http://www.highbrixgardens.com/victory-gardens/the-path-to-high-brix.html
edit: This I have a problem with though!
"​Tillage
Working the soil has definite benefits and should be part of preparing the land to be used for a high brix garden."
From what I know, tilling is detrimental the soil food web. Id suggest only tilling ONCE in the beginning to mix in lots of organic matter (only suggested for extremely poor ground to begin with) then after that its all top layering and crop rotation with multispecies covercropping! A household doesn't operate too well after being torn apart and mixed up.