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The biggest reason to look hard at LED for growing is because you could end up sounding like DNR. No one really wants to look out of touch and clueless on any subject, so educate yourself, build a light or buy a quality pre made one. Notice no one goes from the high end diy LED builds BACK to HPS.

correct =)

Maybe so, he's simply going out of his way to hide any knowledge in this thread.

I don't think you make people angry, it's more like this is a place to learn about LED and how to make the best LED's for growing and you seem like you are against learning anything and enjoy proving you know exceptionally little about the subject. I'm not trying to insult you as I have never...

I'd say more like 600watts of LED is equal to 100watts HPS. You have to realize that it's about the quality of the parts, a COB or chip of led is like a bulb, you can have a super cheap garbage bulb/cob/diode or you can have super high end. There are VERY few commercial companies using top end...

You have quickly become someone that can't be taken seriously. Most commercial growers know very little about lights, they seem to be as educated on the subject and well... you...

You have quickly become someone that can't be taken seriously. Most commercial growers know very little about lights, they seem to be as educated on the subject and well... you...

For the record I said 50-60% wattage... So I agree bullshit on something I never said =) but yes 40-50% would be unrealistic, but you could still do a great grow. This thread is falling off topic. To the OP, if you want to grow LED then buy high end lights that use high end chips/cobs. Don't...

Your words, direct quote, I don't understand haha. However what you just wrote I clearly understand and I agree =) "this is part of the problem, may 75-80% of the watts. unrealistic claim."

What?

Ok, thank you. To be fair I said that you will need to replace the reflector was all, I didn't give a time line. So I am still right. I'm also right that the best HPS lights still cost more per 4x4 than my lights to build and mine are near twice as good considering the grows are the same and I...

I don't understand your lingo... Are you saying I don't sound full of chit or that I'm in the grow of people that claim LED grow full on better weed fo dayz?

What? Is trolling allowed on these boards?

I'm sorry... did you look at my stuff? First thing is first, any grower knows genetics is by far the most important. If the genetics won't allow big yields or high THC/CBD then no matter who grows it, it won't be "competitive." If you are getting big yields with your lights, it's no so much...

I was going to mention the laziness of running a bulb at 1000+ watts for a whole year.

I have grown with metallic induction, HPS single ended, Double ended, Store bought LED, home made cob led, home made LM561c s6 LED and florescent all inside of 2 years of growing. Feel free to look at my sig (instagram) for my finished stuff. When I show my stuff to other growers in person they...

I'm sorry, you plan to spend 4,000$ on 2 mid ranger led lights??? Almost makes me want to look at selling my lights for half the cost and better parts.

Thx Vegas! And thanks for your input.