250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Cheers Grazz and Giggles...but WHAT are they? lol are they elongated pollen sacks, or mature pollen sacks? I've only seen pollen sacks once or twice when I bought non-femmed seeds, and they were destroyed and binned, and out of my house at the very first sign of them

i took pictures of my zip tie training for you guys today.. note these are 61 days into flower..

I keep the main stalk as low as possible, and let it grow horizontally as much as I can, until it runs out of room and has to grow upwards.. This is why I start early (about 3-4 weeks in veg) by tying them down with zip ties. Then I adjust and tighten as the branch grows bigger and stronger. I have each plants main cola growing into a separate corner.

not 250w but I hope this helps a little for you guys trying to figure things out .

ace720 said:

Well guys, my JACK HERE died today
I go to open my veg box today to see my fan fell on top of it.
Shit that was gonna be my next grow to. Fuckit
I put a BERRY BOMB in the coco, guess I'll see how that is.
I'm really excited now because I love me some BOMB seeds

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Where the fuck is the goddam "dislike" button!!! Sorry to hear that. Better then losing one half way through flower I guess

Personal Jesus [ I remember you asking about how many plants to fit in a small tent with a 250, well I put my clones in with my big ones, and now have 10 in a 2x2 space. Think it's gonna get a little bit crowded.

The back row are 2 clones and one seedling. The biggest one is a clone that went in a week ago on 12/12 with the big ladies, and was about the size of the smaller clones are now.
The middle row is the 2 big cheese ladies, which are still a little pale, but the lower shoots are nicely green, and I imagine it's only a matter of time till the whole plants are looking her old selves.
Front row are another 5 clones. To be honest, I have lost track of what they are, mostly blue cheese, and one or 2 cheese, and maybe a strawberry cough.

All the clones showed roots and were potted 4 days ago, and I threw them in to flower today. Only expecting to get one big budd off of each of these, but should work out an extra few g's overall to keep me going. Plus, if i get desperate, I can sacrifice one at week 7, and leave the rest to finish perfect

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Hey I have a question about keeping my temps in check with my 250w setup.

Its hovering around 77-80 right now with the tent open and a fan blowing in there. Im in the market to buy an inline and some clip on fans to be able to acctually close the door on the ten and not have to worry about temps. Just wanted to get some input on what everyone else seems to be using.

I have 4 white fires from seed going. This is my second grow for what its worth.

Hope I can give you guys some more updates in the coming weeks.

Cheers


Quick Setup Notes

DR60
3gal bags
FFOF soil mix
Dyna Grow Nutes
250w MH and HPS

OG Raskal Wifi

ready made clip on fans are the easiest option, one should be enough in there if you get enough air being sucked out. For exhaust the rule seems to be, go for slightly more then you need, better safe then sorry. I was broke and bought the cheapest 4" tube extractor fan I could, which still does the job in my 2x2 or 60x60 tent. I hang a 4" PC style fan (but a mains ready version) and hang it from my reflector blowing the heat off the bulb immediately, and I can keep the bulb itself 3-4" from the plants (maybe not in mid summer though).

Also, I strongly recommend getting a carbon filter to help keep smell down. For this to work your tent will need negative pressure (more air being sucked out then pushed in) and providing you don't have any fans blowing air in, and let air be drawn in through the vents naturally, you should be fine.

Is that OK, or too much in one go?? Did it help at all?

Hettyman said:

ready made clip on fans are the easiest option, one should be enough in there if you get enough air being sucked out. For exhaust the rule seems to be, go for slightly more then you need, better safe then sorry. I was broke and bought the cheapest 4" tube extractor fan I could, which still does the job in my 2x2 or 60x60 tent. I hang a 4" PC style fan (but a mains ready version) and hang it from my reflector blowing the heat off the bulb immediately, and I can keep the bulb itself 3-4" from the plants (maybe not in mid summer though).

Also, I strongly recommend getting a carbon filter to help keep smell down. For this to work your tent will need negative pressure (more air being sucked out then pushed in) and providing you don't have any fans blowing air in, and let air be drawn in through the vents naturally, you should be fine.

Is that OK, or too much in one go?? Did it help at all?

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Yea that all makes since. so I should not have another fan or booster type fan sucking air in from one of the lower ducts?

Sel3ctive... I got almost the same setup.

I got a carbon filter with an exhaust blower pulling air out through the carbon filter, right up next to the 250w. My temps stay in the mid 70's with the light on and with the light off, I need to turn the heat up in the room...

Try that.

ace720 said:

well guys, my jack here died today
I go to open my veg box today to see my fan fell on top of it.
Shit that was gonna be my next grow to. Fuckit
i put a berry bomb in the coco, guess i'll see how that is.
I'm really excited now because i love me some bomb seeds

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dislike, dislike, dislike

PersonalJesus said:

Sel3ctive... I got almost the same setup.

I got a carbon filter with an exhaust blower pulling air out through the carbon filter, right up next to the 250w. My temps stay in the mid 70's with the light on and with the light off, I need to turn the heat up in the room...

Try that.

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What fan do you have filter etc.

I got mine here... http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/filters-odor/carbon-filters/phresh-filters.html

And here is the exhaust blower... http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/products/axial-fans/active-air-blower-systems.html

I just ran some ducting and there you go. Just make sure you get compatible CFM ratings.
... and No, you don't need to pull any air IN from the lower openings in the tent. Just leave them open and the difference in air pressure will pull in plenty of fresh air while you're carbon filter/exhaust blower is running.

PersonalJesus said:

I got mine here... http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/filters-odor/carbon-filters/phresh-filters.html

And here is the exhaust blower... http://www.greners.com/i/fans-ventilation-filters/products/axial-fans/active-air-blower-systems.html

I just ran some ducting and there you go. Just make sure you get compatible CFM ratings.
... and No, you don't need to pull any air IN from the lower openings in the tent. Just leave them open and the difference in air pressure will pull in plenty of fresh air while you're carbon filter/exhaust blower is running.

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one more question. It just dawned on me that once I have a scrog going on its going to be really hard to drain my saucers how exactly do you grow? If its going to hinder me being able to get a full view of each plant then I dont think scrog is the right route for me.

sel3ctive said:

Yea that all makes since. so I should not have another fan or booster type fan sucking air in from one of the lower ducts?

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You can have a small fan blowing cool air into one of the lower ducts, just not a very powerful one, and make sure the extractor and filter are pulling more air out, then it blows in. It depends on your ambient temps (temp of air around the tent, in house). If they are cool enough, you may find the temps in your tent too low, like PJ said. Best thing to do is start with an extractor and try the set suggested. If temps are still too hot, maybe you do need to blow more cool air in, but I doubt it. With regards to temp between bulb and plant, use your hand, if you can hold it there comfortably, the plants should be fine (presuming you don't work with molten steel or something and have become aclimatised to extreme heat)

I would suggest some additional circulation fan in there to keep humidity low in flower.

sel3ctive said:

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Hey I have a question about keeping my temps in check with my 250w setup.

Its hovering around 77-80 right now with the tent open and a fan blowing in there. Im in the market to buy an inline and some clip on fans to be able to acctually close the door on the ten and not have to worry about temps. Just wanted to get some input on what everyone else seems to be using.

I have 4 white fires from seed going. This is my second grow for what its worth.

Hope I can give you guys some more updates in the coming weeks.

Cheers


Quick Setup Notes

DR60
3gal bags
FFOF soil mix
Dyna Grow Nutes
250w MH and HPS

OG Raskal Wifi

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Pick up some 6" clip on fans, and blow under the canopy to move around the hot air under the bulb.. it will help the plants a lot... I'm lazy so I hooked up 4 of them instead of installing an oscillating fan like I wanted to.

It's also good to pick up an inline fan to pull in fresh air.. I like max fans because they are efficient and quiet, but the downside is they are $$$$. You probably want a 4 inch. You don't really need more than 180cfm either. An air cooled hood might save you a few degrees also - but you already have a hood so that might not be worth your investment as 250w runs pretty cool anyways..

sel3ctive said:

one more question. It just dawned on me that once I have a scrog going on its going to be really hard to drain my saucers how exactly do you grow? If its going to hinder me being able to get a full view of each plant then I dont think scrog is the right route for me.

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use a towel or a sham-wow or whatever and you just sop the water out of the trays

PersonalJesus said:

use a towel or a sham-wow or whatever and you just sop the water out of the trays

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That's about what I did this weekend. Seems legit.

I ordereda fan and a filter as well , ill let you guys know how everything ends up. My ambient temps I'm the room are cool ( 70-77). I'm not really afraid to run the AC all day lol.

Question, do you guys leave plants 3 days in the dark before cutting?

justperception said:

Question, do you guys leave plants 3 days in the dark before cutting?

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I normally just do 2. But I might experiment with 3 days in the dark on this go around.

here's a good little thread, with a good quote at the top of the second page, which would suggest 72 hours is best, but from what I gather, even 48 will help. I'll be doing this with my ladies this time...i'm in no need to free the tent up quickly, and it will probably reduce the overall hanging/drying time anyway

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/382065-leaving-plant-dark-2.html

sel3ctive said:

one more question. It just dawned on me that once I have a scrog going on its going to be really hard to drain my saucers how exactly do you grow? If its going to hinder me being able to get a full view of each plant then I dont think scrog is the right route for me.

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Turkey basters work good, takes a couple minutes though if you have 25%+ run off.