I sincerely apologize schuylaar - thank the trolls.

Red1966

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Progs like UncleBuck, Schuylarr, Cheezy and a few others, think that posting a link proves their point. It's all about optics to them, what they're really doing is, hoping no one actually reads the article they linked.
Posting links is safer. He posted a graph to "prove" only FOX covered a story, so it must have been a "right winger lie". The graph showed EVERY national network had covered it, just not as much as FOX.
 

Red1966

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walmart..they even have it at my school and a traveling state person streamlines your interview and benefits.. EDIT: this is NOT a new practice..just well hidden.
You go to school at Walmart? Well hidden? They only told 3 million Walmart employees, plus, apparently all the students at Walmart High.
 

schuylaar

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[h=3]Wages[/h] The activist group Los Angeles Alliance for a New Economy (LAANE) said "in 2006 Walmart reports that full-time hourly associates received, on average, $10.11 an hour." LAANE further calculated that working 34 hours per week an Walmart employee earns $17,874 per year which is roughly twenty percent less than the average retail worker. (The number of hours the "average retail worker" worked was not specified.) The report from LAANE further opines that this pay is "over $10,000 less than what the average two-person family needs."[SUP][42][/SUP] Walmart managers are judged, in part, based on their ability to control payroll costs. The wall Street journal claims this puts extra pressure on higher-paid workers to be more productive.[SUP][43][/SUP] Walmart insists its wages are generally in line with the current local market in retail labor.[SUP][44][/SUP]
Other critics have noted that in 2001, the average wage for a Walmart Sales Clerk was $8.23 per hour, or $13,861 a year, while the federal poverty line for a family of three was $14,630.[SUP][45][/SUP] Walmart founder Sam Walton once said, "I pay low wages. I can take advantage of that. We're going to be successful, but the basis is a very low-wage, low-benefit model of employment."[SUP][46][/SUP]
In August 2006, Walmart announced that it would roll out an average pay increase of 6% for all new hires at 1,200 U.S. Walmart and Sam's Club locations, but at the same time would institute pay caps on veteran workers.[SUP][47][/SUP] While Walmart maintains that the measures are necessary to stay competitive, critics believe that the salary caps are primarily an effort to push higher-paid veteran workers out of the company.[SUP][47][/SUP]
In 2008, Walmart agreed to pay at least $352 million to settle lawsuits claiming that it forced employees to work off the clock. "Several lawyers described it as the largest settlement ever for lawsuits over wage violations."[SUP][48][/SUP]
Because Walmart employs part-time and relatively low paid workers, some workers may partially qualify for state welfare programs. This has led critics to claim that Walmart increases the burden on taxpayer-funded services.[SUP][49][/SUP][SUP][50][/SUP] A 2002 survey by the state of Georgia's subsidized healthcare system, PeachCare, found that Walmart was the largest private employer of parents of children enrolled in its program; one quarter of the employees of Georgia Walmarts qualified to enroll their children in the federal subsidized healthcare system Medicaid.[SUP][51][/SUP] A 2004 study at the University of California, Berkeley charges that Walmart's low wages and benefits are insufficient, and although decreasing the burden on the social safety net to some extent, California taxpayers still pay $86 million a year to Walmart employees.[SUP][52][/SUP][SUP][53][/SUP]
On September 4, 2008, the Mexican Supreme Court of Justice ruled that Wal-Mart de Mexico, the Mexican subsidiary of Walmart, must cease paying its employees in part with vouchers redeemable only at Wal-Mart stores.[SUP][54][/SUP]


[h=3]Working conditions[/h] Walmart has also faced accusations involving poor working conditions for its employees. For example, a 2005 class action lawsuit in Missouri asserted approximately 160,000 to 200,000 people who were forced to work off-the-clock, were denied overtime pay, or were not allowed to take rest and lunch breaks.[SUP][55][/SUP] In 2000, Walmart paid $50 million to settle a class-action suit that asserted that 69,000 current and former Walmart employees in Colorado had been forced to work off-the-clock.[SUP][55][/SUP] The company has also faced similar lawsuits in other states, including Pennsylvania,[SUP][56][/SUP] Oregon, and [SUP][57][/SUP] Minnesota.[SUP][58][/SUP] Class-action suits were also filed in 1995 on behalf of full-time Walmart pharmacists whose base salaries and working hours were reduced as sales declined, resulting in the pharmacists being treated like hourly employees.[SUP][59][/SUP]
Walmart has also been accused of ethical problems. It is said that the Walmart employees are gender discriminated during the hiring process and discriminated against in the work area. Wal-Mart v. Dukes was a discrimination case on behalf of more than 1.5 million current and former female employees of Walmart’s 3,400 stores across the United States. (9th circuit 2007) Dr. William Bliebly who evaluated Walmart’s employment policies "against what social science research shows to be factors that create and sustain bias and those that minimize bias” (Bliebly) and he finished by saying, the men and women not being created equal in the workforce is what Walmart is doing and what they should essentially not be doing.
On October 16, 2006, approximately 200 workers on the morning shift at a Walmart Super Center in Hialeah Gardens, Florida walked out in protest against new store policies and rallied outside the store, shouting "We want justice" and criticizing the company's recent policies as "inhuman."[SUP][60][/SUP] This marks the first time that Walmart had faced a worker-led revolt of such scale, according to both employees and the company.[SUP][60][/SUP] Reasons for the revolt included cutting full-time hours, a new attendance policy, and pay caps that the company imposed in August 2006, compelling workers to be available to work any shift (day, swing or night), and that shifts would be assigned by computers at corporate headquarters and not by local managers. Walmart quickly held talks with the workers, addressing their concerns.[SUP][60][/SUP] Walmart asserts that its policy permits associates to air grievances without fear of retaliation.[SUP][61][/SUP]
A 2004 report by U.S. Representative George Miller alleged that in ten percent of Walmart's stores, nighttime employees were locked inside, holding them prisoner.[SUP][62][/SUP] There has been some concern that Walmart's policy of locking its nighttime employees in the building has been implicated in a longer response time to dealing with various employee emergencies, or weather conditions such as hurricanes in Florida.[SUP][63][/SUP] Walmart said this policy was to protect the workers and the store's contents in high-crime areas and acknowledges that some employees were inconvenienced in some instances for up to an hour as they had trouble locating a manager with the key. However, fire officials confirm that at no time were fire exits locked or employees blocked from escape. Walmart has advised all stores to ensure the door keys are available on site at all times.[SUP][63][/SUP]
In January 2004, The New York Times reported on an internal Walmart audit, conducted in July 2000, which examined one week's time-clock records for roughly 25,000 employees.[SUP][64][/SUP] According to the Times, the audit, "pointed to extensive violations of child-labor laws and state regulations requiring time for breaks and meals," including 1,371 instances of minors working too late, during school hours, or for too many hours in a day.[SUP][64][/SUP] There were 60,767 missed breaks and 15,705 lost meal times.[SUP][64][/SUP] Walmart’s vice president for communications responded that company auditors had determined that the methodology used by The NY Times was flawed, and the company "did not respond to it in any way internally."[SUP][64][/SUP]
Walmart has been accused of allowing undocumented workers to work in its stores. In one case, federal investigators say Walmart executives knew that contractors were using undocumented workers as they had been helping the federal government with an investigation for the previous three years.[SUP][65][/SUP] Some critics said that Walmart directly hired undocumented workers, while Walmart claims they were employed by contractors who won bids to work for Walmart.[SUP][66][/SUP]
On October 23, 2003, federal agents raided 61 Walmart stores in 21 U.S. states in a crackdown known as "Operation Rollback", resulting in the arrests of 250 nightshift janitors who were undocumented.[SUP][67][/SUP] Following the arrests, a grand jury convened to consider charging Walmart executives with labor racketeering crimes for knowingly allowing undocumented workers to work at their stores.[SUP][67][/SUP] The workers themselves were employed by agencies Walmart contracted with for cleaning services.[SUP][67][/SUP] Walmart blamed the contractors, but federal investigators point to wiretapped conversations showing that executives knew some workers did not have the correct documentation.[SUP][67][/SUP] The October 2003 raid was not the first time Walmart was found using unauthorized workers. Earlier raids in 1998 and 2001 resulted in the arrests of 100 workers without documentation located at Walmart stores around the country.[SUP][68][/SUP]
In November 2005, 125 alleged undocumented workers were arrested while working on construction of a new Walmart distribution center in eastern Pennsylvania.[SUP][69][/SUP] According to Walmart, the workers were employees of Walmart's construction subcontractor.

[video=youtube;2wo2lcd3BaI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wo2lcd3BaI[/video]
 

Red1966

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didn't bucky already link a company here after you first requested it?
My employer has links on their web site on how to apply for SNAP and welfare. Also, student loans, suicide prevention, smoking cessation, disability, social security, food banks and a bunch of other social services. They call that "Community Service".
 

desert dude

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My employer has links on their web site on how to apply for SNAP and welfare. Also, student loans, suicide prevention, smoking cessation, disability, social security, food banks and a bunch of other social services. They call that "Community Service".
The progs call it a conspiracy by the Koch brothers!
 

Red1966

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I saw in a quote in post #203 Buckhead saying Walmart forces everyone else to pay, completely ignoring that HE voted to force everyone else to pay. Walmart isn't forcing anyone to do shit.
 

kpmarine

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I saw in a quote Buckhead saying Walmart forces everyone else to pay, completely ignoring that HE voted to force everyone else to pay. Walmart isn't forcing anyone to do shit.
Wal Mart pays wages that require people to use taxpayer funded services to make ends meet. Those services weren't placed there so Wal Mart could pay people less than a living wage. Wal Mart is exploiting these services to it's benefit. So "Wal Mart forces everyone else to pay" seems pretty accurate.
 

UncleBuck

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I saw in a quote in post #203 Buckhead saying Walmart forces everyone else to pay, completely ignoring that HE voted to force everyone else to pay. Walmart isn't forcing anyone to do shit.
actuallly, walmart was never mentioned anywhere in that quote.

and since i vote with my dollars and have been boycotting both mcdonalds and walmart for some time now, i fail to see your point.

try again, bitter ol' red.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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[video=youtube;ni50KannjpM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni50KannjpM[/video]

McDonald's is finally getting real about helping its workers get by. The company has moved past the fake budget that includes a second job and allocates just $20 a month for health insurance. Nope, now McDonald's is giving workers the real secret to survival on McDonald's wages: government assistance. Chicago McDonald's worker Nancy Salgado—a single mother, 10-year McDonald's employee making the state minimum wage of $8.25, and activist who has twice joined one-day strikes for higher wages—called the "McResources" 1-800 number:
The McResources staffer offers her a number to “ask about things like food pantries” and tells her she “would most likely be eligible for SNAP benefits” which she explains are “food stamps.” After Salgado asks about “the doctor,” the staffer asks, “Did you try to get on Medicaid?” She notes it’s “health coverage for low income or no income adults and children.” [...] In the full, fifteen-minute audio, which was provided to Salon by the campaign, the McResources counselor can also be heard telling Salgado she “definitely should be able to qualify for both food stamps and heating assistance.” She tells Salgado that having food stamps “takes a lot of the pressure off how much money you spend on groceries.” She also tells Salgado she may possibly qualify for Medicaid, though “I wouldn’t want to get your hopes up.”
McDonald's answer to living on $8.25 an hour: food stamps. Also heating assistance. And maybe Medicaid. This is totally realistic and in fact what makes survival on $8.25 an hour possible for most people. But could it possibly highlight more perfectly the reliance of the fast food industry on government assistance to subsidize poverty wages? It's basically a straight-up admission from McDonald's that the highly profitable company knows it isn't paying workers enough to live on and is looking to taxpayers to make that possible while keeping profits high and prices low. This has got to be one of the most f'ed up, corrupt kinds of capitalism imaginable: companies padding their profits by pushing their workers onto public assistance. And it's a feature, not a bug.
So for every person who worries what would happen to the price of their Big Mac if McDonald's had to pay a living wage, there should be a couple who'd be saving by not having to subsidize the other guy's cheap hamburger and McDonald's high profits. I'd mention the benefit to workers and to the basic value that work should pay enough to live on, but let's be real: Those things obviously don't matter to McDonald's.
So a help line where they are directed to government programs that the individual is responsible for taking care of and NOT a McDonald's employee signing someone up as you claimed.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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I thought foodstamps were a-ok in their book.

I guess not.

The companies are not signing anyone up. They offer direction.

Edit: yelling something irrelevant to the conversation doesn't make you less wrong.
 

Red1966

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Wal Mart pays wages that require people to use taxpayer funded services to make ends meet. Those services weren't placed there so Wal Mart could pay people less than a living wage. Wal Mart is exploiting these services to it's benefit. So "Wal Mart forces everyone else to pay" seems pretty accurate.
Libtards like YOU voted for those tax payer funded services. Not Walmart. So "Libtards force everyone else to pay" is accurate. Don't blame them for what YOU did.
 

UncleBuck

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Libtards like YOU voted for those tax payer funded services. Not Walmart. So "Libtards force everyone else to pay" is accurate. Don't blame them for what YOU did.
food stamps: completely bipartisan bill.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/95-1977/s169

heating: signed into law by reagan in 1984.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Income_Home_Energy_Assistance_Program

medicaid: also completely bipartisan

http://www.ssa.gov/history/tally65.html

fellate me and make me pancakes now.
 

Harrekin

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they direct their employees to get the bare minimum subsistence they need from you and me, rather than the people who they work for.

and you thought that burger only cost $0.99. think again.
McDonalds is seriously bottom rung, nobody expects to be driving a Lamborghini working as a fry-cook (well except Libtards with their all consuming sense of entitlement).

If they don't like being a minimum wage, barely trained, monkey equivalent then they should up-skill and just gtfo of there.
 

UncleBuck

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McDonalds is seriously bottom rung, nobody expects to be driving a Lamborghini working as a fry-cook (well except Libtards with their all consuming sense of entitlement).

If they don't like being a minimum wage, barely trained, monkey equivalent then they should up-skill and just gtfo of there.
how should they do so?

how do you propose that someone who works full time yet needs food stamps be able to afford community college, trade school, or university? moreover, where do they get the time while working full time just to not make ends meet?

furthermore, what happens when all the fry cooks bootstrap themselves up to astronauts, engineers, and basket weavers? who will cook our fries for the minimum wage that everyone is too educated to accept?

think it through, smarty.
 
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