The DC Shooter..Aaron Alexis..Contractor Kills 13 at Navy Shipyard..

[echelon1k1]

oh, the horror of it all..the travesty..if only we had known:

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who's laughing now?

Starting a thread as a way of poking fun at the deaths of innocent people is quite sick and puts you down there with the lowest of the low. I know you have a raging clit boner for zimmy and the thought of him giving you a human booster shot must make you quiver with delight...

This is but another example of your "disconnect from reality" and we sure as hell had enough of it in the zimm threads... This thread doesn't deserve one star, but it definitely deserves "ONE BRILLO" and it wouldn't be the first

 

[Auburn1985]

None of the stupid Obama gun laws would have prevented this. He used a legally-purchased shotgun, as advise by the asshole Joe Biden.

 

[NLXSK1]

These are the facts...

These shootings keep happening in places where carrying a weapon is forbidden.

Democrats, namely Bill Clinton passed this law into effect for military bases.

And yet, the liberals and Democrats keep telling us that we just need a law outlawing guns and everything will be ok...

I dont think even they are believing their own bullshit.

The truth is that the Democrat party could not exist if there were not victims. And so the Democrat party works hard to make victims of everyone, in this case by restricting the lawful possession of handguns by the very people we pay to protect us.

Newsflash!! Another law is not going to change anything except to make things worse and people more vulnerable. But that is the Democratic goal.

 

[UncleBuck]

These are the facts...

These shootings keep happening in places where carrying a weapon is forbidden.

Democrats, namely Bill Clinton passed this law into effect for military bases.

And yet, the liberals and Democrats keep telling us that we just need a law outlawing guns and everything will be ok...

I dont think even they are believing their own bullshit.

The truth is that the Democrat party could not exist if there were not victims. And so the Democrat party works hard to make victims of everyone, in this case by restricting the lawful possession of handguns by the very people we pay to protect us.

Newsflash!! Another law is not going to change anything except to make things worse and people more vulnerable. But that is the Democratic goal.

internet gaylord says what?

if carrying a weapon was forbidden, then how did he obtain firearms from several of his victims?

woops, the internet gaylord forgot to account for that. internet gaylords are not good with those pesky, factual details.

such is life.

hey internet gaylord, one thing i've been meaning to ask you: the other day, you said something to the effect of "all you have to do is be half black and all the minorities will vote for you". were you being racist, or are you simply too dumb to realize that minorities vote for the democrat no matter what his/her skin color?

this is the third or fourth time i have asked you about this, and you have failed to respond every time. it's simple: you can either respond that you are dumb, or racist. you can even answer both!

looking forward to your reply, internet gaylord.

 

[Dr Kynes]

These are the facts...

These shootings keep happening in places where carrying a weapon is forbidden.

Democrats, namely Bill Clinton passed this law into effect for military bases.

And yet, the liberals and Democrats keep telling us that we just need a law outlawing guns and everything will be ok...

I dont think even they are believing their own bullshit.

The truth is that the Democrat party could not exist if there were not victims. And so the Democrat party works hard to make victims of everyone, in this case by restricting the lawful possession of handguns by the very people we pay to protect us.

Newsflash!! Another law is not going to change anything except to make things worse and people more vulnerable. But that is the Democratic goal.

actually Bubba issued orders as Commander In Chief that military bases at home and abroud should "de-militarize", reducing the number and visibility of their armed guards. it was part of his Kinder and Gentler military proram

but the policy establishing that off duty personnel are prohibited form carrying arms except under orders is long established.

when billeted, every man was generally ordered to Pile Arms, and those arms were stored in an armoury. except for those doing Duty Under Arms, the rest of the personnel have been disarmed for nearly the entire history of military firearms.

unless the threat of attack is imminent, or theres actual shootin goin on, "Rear Positions" are pretty much disarmed all the time, and have been since the revolution.

the prohibitions on possessing loaded arms in encampment even required that the First Sergeant personally worm the ball of each musket as a guard shift retired, and send the powder and ball to the quartermaster.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=rbc3&fileName=rbc0001_2006batch30726page.db&recNum=127

 

[El Tiberon]

These are the facts...

These shootings keep happening in places where carrying a weapon is forbidden.

Democrats, namely Bill Clinton passed this law into effect for military bases.

And yet, the liberals and Democrats keep telling us that we just need a law outlawing guns and everything will be ok...

I dont think even they are believing their own bullshit.

The truth is that the Democrat party could not exist if there were not victims. And so the Democrat party works hard to make victims of everyone, in this case by restricting the lawful possession of handguns by the very people we pay to protect us.

Newsflash!! Another law is not going to change anything except to make things worse and people more vulnerable. But that is the Democratic goal.

How many shootings happen in Japan each year?

 

[Dr Kynes]

How many shootings happen in Japan each year?

how many shooting happen in switzerland every year?

 

[El Tiberon]

how many shooting happen in switzerland every year?

Does switzerland sentence people to 10 years for simply holding a handgun? No.

Americans are uneducated rednecks. They are not responsible enough to own firearms. Since Americans want to behave like children, they must be treated like children. Take away their toys and send them to their rooms.

The problem is also that Americans are all cowards at heart. They will not fight. They prefer to shoot so they do not face the pain of a good beating. The world will be a better place when their like is gone and their violence and imperialism vanishes with them.

 

[UncleBuck]

how many shooting happen in switzerland every year?

you are aware that switzerland has stricter gun control, and especially bullet control, than we do, right?

 

[Dr Kynes]

you are aware that switzerland has stricter gun control, and especially bullet control, than we do, right?

nope. they have stricter ACCOUNTING of ammunition and arms, but every able bodied person has arms and ammunition in their home as required by law. they are simply not allowed to shoot the Govt's ammo without good cause, and Home Defense (both national and personal) is a valid cause for shootin.

guns are plentiful, government provided ammo is in close proximity to those arms, and yet they do not have nearly the US's crime rate, much less our homicide rate.

and no i am not implying that the proliferation of arms in switzerland is the sole cause of their low crime rate. that would be ridiculous.

the only real restriction on swiss ammo is sport shooting, target shooting and personal ammo which is only sold in shooting clubs, or in conjunction with a valid hunting license.

Protip: any swiss citizen can stroll around with a LOADED automatic weapon on his or her person. as long as the gun isnt used in a crime or fired in the absence of good cause, no crime has been committed.

 

[UncleBuck]

nope. they have stricter ACCOUNTING of ammunition and arms, but every able bodied person has arms and ammunition in their home as required by law. they are simply not allowed to shoot the Govt's ammo without good cause, and Home Defense (both national and personal) is a valid cause for shootin.

guns are plentiful, government provided ammo is in close proximity to those arms, and yet they do not have nearly the US's crime rate, much less our homicide rate.

and no i am not implying that the proliferation of arms in switzerland is the sole cause of their low crime rate. that would be ridiculous.

the only real restriction on swiss ammo is sport shooting, target shooting and personal ammo which is only sold in shooting clubs, or in conjunction with a valid hunting license.

Protip: any swiss citizen can stroll around with a LOADED automatic weapon on his or her person. as long as the gun isnt used in a crime or fired in the absence of good cause, no crime has been committed.

you really should actually crawl in the window in the dark and check the facts on swiss gun laws.

there are so many falsehoods in your (refreshingly not so long winded) statement that it would take me a while to get through all of them.

the swiss have stricter gun control laws than we do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

read and weep.

or, as i know you are wont to do, read and compose long winded diatribe about how reality is not reality, so long as you squint through one eye upside down in the perfect lighting conditions at the height of the vernal equinox.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

you really should actually crawl in the window in the dark and check the facts on swiss gun laws.

there are so many falsehoods in your (refreshingly not so long winded) statement that it would take me a while to get through all of them.

the swiss have stricter gun control laws than we do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland

read and weep.

or, as i know you are wont to do, read and compose long winded diatribe about how reality is not reality, so long as you squint through one eye upside down in the perfect lighting conditions at the height of the vernal equinox.

Here's something for you to fap to while the cat's away in California.

 

[UncleBuck]

Here's something for you to fap to while the cat's away in California.

other nations (such as ours) with "extremely permissive gun laws" do not enjoy the same LOW crime rates.

crime rates are mainly a function of SES, not firearm ownership.

not really fappable anyway.

 

[Dr Kynes]

other nations (such as ours) with "extremely permissive gun laws" do not enjoy the same LOW crime rates.

crime rates are mainly a function of SES, not firearm ownership.

not really fappable anyway.

Move that Goalpost!


no no no, a little more the the left!

 

[UncleBuck]

Move that Goalpost!


no no no, a little more the the left!

my first claim: everything NLXSK was saying was bullshit.

second claim: switzerland has looser gun control than we do.

third claim: crime rates have more to do with SES than gun ownership.

there is nothing incompatible between these three claims. furthermore, none of the claims "move the goalposts" on any other of the claims.*

i did also claim that people who hang curtains for such excessively high wages as muyloco earns should be happier, but that is a matter of personal envy for how easy he earns a living with a similarly rich wife as mine, and nothing else.

what goalpost do you even think i moved, or was this just some stupid ploy at implying that only a leftist would associate crime and SES? explain this mystery to me, normally you are much clearer.

 

[Dr Kynes]

my first claim: everything NLXSK was saying was bullshit. yes, that was your assertion, too bad it's an ad hominem and also untrue

second claim: switzerland has looser gun control than we do. This was NOT your assertion, you clearly and unambiguously declared they had STRICTER gun control laws, then when you actually looked at your wikipedia entry and realized this was wrong, you pretended your previous statement was 180 degrees away from it's actual meaning. and no, it was not a typo, the context is clear, the meaning unmistakable, and the glee which which you posted an unread wikipedia entry to "prove" your claims is simply delicious.

your anticipated victory turned to ashes, and your dreams were the stuff of Pipes.


"the swiss have stricter gun control laws than we do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_pol...in_Switzerland

read and weep." ~ You


third claim: crime rates have more to do with SES than gun ownership. Yes. You said that. After reversing your previous position, you immediately began trying to re-position your claims and directed your energies to a much easier target, Notably, "Socio-Economic Status" which is otherwise known as Moving the Goalposts...

the rest of your screed was worthless. and thus summarily ignored.

 

[UncleBuck]

i see the mistake.

you think i reversed my positions rather than make a stupid.

switzerland does have stricter gun control. i am not sure why i typed "looser" earlier. i am up for 18-22 hours a day nowadays to guard. my mind was working in reverse. who knows.

but switzerland does have stricter gun control than us, although it is still "extremely permissive" as compared to europe in general. not as extremely permissive as ours, but still pretty damn permissive.

despite this minor confusion, point 3 and 1 do remain. you even copied and pasted about how wrong NLXSK was. crime is still more associated with SES than gun ownership, no matter how strict or loose gun stuff is in switzerland.

the rest was not worthless. muyloco may be a bigger idiot than you, but at least he's not hauling min wage like some i know, and your post was indeed a lame attempt (based on a mistake i made, admittedly) at associating the obvious correlation between SES and crime as some kind of leftist plot to take away from your racist manifestos.

 

[NLXSK1]

internet gaylord says what?

if carrying a weapon was forbidden, then how did he obtain firearms from several of his victims?

woops, the internet gaylord forgot to account for that. internet gaylords are not good with those pesky, factual details.

such is life.

hey internet gaylord, one thing i've been meaning to ask you: the other day, you said something to the effect of "all you have to do is be half black and all the minorities will vote for you". were you being racist, or are you simply too dumb to realize that minorities vote for the democrat no matter what his/her skin color?

this is the third or fourth time i have asked you about this, and you have failed to respond every time. it's simple: you can either respond that you are dumb, or racist. you can even answer both!

looking forward to your reply, internet gaylord.

Well, I guess that Obama should make the ban more forceful and prevent all military security and MP's from carrying weapons too!!

I thought you were bright enough to figure out that it is assumed that law enforcement would be allowed to carry anywhere but I guess that is a stretch for you...

Hey, how long do you think it would have taken them to subdue him if they were only allowed to carry tazers??

And why do you keep calling people gay like you think it is a bad thing??

 

[NLXSK1]

i see the mistake.

you think i reversed my positions rather than make a stupid.

switzerland does have stricter gun control. i am not sure why i typed "looser" earlier. i am up for 18-22 hours a day nowadays to guard. my mind was working in reverse. who knows.

but switzerland does have stricter gun control than us, although it is still "extremely permissive" as compared to europe in general. not as extremely permissive as ours, but still pretty damn permissive.

despite this minor confusion, point 3 and 1 do remain. you even copied and pasted about how wrong NLXSK was. crime is still more associated with SES than gun ownership, no matter how strict or loose gun stuff is in switzerland.

the rest was not worthless. muyloco may be a bigger idiot than you, but at least he's not hauling min wage like some i know, and your post was indeed a lame attempt (based on a mistake i made, admittedly) at associating the obvious correlation between SES and crime as some kind of leftist plot to take away from your racist manifestos.

You want to give yourself a pass for making a mistake when you would never do that for another poster? LOL!!! You make me laugh cheesybeard!! Such a fucking hypocrite...

 

[Wavels]

Turns out that the shooter was a Prius driving Buddhist Obama fan.
He never had an AR-15.
He used a shotgun, Uncle Joe Biden's weapon of choice.