A tax analogy, who's really paying their fair share?

[Dr Kynes]

Ask those same people if it is fair to tax their lottery winnings at that amount and they will cry bloody murder defending money they didnt even earn but won by luck...

you forget homey.
all great wealth is either stolen from the prletariate by absconding with the "surplus value of their labour" or acquired through sheer chance (inheriting more coal)

nobody ever actuially INVENTS anything, or builds anything, or creates anything of value, they only exploit what was already there.

cuz we are all exploiters.

every one of us.

except lefties.

lefties use The Magic Of Hypocrisy to make those bad feelings turn into good feelings, and shift the blame for all their troubles onto somebody else.

and if somebody objects to your policies or atated goals, well The Magic Of Hypocrisy can save that day once again, as you transfer all your faults onto the objector, making him even more evil than he was in the first place!

and if The Magic Of Hypocrisy should fail, well theres always The Deeper Mysteries Of Chompskyism to fall back on.

when any word can mean anything you want, and chages it's eaning based on your whim, well, you're always right, always a winner, and alway the smartest guy in the room!
Thanks Noam, your'e the best!

 

[see4]

Okaaaayyyyyyy....prove it!

Unless you are:

Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Alan Bean, Eugene Cernan, Pete Conrad, Charles Duke, James Irwin, Edgar Mitchell, Harrison Schmitt, David Scott, Alan Shepard, John Young.

I've proven it. Unless of course you are one of these fellows. If you are, I'm sure you would not mind sharing who you are. Careful, some of these fellows are dead. Choose wisely.

 

[kelly4]

Unless you are:

Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, Alan Bean, Eugene Cernan, Pete Conrad, Charles Duke, James Irwin, Edgar Mitchell, Harrison Schmitt, David Scott, Alan Shepard, John Young.

I've proven it. Unless of course you are one of these fellows. If you are, I'm sure you would not mind sharing who you are. Careful, some of these fellows are dead. Choose wisely.

I made my own space vessel in my back yard...prove I didn't.

BTW, it's an Addams Family pinball game in perfect working order.

 

[see4]

I made my own space vessel in my back yard...prove I didn't.

BTW, it's an Addams Family pinball game in perfect working order.

That's fucking sweet dude! As completely outrageous as it sounds, I am a person who gives people the benefit of the doubt, so I should believe you. When are you going back? Can you send me the coordinates of the pinball machine so that I can view it in my friend's telescope?

 

[kelly4]

That's fucking sweet dude! As completely outrageous as it sounds, I am a person who gives people the benefit of the doubt, so I should believe you. When are you going back? Can you send me the coordinates of the pinball machine so that I can view it in my friend's telescope?

I would, but the aliens who own the machine are very light sensitive. Thus, the game is always played on the dark side of the moon. Sorry, man.

 

[see4]

I would, but the aliens who own the machine are very light sensitive. Thus, the game is always played on the dark side of the moon. Sorry, man.

Damn. Bummer. Well, I'm sure you will let me know once the aliens leave.

 

[kelly4]

Damn. Bummer. Well, I'm sure you will let me know once the aliens leave.

You betcha, buddy.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

When I ask for a citation I already know the answer. [most of the time]

Funny thing is, he has already proved it by post his pay stub. You people choose to ignore it.

No we haven't.

A pay stub does not say one thing about what you paid in taxes.

It only shows what you have allowed the government to withhold from you until tax time.

 

[see4]

It only shows what you have allowed the government to withhold from you until tax time.

True statement.

A pay stub does not say one thing about what you paid in taxes.

Why doesn't it? If he were to use the W-2 as a means of planning his year end taxes to the "T", one can assume the deduction amount is the percentage taken in taxes. You simply choose not to believe him. Therefore the burden is on you to prove he is lying.

 

[beenthere]

True statement.



Why doesn't it? If he were to use the W-2 as a means of planning his year end taxes to the "T", one can assume the deduction amount is the percentage taken in taxes. You simply choose not to believe him. Therefore the burden is on you to prove he is lying.

So your saying that showing one pay stub for the entire year will give you someones tax rate?

If i told you I made over a $500k last year and promised to take a picture of my tax returns but instead, gave you a monthly profit and loss statement, I proved my claim?

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

True statement.



Why doesn't it? If he were to use the W-2 as a means of planning his year end taxes to the "T", one can assume the deduction amount is the percentage taken in taxes. You simply choose not to believe him. Therefore the burden is on you to prove he is lying.

The only proof of what you actually paid in taxes is your tax return.

Edit:no I won't just believe him. He is a liar and thinks Oregon tax law overrides federal tax law. It does not. The Feds want their money for his treadmill sales.

 

[Dr Kynes]

The only proof of what you actually paid in taxes is your tax return.

Edit:no I won't just believe him. He is a liar and thinks Oregon tax law overrides federal tax law. It does not. The Feds want their money for his treadmill sales.

naturally, since "He Didnt Grow That"

 

[see4]

So your saying that showing one pay stub for the entire year will give you someones tax rate?

If i told you I made over a $500k last year and promised to take a picture of my tax returns but instead, gave you a monthly profit and loss statement, I proved my claim?

If that is what the person is claiming, why would I not believe them? Am I to not believe anything someone tells me? Should I even give a rats ass enough to even care? Why the fuck do you care so much? Is it because you want to suck on his swollen erect penis?

 

[see4]

The only proof of what you actually paid in taxes is your tax return.

Edit:no I won't just believe him. He is a liar and thinks Oregon tax law overrides federal tax law. It does not. The Feds want their money for his treadmill sales.

Ok, I suppose we are at a stalemate. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, and thus far UB has given me no reason to not believe his word. It's actually a fairly neutral claim, yet you people seem to jump all over it as if you all wanted to lick his taint while juggling his balls. Why do you boys care so much? Is this honestly your day's excitement? If so, I really honestly feel sorry for you. You get worked up over nothing, and try to twist something into drama for what? To try to prove your online presence? That's fucking sad.

 

[beenthere]

If that is what the person is claiming, why would I not believe them? Am I to not believe anything someone tells me? Should I even give a rats ass enough to even care? Why the fuck do you care so much? Is it because you want to suck on his swollen erect penis?

This was my OP, Unclebuck was the one jumping in here making all the claims, we just told him to cite it, like you guys tell us all the time. It's looking like he can't do that, huh?

 

[beenthere]

Ok, I suppose I'm at checkmate. That's fucking sad.

That's more like it, take your ass whooping like a man.

 

[see4]

That's more like it, take your ass whooping like a man.

In your own little mind bud. How's your million dollar business going?

 

[UncleBuck]

i just got back to oregon to harvest but decided i needed something to give me an erection first.

this thread has indeed provided me with the erection i so desired.

would anyone like to see my erection?

 

[beenthere]

i just got back to oregon to harvest but decided i needed something to give me an erection first.

this thread has indeed provided me with the erection i so desired.

would anyone like to see my erection?

Nah dude, we want to see that tax return you said you'd post.
It must suck for you to be caught in a lie.

 

[see4]

Nah dude, we want to see that tax return you said you'd post.
It must suck for you to be caught in a lie.

We are still waiting on evidence of your million dollar business.