250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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HobbyGrower72
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That's a loaded question. Ask 10 people, you might get 10 answers. I've had success with both de-fol and leaving the plant as it is. Fan leaves are producers, not consumers. That has always influenced my decision to trim. Whether you trim or not is entirely up to you. I'm guessing your going to get someone saying airflow, reduced risk of PM and mold, others that will say opening yourself up to issues.
Do what you feel is right. Experience is the best teacher.
Doobieus
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It will die off and fall off itself, when it's ready honestly. Try to keep any stress minimal, considering you're in bloom. If you're not noticing any mold, mildew, defects, etc. then leave it as is.Getting too crowded underneath? Should I be thinning this out at all?
Filling in a bit..
Grazz
Doobieus
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I could not agree more myself.
Grazzmon
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Thanks Grower, Doobs,
I will let nature take it's course. Since I have the cab setup to draw from the bottom I don't think airflow will be a problem and even as thick as it looks there is still a good bit of light getting through and probably a good bit more when the door is closed.
I totally agree with that, it's the way I have learned everything..
Grazz
SmeLLyTreeZ
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Grazz bro I like your setup! Very similar to mine! I didn't even know there was a 250 club
Where do I sign up, I might only be a member for a few grows though becuase I'm going to try and pack an air cooled 400 in here soon lol.. What space you working with?
I've been posting in the 400 club because of my cfl's but I'm only pusing around 170w with cfl's in the flower cab and hps, vegged with a 250 metal halide "and flowered some auto's under it for 4-5 weeks." Then I got my hps conversion bulb in. Been growing with that for the past couple weeks! Just flipped the switch to 12/12 on my big girls "Quzar and 2 vanilla kush on wed." They've only been on 12/12 for 3 days and they've already stretched 2-4" into the screen
Anyway I'll be putting up new pics later in my sig but this was a 3 days ago.
One of the Auto's I have off to the side! 6weeks in still mostly clear trics!
Heres the Vk's and Quzar under the screen, this was right when I switched to 12/12 3 days ago. There already coming through the screen!
I think the answer to this question is similar to asking about flushing, like said above its better just to figure out what works best for you!
If you look at my pic above its pretty overgrown on the 5 gallon and I will probably trim the lower 8". It all depends on how much popcorn bud you want to be trimming. I would think the more you leave on the more bud you will get in the end though...
Where do I sign up, I might only be a member for a few grows though becuase I'm going to try and pack an air cooled 400 in here soon lol.. What space you working with?I've been posting in the 400 club because of my cfl's but I'm only pusing around 170w with cfl's in the flower cab and hps, vegged with a 250 metal halide "and flowered some auto's under it for 4-5 weeks." Then I got my hps conversion bulb in. Been growing with that for the past couple weeks! Just flipped the switch to 12/12 on my big girls "Quzar and 2 vanilla kush on wed." They've only been on 12/12 for 3 days and they've already stretched 2-4" into the screen
Anyway I'll be putting up new pics later in my sig but this was a 3 days ago.
One of the Auto's I have off to the side! 6weeks in still mostly clear trics!
Heres the Vk's and Quzar under the screen, this was right when I switched to 12/12 3 days ago. There already coming through the screen!
Getting too crowded underneath? Should I be thinning this out at all?
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Filling in a bit..
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Grazz
I think the answer to this question is similar to asking about flushing, like said above its better just to figure out what works best for you!
If you look at my pic above its pretty overgrown on the 5 gallon and I will probably trim the lower 8". It all depends on how much popcorn bud you want to be trimming. I would think the more you leave on the more bud you will get in the end though...
JamesQuall
Active Member
Awesome Thread! I've been planning a small grow tent with a 250, but am a little concerned about heat. It will be 2.5 x 2.5 x 5.5, wondering what a good ventilation set up might be or what has worked for you folks.
SmeLLyTreeZ
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Its never a bad thing to over do you ventilation. "Unless running co2.." I'm assuming your not worrying about that right now
With that being said I would at least go with a nice 4" inline fan and Just use a passive intake "open hole sucking in fresh air from negative pressure." They have them built in on the tents, some are lightproof little flaps you just open. Basically put the exhaust fan at the top and open the intake port at the furthest lowest point and you should be g2g! One thing I've noticed with running the 250 with proper ventilation is you wont have to worry about temps much at all when dialed in. If you want to run a carbon filter "which you probably will lol." Then you can easily hook one up to your 4" inline fan and either push air or pull air through it depending on the amount of room you have in you tent.
Grazzmon
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Welcome TreeZ, (can't call you smelly..lol)Grazz bro I like your setup! Very similar to mine! I didn't even know there was a 250 club
I've been posting in the 400 club because of my cfl's but I'm only pusing around 170w with cfl's in the flower cab and hps, vegged with a 250 metal halide "and flowered some auto's under it for 4-5 weeks." Then I got my hps conversion bulb in. Been growing with that for the past couple weeks! Just flipped the switch to 12/12 on my big girls "Quzar and 2 vanilla kush on wed." They've only been on 12/12 for 3 days and they've already stretched 2-4" into the screen
Anyway I'll be putting up new pics later in my sig but this was a 3 days ago.
One of the Auto's I have off to the side! 6weeks in still mostly clear trics!
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Heres the Vk's and Quzar under the screen, this was right when I switched to 12/12 3 days ago. There already coming through the screen!
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I think the answer to this question is similar to asking about flushing, like said above its better just to figure out what works best for you!
If you look at my pic above its pretty overgrown on the 5 gallon and I will probably trim the lower 8". It all depends on how much popcorn bud you want to be trimming. I would think the more you leave on the more bud you will get in the end though...
yeah the 250 Club has been here for quite a while, and there are some very good&knowledgeable folks here.
My space is about 3 1/2'w X 4 1/2"h.. 21" deep. For now I will not be doing any trimming.. def do not want to stress the girls while they are busy building buds for me
I asked the question because I wanted to be sure that all of the undergrowth wouldn't be a stress.. got the answer I needed (as usual here..Thank You 250 Club)Looking forward to your posts and pics.. your grow is looking very nice..
Grazz
SmeLLyTreeZ
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THanks bro! LoL, yea very true.Welcome TreeZ, (can't call you smelly..lol)
yeah the 250 Club has been here for quite a while, and there are some very good&knowledgeable folks here.
My space is about 3 1/2'w X 4 1/2"h.. 21" deep. For now I will not be doing any trimming.. def do not want to stress the girls while they are busy building buds for me
Looking forward to your posts and pics.. your grow is looking very nice..
Grazz
Yea its probably a good call on your part not to trim anything that far in, I'm hesitant to trim anything off my big girl and she just started flowering
I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys are doing with these 250's too, seems like some cool people in here.
Edit, oh my space is very similar! im a little over 3' long by 24" deep and 5.5' tall. I'm running a crazy exhaust fan and carbon filter though preparing for the 400 lol.
JamesQuall
Active Member
Thanks for the response TreeZ. I was thinking about going with a 6" inline for the ease of upgrade if I ever want to, and just get a speed controller and run it at what it needs to be. A carbon filter is a must IMO, probably just going to build a DYI one from the site unless I find a well priced combo deal.Its never a bad thing to over do you ventilation. "Unless running co2.." I'm assuming your not worrying about that right now
With that being said I would at least go with a nice 4" inline fan and Just use a passive intake "open hole sucking in fresh air from negative pressure." They have them built in on the tents, some are lightproof little flaps you just open. Basically put the exhaust fan at the top and open the intake port at the furthest lowest point and you should be g2g! One thing I've noticed with running the 250 with proper ventilation is you wont have to worry about temps much at all when dialed in. If you want to run a carbon filter "which you probably will lol." Then you can easily hook one up to your 4" inline fan and either push air or pull air through it depending on the amount of room you have in you tent.
I figured 2.5 x 2.5 x 5.5 would be enough room for two ladies.
Doobieus
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Oh my goodness Grazz look what you did!! Lol great job.
Anyhow.....
Welcome Treez (I'm with Grazz on this one lol), and welcome Quail. Glad to have you two aboard.
As far as all the posts....
Quail I have a 6 inch Vortex with a carbon filter and it's passive intake on my bloom tent. The veg tent has a I want to say a 6 or 8 inch fan, also passive intake. Pretty sure it's an 8 inch fan though. 2.5 x 2.5 x 5.5 will be good, but you could push it to 3 x 3 x 6 if you wanted. You have to remember to consider space for the carbon filter/ventilation/light. You figure if you went with a 5.5 tall and say the CF/Light/Ventilation took about a foot, you'd be left with 3-3.5 feet to work with because you want your canopy about 5 inches or so under the light. Then you have to consider your medium and how much height that will take, and pretty much work around the space you have left over. I'm sure you've considered all of these factors already, you sound like you have a good idea of what you want to do. Anyhow that's my 2 cents on that and again welcome.
Treez your grow looks great!! Nice looking, and you seem to have a lot of knowledge. Lol it's pretty funny because you answered pretty much how I would've answered that. As both of my tents are set up that way lol. Anyway welcome to club, great to have you along I think you'll like it.
Grazz!! You're welcome, you know we always got you dude!! I know I do.
Anyhow.....
Welcome Treez (I'm with Grazz on this one lol), and welcome Quail. Glad to have you two aboard.
As far as all the posts....
Quail I have a 6 inch Vortex with a carbon filter and it's passive intake on my bloom tent. The veg tent has a I want to say a 6 or 8 inch fan, also passive intake. Pretty sure it's an 8 inch fan though. 2.5 x 2.5 x 5.5 will be good, but you could push it to 3 x 3 x 6 if you wanted. You have to remember to consider space for the carbon filter/ventilation/light. You figure if you went with a 5.5 tall and say the CF/Light/Ventilation took about a foot, you'd be left with 3-3.5 feet to work with because you want your canopy about 5 inches or so under the light. Then you have to consider your medium and how much height that will take, and pretty much work around the space you have left over. I'm sure you've considered all of these factors already, you sound like you have a good idea of what you want to do. Anyhow that's my 2 cents on that and again welcome.
Treez your grow looks great!! Nice looking, and you seem to have a lot of knowledge. Lol it's pretty funny because you answered pretty much how I would've answered that. As both of my tents are set up that way lol. Anyway welcome to club, great to have you along I think you'll like it.
Grazz!! You're welcome, you know we always got you dude!! I know I do.
SmeLLyTreeZ
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It sounds like you know exactly what you need, what are you waiting for get those girls going!!
Btw I've heard its good to go a little bigger on the carbon filter, I found a 650cfm on ebay for like 90 shipped! Works amazing so far! I'm running my fan @ around 450 cfm right now and because I ran out of room like doobie was explaining lol, I had to run my fan and filter in the attic so I'm "pushing through the filter." Still works great though!
THere's some good DIY's out there for it too, I'm actually doing a little DIY carbon filter for my veg cab which is also vented to the attic.
Anyway let us know what you decide on, I actually have a link to a great carbon filter and 6" fan if your interested!
LoL, Thanks brotha! I'm glad I found this floating around, I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on it! Glad to see theres some good info going around for the most of what I've seen in this thread
I'm just getting to the good part of my grow so I'll be happy to keep you guys updated!! I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys have going on too!
Doobieus
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Lol correction, sista not brudda.LoL, Thanks brotha! I'm glad I found this floating around, I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on it! Glad to see theres some good info going around for the most of what I've seen in this thread
I'm just getting to the good part of my grow so I'll be happy to keep you guys updated!! I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys have going on too!
We have a couple club banners to sport if you want, I made 3 and another user made 1. We have 1 that I animated, it was the design everyone favored most. The banner in Grazz's sig is the animated banner.
Post #3838 has the banners and post #3840 and #3845 have the code information to put it in your signature.
The animated banner I couldn't find the post, and can't remember if I even posted it lol. Anyhow you can right click and save the banner from Grazz, and then upload as sig pic. If you need help feel free to ask.
Glad to have ya around Treez.
Grazzmon
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Doobieus
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Thank ya much Grazz!!'.. and they crowd goes crazy!!!" Congrats Doob!!
Also the gals are looking great.
Green Horny
Member
Hi, can some one help me here? I have 5 plants under a 250 hps, they are in soil and I am using bionova products - supersoil mix + pk 13/14, I have been given enzimes from Advanced Natural Power wich have fluvic and humic acids and that is all I´ve been giving, I recently went from tap water to destilled water, ph is 6.5, temps 70f and rh 50%, since flower I have been having some fan leaves turning yellow, then upper leaves having brown spots, turning yellow then dry, now that I am on 2 weeks to harvest it is getting worst, leaves are very pale and going yellow, not only the fan leaves, am I missing something? please help. thanks
Doobieus
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Hey Green welcome to the club first off.
Secondly....
If you're temps are 70F around 4-6 inches under the light then more than likely it's nutrient deficiency, nutrient lockout (Due to salt build up) or nutrient burn. Is the Ph 6.5 in your run off or is that what you Ph your water to prior to feed? Sorry for all of the questions but without photos it's a little more challenging to diagnose the problem. If you could post a photo, it'd be a lot easier to tell. Change from distilled to spring water, distilled water doesn't have some of the stuff spring has. I think distilled works better with hydro than soil.
Anyhow hope this helps some.