1st attempt at QWISO

Here's my first try at making QWISO. I used 1oz. Of GSC popcorn. Two washes with 99%: 1st 45sec. swirling, 2nd 45sec. light shaking. 1st yielded 1g, 2nd 2g. Havent tried it yet but it smells just like the popcorn; good. Can I store it by wrapping it in parchment paper then sealing in a airtight container? How's it look? I don't know much about this stuff. The 1st run is the lighter colored, looks like sticky peanut butter, 2nd run is darker amber colored. Also what's a good way to smoke this stuff? I have an Ecig, should I get a glass dome attachment? Can I smoke it straight in a pipe with metal screens or will it just melt through? The 1st run I can actually handle the 2nd is very sticky. Should I freeze the 2nd to make it easier to handle or can I whip it or something? Thanks.

Looks a tad dark, most likely due to longer wash.

I only do 20sec swirls. 30sec max including the time it took to pour in iso.

Doesnt look bad at all tho. nice amber. What way did you evap?

i keep all of mine just in parch paper in a cig box wit no problems so far.

Id go with the Ecig and the dome attachment. Works really well but id get more than one because the nature of waxes becoming sticky when heated causes things to well... stick and ive broken a few coils on accident tryint to load up the next hit and my dabber gets stuck to the coil and pop!

I used viking vapes because theyre about the cheapest and the exact same quality as 99% of them out there. They just dont charge so much for doing the hard part and gettin them all shipped from china. haha

Looks like some pretty good stuff though!

I did some not so quick wash iso with the left over HOG trim i had and it turned out amazing. Let it soak a about 2 minutes in the freezer IN A SEALED CONTAINER!!!This was after leaving both the trim and the alcohol for a few days in the freezer. But i dewaxed it so the coffee filter helped catch alot of the excess i didnt want in there from the slightly longer wash. Then after i scraped it all i used my little hand vacuum pump, a candle warmer, my mini slick pad, and a mason jar vacuum chamber and did a low heat long vac purge.

Ended up makin iso shatter! Its super stable, i dunk with it all day. Didnt even expect it to but its the best tasting iso ive ever made by far. No sizzle on a nail and pure flavor. Came out darker but see through as can be!

Nice results!

Another option would be to take that QWISO and mix it with USP grade PG, then you can use that mix in any standard clearomizer like an iClear16 or 16b or iClear30 or 30b are my personal prefernces.

I've never tried the globes or putting the hash directly on a heating element, too messy and inefficient if you ask me.

I evaped outside (very low humidity) with a fan blowing on it and cheesecloth over top. After most had evaped I brought inside and continued evaping with a fan. I started making it at 10am yesterday and scraped it this AM. I like the consistency of the 1st wash but 2nd is hard to handle- pretty sticky. Is there something I could do easily to make it easier to handle? Maybe whip it or freeze it? Also should I leave it out to dry some more? It isn't wet but I thought it might take some of the stickiness out of it.

Dragon311 said:

Another option would be to take that QWISO and mix it with USP grade PG, then you can use that mix in any standard clearomizer like an iClear16 or 16b or iClear30 or 30b are my personal prefernces.

I've never tried the globes or putting the hash directly on a heating element, too messy and inefficient if you ask me.

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I never liked PG juice. Dilutes the oil and your constantly chasing a big rip. But I am a dabs guy...

Worst is the rempen cartridge, those taste sickenly sweet like antifreeze.

break it up into chunks or spread it as flat as possible and dry it out.

I have a toaster over that you can set to warm and it makes the top of it a perfect 110-130 so i put a cooking rack on top and my slick pad or reynolds parchment and place it on top. The rising heat makes it a perfect 110-120 and sits there. I just left it like that for a few hours and noticed it helped alot. Id usually do it for a half hour or so before i vac'd it so itd get it nice and gooey to help me pull shitout of it.

Also, glass globes are the shit! I agree glycerin is nasty!

I will not be able to vac this but I do have some Everclear. Would it be worth it to wash it with the EC? If so, how would I do this? Heat up the EC, dissolve the QWISO in it, then filter through coffee filters?

You dont need to vac it or redissolve it.

Just throw it on something warm enough to liquify it. Like i was talkin about my toaster oven or a candle melter thing. A pancake griddle if you have it or a stove if you can set the temp really low and do a double boiler type thing without the water getting into it.

You can also lay it out flat and put it in a wooden box or freezer and it will help pull excess moisture out but loose some flava.

I just put the 2nd wash in a convection toaster oven at 150F and left the door open a little. It melted flat with a couple tiny bubbles. I then put in the freezer and it came out brittle but my body heat softens it up fast. I folded it up in parchment paper and sealed in a airtight container until I use it. Will this be OK? Sorry if some questions seem silly, I've read alot about QWISO but as usual I see many different opinions. How long will it keep like this? Is there a better way to store it for long term and waht about storingfor short term?

BWG707 said:

I just put the 2nd wash in a convection toaster oven at 150F and left the door open a little. It melted flat with a couple tiny bubbles. I then put in the freezer and it came out brittle but my body heat softens it up fast. I folded it up in parchment paper and sealed in a airtight container until I use it. Will this be OK? Sorry if some questions seem silly, I've read alot about QWISO but as usual I see many different opinions. How long will it keep like this? Is there a better way to store it for long term and waht about storingfor short term?

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Set the toaster to 150 and if its got a top put rack on top and set the hash on that. Leave it there for a few hours or as long as possible without over heating it and it will eventually start to shatter. Thats how you know youve dried it out enough, once body heat stops making it goop back up.


I had made a bunch of bho a few days after i made the iso so i smoked most of the wax quicker and just played with the iso everyday while i was waiting. Re heated and re vacuumed since it was hand pumped i figured the more the better. A few days in it shattered and wouldnt stick to my hand at all unless i rubbed them to make them really hot.

DUNKS ALL DAY! haha Just keep it on top of the toaster oven for as long as possible and monitor temps. I wouldnt recommend putting it back into the toaster over since its probably too hot and leaving the door open might only make it hotter since its trying to reach a specific temperature so at the beginning the heating elements are hotter than 150 and by the end theyre cooler than 150 and kick back on to restore the temp.

Either way youre good. Just the higher the heat the more terpines and such get broken down.

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I never liked PG juice. Dilutes the oil and your constantly chasing a big rip. But I am a dabs guy...

Worst is the rempen cartridge, those taste sickenly sweet like antifreeze.

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It works very well for me, but to each their own. PG won't produce a "huge vape cloud" but you don't need it to either. The one that's given me the best hits is an Innokin SVD, great for home usage, not very stealth like though. For stealth pen style with rebuildable clearomizers are the way to go. The juices I've made you can feel in one hit, so its potent for sure.

I admit though even though I've made QWISO I've never dabbed it.

For your first attempt that looks good. Now keep going making small tweeks along the way. Then once YOU are happy with the end product make it that way all the time. Lots of trial and error

Yes, my 1st attempt was a learning trial that actually came out pretty good as far I as can tell. I've already started to re-think my process and further refine it. That's why I only ran 1oz. My 1st wash has a consistency that I like but I know it could be a lot better. I keep thinking of ways to improve my tek with what I have to work with. My biggest problem is that I can only do the the initial evape outdoors, so everything is weather dependant. Im thinking about looking into using Everclear, still need to do a lot of reading on it. I have ordered a glass globe atomizer for my Ecig. From what I've heard it's one of the better ways to smoke QWISO. I owe this forum some credit for all the help members here have passed on to me. I love variety and QWISO will add to that. I'm just grateful that I've had an opportunity to now produce my own meds.

You can try dewaxing after you get your tech down. Or do some BHO. Once you throw it on a hot plate or hot water under it it evaps in minutes so it would limit your time being outdoor.

Possibley run smaller quantity washes too.

maybe take that oz and split to 1/4 and do 1/4 wash at a time. Then you can do at least 3 washes off the 1/4. I do 1/4 at a time and combine washes 1and2 then 3and4 together to make 2 larger ending yields.

you could even go to extent of setting it up to 1/4 each. do 1st wash for each 1/4 batch, then put all those together in a pyrex and evap. Then repeat for a 2nd and 3rd for each batch.

Freeze everthing, except the mixing jar. It frosts up and gets slippery fast once it hits room temp if you do. I dropped my damn jar and everthing in it one nite cause it was so frosted.

Quick 20sec or so washes should get you nice clear/lightlight yellow runs. DONT Vigorously shake the jar either. light swirls.

I'm noob to making qw too. My latest attempt came out pretty well.

Still lookin for pointers and whatnot. Right now I'm trying to figure out if its worth "cleaning" somehow...

I want to just mix all of my good runs together into one consistent slab once I'm done with all this popcorn, and as said I wouldn't mind an easy way to get some of the "speckle" out of it. By that I mean some of my previous stuff looks like it has dark speckels thru it when held up to a light, I think it's partially stuff that needs to be kneed better but also stuff that didn't get filtered out well.

I don't care so much about making the most pure THC extract, in fact I prefer the other goodies intact, but I don't want particulates.

Sorry if this is sort of a highjack, but thanks for any advice!!!


As for the methods I've been following...

I see a lot of people say to swirl it... I just start counting as I pour in the ipa, quickly cap it, shake the shit out of it and at 25 seconds remove the cap, put on my mesh cap, pour into my vacuum funnel filter deal, and let the iso drain out maybe another 30 seconds with a few light shakes to break up the clumps.

I've been I freeze everything, evap with a fan blowing directly on/over it. I haven't been using any heat other than from my hands to kneed it after scraping.

I've gotten mostly hard amber taffy doing this, the most recent being the "cleanest". I also ran some pressed kief and some loose keif, obv broke up it up first. Started with all clean glass and ran the pressed stuff first which came out to a dark amber that hardened pretty good, didn't clean the glass and ran a bunch of loose keif and that came out to about the same color but more waxy.

PS> I wear these black powder free gloves to keep my fingers from getting super cold, might help with the slipperiness, hehe.

Yeah i use nitrile gloves too and i tihnk they just got too slippery lol

Specs in your product sound like maybe when you did the pour some jumped to the evap dish. ive had that happen before. oh well. lol

From what ive read, the act of swirling is to keep the chloropyll to a minimum or none while extracting. shaking just vigorously helps the ISO get into that plant and start pulling out the unwanted stuff. With swirling, you just getting that iso to pull the trichs off and nothing else( or minimally). when i do swirl at 20sec, my filter end result is SUPER LIGHT YELLOW. sometimes batch 1 is almost even clear = pure thc extract , no bad shit.

Then i usually put 2 washes together after filtering to get a slightly larger end result then doing them alone. could put more together if wanted but 3/4 washes started to get more yellow tho the end result was a nice light yellow bend n snap.

heres pics of my last rundown. this is of the 1/2washes combined and evaped. lighting makes it look darker but its actually super light and see thru.

Yea, I'm def not getting that hard glass, I call it hard taffy, hehe, its translucent and brittle when pressed flat and will break, but doesn't have that super clear and hard snap.

Swirling makes since. I'll give it a few goes here soon. I'm using somewhat dense nugs and not chopping up very much. Maybe I'll try a lil more grind with your method.

yeah that stuff in pic is actually pretty taffy. I can mold whatever hit i want in fingers and put on dabber, which i love!

Let me know how it goes dude. I used dense stuffb efore too. i just break it up a bit more. maybe to like size of marbles or so if its dense. ISO will still get all the good stuff inside.

From all my research before trying qwiso it was imparative to not shake. shake = crappy looking stuff. Also check out _Oakley thread on here. he does a pour thru method with a oz of popcorn as his method. Tho he only does 1 run and discards the weed. I feel like thre always more trapped in there so i like doing the swirl method, and at least get about 4 runs out of it. ( using HQ stuff of course. lots of visible trich/keif)

keep me posted dude! I may make a new run next week.