250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Good thanks, it's a nice sunny morning, I'm already back from work with a J and a cup of tea

Yourself??

Oh I'm good. Just woke up and about to smoke one now

hello everyone hpoe you all are good. got some more pics, in the middle of week 3 and i guess im still
doing good..... plants not dead lol.
still got the clones in there to

Lookin good ace...

Heres my damaged girl.. Left her be for a couple more days, gave her nutes mid week so I just gave her a minor flush and some h20. Hope for the best..

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And here is the rest of the one I cut the tops on last week, and my other girl.. MMMM tasty...

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All in the box drying, 8" fan on low pulling at the top. Temp is 72f and humidity is about 50%.. Best I can get it.. Boxed is all closed up, jars are ready...

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Oh yeah, and my Sativa... Couple more weeks for her... Believe it or not I had no nute issues with her until just this week, when I went away she missed a cycle, and I think i shocked her when I feed. I flushed, RO was 6.5 so I gave her some food...

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Hey thanks 10acjed. I'm trying. I see your doing good your self
got a lot to smoke there. Can I come over? Lol JK'in

Hettyman said:

Definitely the caddy shack gopher and budds. Funnily enough, II watched that film on tele this week, and didn't laugh once, the whole way through...I guess some things just don't hold up over time.

Thats why you need at least 3 lighters at any one time, so as you wander round smoking, and putting them down, you soon end up stumbling across one rather then spend ages hunting round, getting frustrated and killing the buzz derived from the first half of your unlit joint

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Lol yeah just like the cute little furry bastard, plus my gf loves that movie. 3 lighters? Yeah don't think it'd work, I manage to lose a 5 pack easily. My puppy loves stealing and hiding them too, so that doesn't help. Found her stash under our side table in the corner of the living room and under one of our rolling hampers. Friggin' 7 lighters man, the lil shit , love her to pieces though.

ace720 said:

Hey how is everyone ? Just stopping by to say hi.

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Just got done watering and chilling, waiting for the gf to come home and have some din din yum!! I'm making home made from scratch crispy chicken strips w/ honey mustard (also home made) and a side of country cubed roasted potatoes and veggies. Not sure if I'm going to do green beans, corn or a small salad yet. Top it off with more home made goodness, dessert is my chocolate chunky cookies .

ace720 said:

hello everyone hpoe you all are good. got some more pics, in the middle of week 3 and i guess im still
doing good..... plants not dead lol.
still got the clones in there to

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Looks good, yay bud porn!! Everyone loves to see trichome frosty goodness, great work Ace keep it up !! Oh yeah and fix your blinds in pic 5 lol.

ace720 said:

I see your doing good your self
got a lot to smoke there. Can I come over? Lol JK'in

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I second that idea Ace lol.

Hey guys i used to grow but am just now getting back in. Definitely going with a 250. Ive been trying to find a good system and i came across an enclosed system. Here is a link http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/sunburst-sbe250-hpsmh-grow-light-eballast-p-3709.html

Just wanted to get some opinions on it. It is an e-ballast so all of the heat will be coming from the lamp, not the ballast. Those give off almost no heat. Also going with fox farms light warrior soil, fox farms nutes, big bud for veg and tiger bloom/big bloom for flowering.

Also been shopping around for a good cheap 4'' inline fan. My biggest issue with inline fans is the NOISE! i had one before that was really loud and i want to avoid that this time. I found a nice ventech for $60 ($34 + shipping) on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KMOJPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A2RE9P12YH19TJ and i also am getting a 3 speed active air fan speed controller to throttle the fan back in case it is too loud. Could someone help an old grower get back in? Want to do it right.

So Ace has the SoG thing going on too....and in wonderful small pots, congrats on doing that and keepng them healthy looking.

I've done loads of experimenting with plant quantity over plant size, topping and LST, and I have to say, the best plants I have been small plants, untrained in 2litre pots. This is the result shown in my avatar pic... one very small lady that produced 14g dried, and was the best tasting strongest harvest yet. I guess that this is due to the whole plant being in good range of the bulb, and the regular watering in the smaller pots allowing very precise nute control.

I kept reading that I should use 2-3 gallon pots, yet everytime I have done this, I have had more problems with feeding then ever before, and despite lettng the ladies get much maturer, they still take a full week to clear the pots if I fill them. Instead I am feeding just 400ml each every 2 or 3 days, and not soaking the soil...A great example of "THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS, ONLY WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU AND YOUR GROW"...I see so much sweeping blanket advice on RIU, that just doesn't apply to the specific grow in mention.

I hope you are all enjoying, or have enjoyed your Sunday morning, depending on continent

plantz said:

Also been shopping around for a good cheap 4'' inline fan. My biggest issue with inline fans is the NOISE! i had one before that was really loud and i want to avoid that this time. I found a nice ventech for $60 ($34 + shipping) on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KMOJPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A2RE9P12YH19TJ and i also am getting a 3 speed active air fan speed controller to throttle the fan back in case it is too loud. Could someone help an old grower get back in? Want to do it right.

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I use a 4" TT fan made by "Vents" which with my tent in the bedroom, and the door shut, you have to stand pretty much right against the door to hear it, and then it's a very low hum. This is more then acceptable for me, cos both my wife and I know its there, and if we have guests, the slightest bit of background noise covers it. But it depends on your situation and set up. I must admit, I have had to make sure that it's off over night and only a small circulating fan runs, cos I couldn't sleep with it in the room.

Alternatively, you could always wrap some of this around the fan, or build a muffle box using this and wood:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=foam+soundproofing&_sacat=0&_odkw=noise+cancelling+foam&_osacat=0

Doobs - I have to admit at the end credits, when he is dancing, that was the closest I got to laughing, but still only a smile

And if your current location is indeed my imagination, I suggest you vacate, immediately, cos shit is about to get real ugly!!

plantz said:

Hey guys i used to grow but am just now getting back in. Definitely going with a 250. Ive been trying to find a good system and i came across an enclosed system. Here is a link http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/sunburst-sbe250-hpsmh-grow-light-eballast-p-3709.html

Just wanted to get some opinions on it. It is an e-ballast so all of the heat will be coming from the lamp, not the ballast. Those give off almost no heat. Also going with fox farms light warrior soil, fox farms nutes, big bud for veg and tiger bloom/big bloom for flowering.

Also been shopping around for a good cheap 4'' inline fan. My biggest issue with inline fans is the NOISE! i had one before that was really loud and i want to avoid that this time. I found a nice ventech for $60 ($34 + shipping) on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KMOJPK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=A2RE9P12YH19TJ and i also am getting a 3 speed active air fan speed controller to throttle the fan back in case it is too loud. Could someone help an old grower get back in? Want to do it right.

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The setup deal is nice, but the only thing I'd look more into is whether or not you want the glass/air cool option because it costs extra.

I hang my larger fan from the wire shelf in my closet with thick rubber tow straps. It really depends on what kind of noise you're referring to. There's vibration and air movement. So if you're having vibration noise, the rubber straps should kill it and no vibration should be felt in the closet rod or w/e you hang it from. If it is air movement noise then you're going to want to invest in a duct muffler or do what Hetty said with the boxes. You're going to want to get a 4 to 6 inch reducer for this, the larger diameter of the 6 inch plus the box should kill any air noise. Insulation for ducting (the insulation with the silver jacket) will also help with both vibration and air noise.

I like Ocean forest personally, but to each is their own. If you're going with FF nutrients, go ahead and get both trios. The macro (which is what you put) and the micro, which is Open Sesame, Beasty Bloomz and Cha Ching. Also pick up some Clearex by botanicare or look up Grazzmon's link to DIY Clearex.

Hettyman said:

I've done loads of experimenting with plant quantity over plant size, topping and LST, and I have to say, the best plants I have been small plants, untrained in 2litre pots. This is the result shown in my avatar pic... one very small lady that produced 14g dried, and was the best tasting strongest harvest yet. I guess that this is due to the whole plant being in good range of the bulb, and the regular watering in the smaller pots allowing very precise nute control.

I kept reading that I should use 2-3 gallon pots, yet everytime I have done this, I have had more problems with feeding then ever before, and despite lettng the ladies get much maturer, they still take a full week to clear the pots if I fill them. Instead I am feeding just 400ml each every 2 or 3 days, and not soaking the soil...A great example of "THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS, ONLY WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU AND YOUR GROW"...I see so much sweeping blanket advice on RIU, that just doesn't apply to the specific grow in mention.

I hope you are all enjoying, or have enjoyed your Sunday morning, depending on continent

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I have done experimenting as well, and have found that the larger pots (3-5 gallons) work better for LST/SCRoG. Regular growing it's best to start off in smaller pots, transplant, then bloom with 1-3 gallon pots. SoG, of course small square pots. I also found that root growth additives/nutrients are a MUST for larger pots. That's what has worked for me, but I will agree "THERE ARE NO RIGHT ANSWERS, ONLY WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU AND YOUR GROW" like I always say different tokes for different folks.

I agree and disagree with the sweeping blanket advice. I think all advice and information is worth looking into regardless if it pertains or not. I also feel that advice or not, a grower should research it. This way they find what DOES work for them. I do agree that it can be frustrating sorting through everything, especially for newer growers but cest la vie.

My Sunday is going well, hope yours went well .

Hettyman said:

Doobs - I have to admit at the end credits, when he is dancing, that was the closest I got to laughing, but still only a smile

And if your current location is indeed my imagination, I suggest you vacate, immediately, cos shit is about to get real ugly!!

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Actually I really don't like movies/TV. That's my gf's gig, if I do watch something it's something I can learn from. Other than that I'm a hands on kind of gal, feel that age will rot my brain enough without adding TV and movies lol. Thankfully I still got plenty of years ahead of me, well hopefully lol.

It's okay I like entertainment *grabs popcorn* .

shit i love reading EVERYTHING on thie site its pretty entertaining. lol even if i dont or cant use some of the info.
ppl have some really heated conversations on here.

Not sure if anyone saw my post i think it got buried ; (

Plantz read #6592 she responded

I also replied on #6590

Sometimes its entertaining to read the exchanges between ppl on here, but I get really pissed off when someone asks for help, and you see some insecure man-child (it never seems to be women) has posted "those plants look jank, give up and start again" or "buy a 1000w with cooltube and build a 10x10 room", when the poster clearer stated he is trying a stealth grow while living at his nans or something. Really, why waste your time posting that shit, either help, or shut up and smoke another joint, or watch your ladies grow or both

I'm more of a music listener, but need movies every now and then to switch off, and forget the world, even all the budd I can consume doesn't seem to chill things at the mo

ace720 said:

Plantz read #6592 she responded

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Total retard moment not sure why i didnt see those! thanks

Hettyman said:

I also replied on #6590

Sometimes its entertaining to read the exchanges between ppl on here, but I get really pissed off when someone asks for help, and you see some insecure man-child (it never seems to be women) has posted "those plants look jank, give up and start again" or "buy a 1000w with cooltube and build a 10x10 room", when the poster clearer stated he is trying a stealth grow while living at his nans or something. Really, why waste your time posting that shit, either help, or shut up and smoke another joint, or watch your ladies grow or both

I'm more of a music listener, but need movies every now and then to switch off, and forget the world, even all the budd I can consume doesn't seem to chill things at the mo

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Hey hetty thanks for taking the time to help me and give me some pointers, i greatly appreciate it. btw were you referring to me as an insecure man-child? i dont think you were but if you were im sure your not far off lol

No no no, not at all, unlike many other threads, the 250 club doesn't seem to have any attitude. I guess ppl with a 250 must be level headed, sensible, and self-assured

I said I'd up load pictures, but I had a much more personable weekend than I normally like. Constant unexpected stop bys at the house is always fun, until you have the good creeping around lol

Hettyman said:

No no no, not at all, unlike many other threads, the 250 club doesn't seem to have any attitude. I guess ppl with a 250 must be level headed, sensible, and self-assured

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yah it must be all that heat getting to their heads