250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Sr. Verde said:

CMH is different than just MH and HPS though.. it's an inbetween

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Yeah, it's a tweener.. 4000k and look at the light spectrum.. and the girls seem to like it




Grazz

I always liked CMH. I'm perpetual though so I just use two separate hoods for mh and hps .

Sr. Verde said:

I always liked CMH. I'm perpetual though so I just use two separate hoods for mh and hps .

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Same here. Here is my veg and flower and then I have clones and another veg in my other room.

Sorry, are you pulling air from your flower tent, into the smaller veg one, using the heat and moisture from the flower tent to make the veg one warmer and more humid??

Sr. Verde said:

By aggressive veg I mean building foliage with heavy feelings after the plant has been established in it's final pot. Growing lots of branches, with lots of nodes on each branch, and training into a bush that will be ready for SCROG.

To me that's more aggressive than flipping on the floro at 20/4 and forgetting about them while they establish roots.

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You mean like these?? They are from my trial with a 400 HPS in a bigger tent, so die hard 250 fans, look away now

They were vegged from seed, all under a single 125cfl (with 55w 2700k thrown in as they became "plants"), then just topped once about a week ago, and gonna be flipped any day now, as soon as I replace my pH pen and get the def's under control (big Mg def, but haven't added any in case I lock out through incorrect pH)

5 of these are Buddha Blue Cheese, and the one in the odd pot is a Strawberry cough, which is a bit behind the others, but is only thrown in so I have something else when i get bored of smoking my other 2 strains....life is good

Actually, the last pic is of my 2 Buddha cheese, which are under my 250...leading nicely onto this post.

Here are my ladies, a little def through Mg, causing knock on effects to N, and P. But I am getting serious Taco leaves. NOt had these before, but read about them, and can't for the life of me remember what it is. Pretty sure it's not heat. Got a 190cfm fan in a short 60x60 tent, with 4" fan hanging directly under the bulb, meaning you could hold a new born baby as close to the lights as the leaves are without burning it (DISCLAIMER - Holding a new born baby next to a HPS bulb is both dangerous and stupid, don't do it).

So what could it be, have I let the plants veg too long, and the 250 isn't enough for them (struggle to believe that)? Now they have used the water from repotting and are more malleable, i'm gonna tie down the top stems and let the others catch up for a week before flipping, or maybe be slightly lazier, and lean the whole plant a little, getting better use from the 250. N.B- I am used to MJ plants growing in such a way that, looking from above, one node grows 2 stems, NOrth and south, then the next node East and West, and so on. Yet these buddha cheese seem to grow 3 stems at each node, more like 3 pints of an equilateral triangle. Is this common or is it a 4 leaf clover kind of thing and I am really lucky?

3 branches per nodes is called a triploid. It's lucky.

Your plant looks like it's having nute lockouts from pH issues.

Thanks, I figured that (and that isn't supposed to sound sarcastic) my PH pen decided to go crazy over christmas reading from 2.3 to 14 in one solution which i knew was somewhere around 7, and wouldn't calibrate. I'm literally off to the hydro store in the next hour to get one before today's watering.

I've been using a test kit where a sample goes blue/green depending on pH, and aiming for 6.6ph. I use a mix of Biobizz soils, Light Mix rated at 6.2pH, and All Mix at 6.6pH(3 hands all mix for 5 light). Checked my run off the other day and it came out above 7, but went in mid 6's. Can't figure that. The run off was taken from the drip tray a few minutes after watering...could the plastic of the tray affect the pH? Odd

Do you think that it's the pH causing the Taco leaves?

Thanks as always for the help verde

Not sure about the taco leaves.. Could be a number of factors.. I wouldn't be worried about that as much as the burning and yellowing in the leaves. Stop using testing strips, get your pH sorted out. And the leaves will probably stop getting all taco'd out.

I picked up a digital pH pen. I love it. Digital calibration and some 7.01 fluid is the way to go. Also calibrates to 4.01, but isn't even really necessary. I spent $80 on it. Worth it over say my old $40 unit.

pH in soil should be like 6.3-6.8.. Run off could be around 6.. i'd say you want it on the acidic side. I water in flowering with 6.5ish. Sometimes around 6.8-7.0 if I'm flushing after doing a lot of feeding.

I similarly bought a £50 pH pen, opting for the more expensive one, just 5 months ago, and was very pleased...but may have dropped it off a shelf, from 6ft, landing on a hardwood floor and hitting the kitchen work top on it's way down

I used to water at 6.6-6.7 when using just light mix at 6.2ph, figuring it would balance to about 6.5-6.6, and that worked fine, best i've had, 3 smallish plants under my 250 pulled 29, 33, and 36g, and all plants were in slight def throughout, as I didn't want to try too hard to catch up and burn. Now I recon my sol mix is 6.4-6.5, so will feed at 6.6 throughout flower

what up every one havent been here for about 9 months, glad to see the old timeres are still here. wanted to share some great dank picks of some super lemon haze from GH. its on day 50, buds are sweling up and the great smell of lemon fule, i defenitly like this pheno type. thinking of letting go for 2 to 3 week s more.

Hettyman said:

I similarly bought a £50 pH pen, opting for the more expensive one, just 5 months ago, and was very pleased...but may have dropped it off a shelf, from 6ft, landing on a hardwood floor and hitting the kitchen work top on it's way down

I used to water at 6.6-6.7 when using just light mix at 6.2ph, figuring it would balance to about 6.5-6.6, and that worked fine, best i've had, 3 smallish plants under my 250 pulled 29, 33, and 36g, and all plants were in slight def throughout, as I didn't want to try too hard to catch up and burn. Now I recon my sol mix is 6.4-6.5, so will feed at 6.6 throughout flower

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sounds good. you need to calibrate your meter ever couple weeks with calibration fluid. are you doing that?

Also are you using cal mag? I use a lot of cal mag. My plants love it.

frankcast04 said:

what up every one havent been here for about 9 months, glad to see the old timeres are still here. wanted to share some great dank picks of some super lemon haze from GH. its on day 50, buds are sweling up and the great smell of lemon fule, i defenitly like this pheno type. thinking of letting go for 2 to 3 week s more.View attachment 2490553View attachment 2490554View attachment 2490555View attachment 2490556View attachment 2490557View attachment 2490558

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Awesome. i was about to order some GH SLH seeds to veg in 2 weeks. It's my next strain.

How was the stretch? Did you train at all? Looks like it's taking a while to flower?

Looks delicious

Hettyman said:

Sorry, are you pulling air from your flower tent, into the smaller veg one, using the heat and moisture from the flower tent to make the veg one warmer and more humid??

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Thats exactly what I'm doing hetty. It works perfect as it keeps my flower tent low enough humidity that I don't run the risk of mold and then in my veg tent it raises the humidity just enough that it's perfect, also the 250 at this time of the year just wont keep it warm enough so it dumps in there and then exhausts back outside so it's constantly recycling my air.

Oh yeah I always calibrate, 2 or 3 weeks (if i'm really lazy)...took it to the hydro shop and tried some cleaning solution as well, definitly one dead pen. Have another one now, which I won't drop, cos there is no way I can keep affording £50 every 6 months

I was using epsom salts late veg, and mid flower, which has helped, but now have been given a load of Gold Label bits, including an Mg feed that I am using now. I also bought some garden lime yesterday, which is too late now, but will mix into my soil in future grows

giggles26 said:

Thats exactly what I'm doing hetty. It works perfect as it keeps my flower tent low enough humidity that I don't run the risk of mold and then in my veg tent it raises the humidity just enough that it's perfect, also the 250 at this time of the year just wont keep it warm enough so it dumps in there and then exhausts back outside so it's constantly recycling my air.

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Nice! I must say I am also loving the lower ambient temps at the moment, got a 250 tent and 400 tent next to each other, and the room they are in doesn't get ridiculously hot...just nice

frankcast04 said:

what up every one havent been here for about 9 months, glad to see the old timeres are still here. wanted to share some great dank picks of some super lemon haze from GH. its on day 50, buds are sweling up and the great smell of lemon fule, i defenitly like this pheno type. thinking of letting go for 2 to 3 week s more.View attachment 2490553View attachment 2490554View attachment 2490555View attachment 2490556View attachment 2490557View attachment 2490558

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Nice!! Yeah, I'd let it go until the trics tell you to chop. I had one ebb&flow grow that went 13+ weeks (well worth the wait ) and clones from the same mother in coco that were ready in 8 weeks..

Grazz

oldtimers.. lol. Not sure who that might be. Missing Doobs on here though

BTW: I have since switched from all coco, because the little flies seem to like it way too much, to ProMix/Coco around a 75/25 mix and 8-9 weeks is getting it done. Next grow may be all ProMix unless I run into some reasonably priced, proven soil.

Grazz

Grazzmon said:

BTW: I have since switched from all coco, because the little flies seem to like it way too much, to ProMix/Coco around a 75/25 mix and 8-9 weeks is getting it done. Next grow may be all ProMix unless I run into some reasonably priced, proven soil.

Grazz

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I'm using "Victory Brand Superior Garden Mix" for the first time. I used to use Fox Farms Ocean Forest religiously but I'm starting to move on. FFOF is good, it's just not perfect. Great for the $$ though, if your using a LOT.

So now I have some Pineapple Express getting started in the Victory Soil. I added kelp meal, alphalpha meal, and rock phosphate to my victory soil. I have some headbands finishing in the FFOF.

Also for the record I mix both until it's like 40-50% perlite. I like perlite.

I hear a lot of good reports about pineapple express. Is it a sat? Is is the flavour that's the appeal? or the high? or both?