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Im born & raised in california. Ill be the first to say my state is a piece of shit....& the majority of the people in are also....lol

I know.....sucks ass really.... Priblem is all people hear is "legal weed".....but fail to read the "small print" on anything.

That blows....i vote no on recreation. Keep it medical.

So these are better than standard led?

Im new to indoor...even newer to led so forgive me when i ask.......what is cob?

Ill be running 3x 1600 (really 800w) in a 5x10 apollo tent, using a 4x8 flood table. Not sure if i want to run 32x 3 gal pots or 50x 2 gallon pots....

Are the mars brand really that sub par? Reason i went with these is because i was reading a thread that stated by a few that these mars system actually out performed the black dog brand...

Well....the initial reasoning was fir energy conservation & less heat regulation..... With 3 800w units....ill still be running in comparison of 2x 1000w & 1x 400w...... Im going to hit that damn gram per watt! Lol

These are what i have comming. Just ordered 3 of them. At first i was thinkin it was a smart buy & i was gonna rock shit......now im gettin the feeling ill just be rockin....shit.....lol

I would imagine this bejng a large factor too.

So go 4 the biggest freakin led system i can find?

I also took into consideration the temperature issue & the electricity it would cost to regulate the heat with hid vs what id be saving with the led route. I live in a house that has minor electrical issues, i figured HID would be a lot more hard on my electricity vs LED.......so i went LED...

Might be 800 watt. Theyre not here yet.

Actually.....i was being serious i just invested in 3x 700w mars LED systems because 2 different grow shops advised my yields would be higher...

Wait.....so led DOESNT yeild as much as hid?

That miracle grow wouldnt come within 10 ft of my garden...lol

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I was just thinkin.....a photo album for shatter. Almost like an old cd case with a insert sleave but still has room for a display profile (like the size of an album cover). Just insert your parchment/shatter behind it. Almost as if it a "shatter library" or "album" if you will..... Shit, this...

Yeah go ahead & plant some seeds rite now & let me know what u get

Screw the autoflower....unless your growing in a shitty state with a short season.if your in CA find you a nice cut of blue dream, green crack,sour d' white widow, ect....& do a few of them. If you invest & play your cards rite you could walk away with a couple elbows at the end of harvest.