250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Doobieus

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^^ Lol yeah something like that ^^

Beautiful Doobs!! Thanks. So how much does this lower your temps?
About 13 degrees lower on top of the 15 degrees the piece o' crap swamp cooler (The one for the house). So all together it's about a 23 degree drop. Hooked it up to my reflector for shit's, giggles and it just looked nicer lol.

Doobs Mcgiver :lol:

Damn girl you are just too much :clap:

Everytime time i think you can not possible throw me you do it again :shock:

I want to be on your team when things get shitty:hump:

Would have posted last night,but we had a freak wind storm and took our power out.Got it back on at 3 am this morning.

And our power company say's we are ready for storms,it was only about 50 mph winds!
Lol, yeah the power company LIES!! That sucks but at least you didn't have anything in bloom, lol it'd be a lot worse then lol.

Thanks Mind lol, pffft you know you're on my team lol.

hi im new to hps but i have a 250 watt hps coming tomorrow and right now i have my plant under a couple fluorescent grow lights, its doing ok but i know it would be better under hps so i thought i'd invest a little in this hobbie, but i was thinking i might scrog it with a couple other plants in my 3x3 grow room, but i was gonna also ask how do you harvest after a scrog grow?
Get either chicken wire, or some type of grid plastic coated is preferred but if not then that's fine too. Cut the main stalk, take the plant off with the screen attached and start cutting all branches off of the main stalk and dry. Taking the screen out to harvest is optional, you can also just cut the branches off the main stalk while the screen is still assembled.

Others also use rope, or thread screens and just snip the strings when they want to harvest, I don't like this way because I have an issue with fibers in my herb.

Hope this helps.

You'll want to discuss scrog with Doobieus. SHE is on this thread pretty much everyday and is IMO an expert. Just give her some time, I'm sure she'll help you.
Lol aww Altered :hug:, I'm no expert dude :oops:, but thanks I'm flattered, and thanks for the SHE ;) lol.

Hey clubbers, I need your opinions please. I've included a pic of my cabinet. As you can see my set up has been traditional with a clone, veg, and a flower chamber. I keep the mother in the clone chamber. I've been brainstorming on how to yield more since my last harvest was only a bit over 3oz. This is what I'm thinking. NO veg chamber. Use the existing veg chamber for flower. Right now my cycle is cut clones, veg for 8 weeks while flowering finishes of previous grow, then move to flower. Basically harvesting every 8 weeks. What I'm thinking of doing now is lollipopping. Cut clones, straight to flower after rooting. This way I can harvest every 4 weeks. Now you can see that what I veg with now. 8 x 26w cfl's which work like a charm keeping the node spacing at a minimum. Lets now call the veg chamber the cfl flower chamber. And the existing flower chamber, with the 250w hps and led panels, lets call it the hps flower chamber. So if I cut clones and root them in clone chamber then move straight to flower what would be the best way?



A: move rooted clones to cfl flower chamber, and in 4 weeks when, hps flower chamber is harvested, move them to that chamber to let them finish under the hps


or


B: move rooted clones to cfl flower chamber or hps flower chamber, whichever is open, and let them finish there, basically the harvest every 4 weeks will alternate like this, hps flowered complete, then cfl flowered complete and so on.




So clubbers, I hope all this crap makes sense. I need your opinions. If you see any holes in my plan let me know. If you don't think this will increase my yield let me know. This is a big decision so please help talk me thru it.

OK its time to :joint:
Option A would give you more consistent results, I'd go with option A personally.

these are curling to
What are your temps, and humidity at? How close is your light and what kind of light is it? Also how much do you water them and how often? Have you started using nutrients yet, and what kind of soil are you using? Also how old are they?

Hate to ask all the questions but that information helps us to better answer your question.

With the pictures provided though, I'm guessing over watering.
 

Doobieus

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Sorry for not posting the rest of the pics on that tutorial ya'll, but I figured to do it on Thursday because I should be getting the high speed turned on out here finally. It's really hard to post a picture tutorial on the connection I'm on right now because the server only holds onto the uploaded pictures so long, and the pictures take so frikkin' long to upload, the the server throws out the old pictures and yeah the result is pictures missing. Yeah screw all that noise.
 

RichED

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Been doing this for a while now on second grow with this setup down the middle with two sheets of black thick plastic where it meets each space it turns back and taped to wall ciel or floor the same both sides then covered with reflector. have vents on bottom open and a strong two room exaust bathroom fan pulling out one side connected to light with a "y" section going over to other side of tent and to other light temps rang between 80 and 85 a little high but it works for me
gives me seprt times or sep plant types freedom

right now on one side 1- dutch passion blueberry and 1-nirvana snowwhite in week and a half flower and on the other side 3- serious seeds Kalimist 30 day flower I use the tall vert fans everything else standard

sativas are getting away from me first time i threw in a scrog screen late 4 1/2 feet high most people scrog at about 1 foot to 2 foot from floor with young flexible easy to persuade plants this is a little harder but working.

peace my brother im out:peace:
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
Hnadyman,

BR is right. Those look fine to me. Really, really, really fine actually. Check out your local tree sometime. Leaves in various states all over the place. Perfection is not required and those baby plants act up a little for no reason some times just like the kids! LOL!
 

Doobieus

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Hnadyman,

BR is right. Those look fine to me. Really, really, really fine actually. Check out your local tree sometime. Leaves in various states all over the place. Perfection is not required and those baby plants act up a little for no reason some times just like the kids! LOL!
Although, Handyman being a first time grower, it wouldn't hurt for him to know what causes curling under and curling up. I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought his plant's were unhealthy or that his grow environment wasn't perfect, just trying to better assess the issue to help out and be able to explain the curling a little better.
 

AlteredBeast

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Lol aww Altered :hug:, I'm no expert dude :oops:, but thanks I'm flattered, and thanks for the SHE ;) lol.


Option A would give you more consistent results, I'd go with option A personally.
Doobs I haven't seen a question that you couldn't answer yet and all your answers are intelligent and helpful. That qualifies you as an expert in my book. You, wretched, Mind, and Crazy have helped me soooooooooo much. I'm just glad I found this thread with you all. My skills and confidence have grown tremendously since I've had you there to help. Thanks to all of you again and again.



As far as option A I agree with you. But I am gonna do a side by side comparison, full flower under hps, and full flower under cfls, using all clones from 3d. This way I can actually show everyone picture proof and do my FIRST tutorial on the differences between hps and cfls for flower using the same genetics, nutes, everything except the lights. And to be honest at the same time I'll be learning too. It should be fun. I cut clones a week ago today, 3d1's clones all are showing roots, 3d2 and 3d3 none are showing roots. Its amazing to me how well 3d1 clones compared to any other plant I've cloned.
 

Wretched420

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Hnadyman,

BR is right. Those look fine to me. Really, really, really fine actually. Check out your local tree sometime. Leaves in various states all over the place. Perfection is not required and those baby plants act up a little for no reason some times just like the kids! LOL!
nicely said:hump:....
Handyman,
some plants also tend to be more pickier than others find out what your baby's like keep em on a good schedule your plants look really healthy so no worries now but like doobs said there nothing wrong with learning what you dont know especially defects cause you will run into them guaranteed :joint::neutral:...
 

handyman00

Member
ive been keeping a good eye on them they look great just a lil curling upward i just wonted to make sure they were gonna be good it took me 2 long to get my bean for them to die and start from scratch
 

Wretched420

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Been doing this for a while now on second grow with this setup down the middle with two sheets of black thick plastic where it meets each space it turns back and taped to wall ciel or floor the same both sides then covered with reflector. have vents on bottom open and a strong two room exaust bathroom fan pulling out one side connected to light with a "y" section going over to other side of tent and to other light temps rang between 80 and 85 a little high but it works for me
gives me seprt times or sep plant types freedom

right now on one side 1- dutch passion blueberry and 1-nirvana snowwhite in week and a half flower and on the other side 3- serious seeds Kalimist 30 day flower I use the tall vert fans everything else standard

sativas are getting away from me first time i threw in a scrog screen late 4 1/2 feet high most people scrog at about 1 foot to 2 foot from floor with young flexible easy to persuade plants this is a little harder but working.

peace my brother im out:peace:
sounds good man should post some pix up would love to see that KaliMist all those strains ive actually looked into some good genes there :hump:..
i have some pollen thats about 75% Pre 98' KaliMist that i will be hitting my girls up with cant wait to see what this brings me.. but i would love to see your setup man..:joint::eyesmoke:
 

Wretched420

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ive been keeping a good eye on them they look great just a lil curling upward i just wonted to make sure they were gonna be good it took me 2 long to get my bean for them to die and start from scratch
yea man youll be fine.whenever you see something you think is wrong just post it before it gets worst someone will help.:joint: though i find keeping a written Schedule on when and what your feeding them works great when having defect problems i can always look back and see what went wrong saved me lots of times.. but this is me lots of people got that shit down in there head but my girls are fucking picky lol..so i dunno just throwing that out there.works IMO.
 

Doobieus

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Doobs I haven't seen a question that you couldn't answer yet and all your answers are intelligent and helpful. That qualifies you as an expert in my book. You, wretched, Mind, and Crazy have helped me soooooooooo much. I'm just glad I found this thread with you all. My skills and confidence have grown tremendously since I've had you there to help. Thanks to all of you again and again.



As far as option A I agree with you. But I am gonna do a side by side comparison, full flower under hps, and full flower under cfls, using all clones from 3d. This way I can actually show everyone picture proof and do my FIRST tutorial on the differences between hps and cfls for flower using the same genetics, nutes, everything except the lights. And to be honest at the same time I'll be learning too. It should be fun. I cut clones a week ago today, 3d1's clones all are showing roots, 3d2 and 3d3 none are showing roots. Its amazing to me how well 3d1 clones compared to any other plant I've cloned.
The comparison will be a great learning experience for you, keep us updated, and definitely throw a link our way when you're done with your tutorial.

Thanks for the compliment Altered, but all flattery aside, I'm glad that this club has helped you out and raised your confidence and skill. I look forward to seeing future grows and help from you in here.

yea man youll be fine.whenever you see something you think is wrong just post it before it gets worst someone will help.:joint: though i find keeping a written Schedule on when and what your feeding them works great when having defect problems i can always look back and see what went wrong saved me lots of times.. but this is me lots of people got that shit down in there head but my girls are fucking picky lol..so i dunno just throwing that out there.works IMO.
I print out year round calenders (So it's all the months on one sheet of printing paper) and use that for my grow log. I mark nute watering days with a circle and non nute days with a circle with an X through it. There's also a decent amount of "Notes" space on the bottom for those extra tid bits of important info.

Thought I'd throw it out there how I keep my log, aside from the journal. I don't know how people can just keep that shit in check in their heads lol, trying to do it like that drives me insane. More power to those folks, but damn.... lol.
 

Mindmelted

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Whats up clubbers.Every one stuff looks great.Keep up the good work everybody.
AB cant wait to see your next round of girls.You will see a difference this time around i belive.
I had to play a little with the WB,She liked a high ppm(1500)
When i found that sweet spot she really started to get Juicy(Damn starting to get excited:shock:)
Well i am going to break down today and order me some Apple Jack from the tude:hump:
 

MostlyCrazy

New Member
It's all good! It's normal to be an attentive "mother". I have found that when a problem arrises I ask myself, I say self, what changed. Wretch is right, all strains and even some plants within a strain have different requirements. Some get right picky, picky,picky. The more you know the more you'll grow!
 

Wretched420

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The comparison will be a great learning experience for you, keep us updated, and definitely throw a link our way when you're done with your tutorial.

Thanks for the compliment Altered, but all flattery aside, I'm glad that this club has helped you out and raised your confidence and skill. I look forward to seeing future grows and help from you in here.


I print out year round calenders (So it's all the months on one sheet of printing paper) and use that for my grow log. I mark nute watering days with a circle and non nute days with a circle with an X through it. There's also a decent amount of "Notes" space on the bottom for those extra tid bits of important info.

Thought I'd throw it out there how I keep my log, aside from the journal. I don't know how people can just keep that shit in check in their heads lol, trying to do it like that drives me insane. More power to those folks, but damn.... lol.
right on doobs sounds similar to mine except i just write the dates down in notebook :mrgreen:.. and yes if i tried remembering everything i would probally just fuck up my girls and go crazy.. notes really help glad you threw that out there:bigjoint:..
 
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