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There is a correlation between smoking and cancer but the tobacco industry wouldn't acknowledge a causal link. The same trick is employed by the gun lobby group

I understand your view on an intellectual level but how does that sit with More guns = more gun crime?

bravo for bringing up the gold standard, the consequences of which can not be over stated. Oversight on my behalf. I know fuck all about baseball though. Why couldn't you guys just get down with cricket?

oh wow. Thank you, you have genuinely made me think about my position. Ok, I don't think that is an example of brainwashing (although I may be missing an angle I haven't already considered) but I do think it challenges my views on armed police. I will attempt to answer but first, why do...

weed is slightly different, that can be homegrown. The war on drugs ensured control and supply to the cia

I think you will find I said 'gun availability' and 'gun violence' are directly related. guns are widely available in the places you mention

...any 'first world' nations?

And why do you foot the bill for NATO? You outspend the world on 'defence' NATOs latest (attempted) line of 'defence' was Ukraine Fucking dumb and provocative. Would the allies have won without you? Possibly. Russia won that European battle. Not us, not You! Stalin begged you (and us) to...

Enlightening thread, ty

I see your point. To me they were a mistake from where the world is to where I'd like to see it. ...but some of these have been V profitable for America in terms of finance and power. For me, it's a mistake to prioritise these things but you make a valid point

ok bravedave, and I'd V much like this to be a discussion as opposed to a name calling pissing contest (I'm not pre judging you mate but I'm sure you've met those types on here) Who have you defended?

I find this post disturbing. The power of the media eh!

I think the question is exceedingly valid. Both our nations bomb others in the name of democracy. This lacks legitimacy as we do not practice what we preach. If I had to criticise the OP, for me, it's a bigger question than to frame it within the context of one nations sham election

And then there's south America...USA has behaved like a right horrible cunt for some time

but MK Ultra...not top of list but WTF!!! Oh yeah, that forced sterilisation programme wasn't good either, it gave a certain Austrian with a shit mustache ideas

A GREAT thread As Vostok alludes to, so many to choose from. If I may, I'd like to expand the parameters slightly as my Number 1 pre dates 50 years. Operation Ajax. That opened a can of worms that are still wriggling away today, including (one can make a case for) both Iraq wars.

Like Rollitup, I also find no threat in any of the above. If I lived in USA I'd probably go pigs also from all I read. I genuinely don't feel threatened by anyone. (but our police aren't armed, I have been handcuffed and then beaten to a pulp by our police so if they had guns....) So in the...

I wasn't judging, I said 'if people were to get their impressions from...' I have relatives over there, I been many times, I KNOW these people aren't representative of all america. Just highlighting how ridiculous and purple the comments of some are. Purple, lol, puerile

oh ok, unaware. ty

If anyone got their impression of Americans from the political forums online, what would they think of you!?! Seriously ridiculous behaviour