60 Plant Grow Setup

Trenton,

Until now i have sat back and watched this grow. We grow on similar scales.
You too use the same media.

I too purchased Foxfarms early to mid december. I now have a massive afid problem.

These are problems usually found in older gardens that have had massive pest problems.
What i did was move my old mothers. Did your clones come in dirt?

Reguardless thinking that a simple spraying will rid these is silly.

is this your bug ?

if this is your bug and you say you have hundreds of them, then you are in serious trouble. I have been fighting these for 3 weeks. In my white trays around certain plants there are hundereds. i used a predator last week ( Hypoaspis Aculeifer ) i released 20,000 in 44 pots. 10 days later i am in deep doo doo.

If you read back i kept asking about that yellowing you showed, if you read through i asked 2 seperate times, While Everyone is giving you the high 5 i was worried, When You and i get a problem trenton it gets big. if you are killing hundreds right now the plants are starting to yellow slightly towards the bottom, some small black spots. you will start to see wilting, or effects that resemble overwatering.

Nearly 10 days later i am very depressed, it seems as if they are taking over. 3 different areas all seriously infected.

I was supposed to start fresh and nearly got the mites under contol. next thing i know holy shit..... i have spent alot of time over the last week on this. i really would like to know your plan to rid yourself of these.

i was seroiusly thinking of treating all my new plants with Imidacloprid this takes 4-8 weeks. but kills the bugs from inside your plant! just takes a few weeks to go from soil to plant to pest.

the next thing they say is lady bugs,

However they dont really work the root zone. i think lady bugs thrive on normal afids, root afids suck sap from the roots and normal feed on stalks stems and leaves. Expecting lady bugs to help is a long shot,

However i ordered 7500 today, they are supposed to eat up to 400 a day. they claim they will stay till the food is gone and continue to lay eggs.

i am over 125.00 in allready this is the last effort, after the lady bugs , i am going to
soil treat with Imidicloprid , do a full drench with .03 liquid pyrethris. then i will follow with D. E .. the Earth will hopefully inhibit reinfestation.

i read if i treat with liquid pyrethris every 2 days this should kill them, however i am concerned about the effect of this on the plants so i tested it on one. i have not had a chance to follow up, yet.. Also i did this on a hydro grow and the dead bugs in the root mass created more problems

I went through a massive root aphid attack a few months back, and I seem to have it under control at this point. I grow in Hydroton, in buckets, and in Coco in baskets. The way that I fought them off is with GoGnat, and alot of Cannazym to help with the dead bugs. GoGnat is pretty much Cedar oil and soap, and a few other sub ingredients. I felt like the pyrethis "bugbuster" hurt the plants more then it helped, especially in rockwool and the coco. So any how, I hope this helps a little, at least you know you are not the only one with a bug problem! BTW I received these little fuckers from some clones from Mendo county....

I think the insect problems are getting worse for us all. I've got thrips again. i sterilised my area thouroughly after the last grow, even had a 3-4 week break, nothing growing. Now they're back...

I caught a ladybird (ladybug) and placed it by my plants. It's still there and the thrip population has dwindled considerably. To the point where it's now difficult to find one. This is just one ladybird for 8 plants, well 6 plants. Two of the plants are under intense UV, there are no thrips on those.

muah-ha-ha-ha-haaa

Anyway, i think this insect thing is just going to get worse and worse for all of us. I've seen many plants that look like insect damage on these boards and people given advice for nute problems.

These things I have are really tiny and they camouflage themselves against the plants... but they can move really quick when they want to.

We will learn how to deal with them proper in time...I have had the hardest time with bugs that live below the soil...Above, they are fair game, but below, they hide and recover...

the aproach they suggested was to attack through the plant.

Imidacloprid goes in the soil, then transfers to the plant. Now the plant has this pesticide in its sap, they eat the roots THEY DIE if you google the term it explains the effects on humans and animals also

Sounds like it will work, but man, I grow for people that have health issues in the first place...I have a hard time thinking that there is no residual traces of Imidacloprid in dried buds...Any thoughts? BTW I have an allergy to marijuana, and let me tell you, it sucks!

Well if you read further that ADVANTIX (flea meds) for your animals is

Imidacloprid, it states we piss it right out. this is a new pesticide however they use it on a wide varitey of crops

Please give it a try! Let me know how it works for you! I don't feel like I am against the fence right now with BUGS, but I have been, and you feel like doing anything that will kill the little bastards! Has Trenton confirmed that what he has are root aphids?

Something tells me that these Aphids can live in the soil too. Is this correct? Is so, should I add something to my water that will kill them in the soil??

I think you need to read some prior posts Trenton...

trenton said:

Something tells me that these Aphids can live in the soil too. Is this correct? Is so, should I add something to my water that will kill them in the soil??

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from what i have read you are correct, every 2 days for 6 watering cycles

this problem has turned out to be very interesting. very educational. I wish i knew the ravages of such aphids for my first grow, which i arogantly diagnosed as nute def/burn (lumping them together shouldve been my first clue).
Listen to the guys with the rep trenton, the guys with the big post numbers, ones that know their shit!

aBudSmoker - that pic was of a normal aphid right? if not, how the hell did u dig out a root-aphid without destroying it?

i've never even heard of half this stuff. where are you guys finding all this?


my buddy had white flies. he swore they were leaf hoppers. i said no, first off leaf hoppers aren't a problem in this area. second off that looks nothing like a leaf hopper. he said BS, it was on one of my leaves and i saw it hop. i gotta go...........

Wowzers! Not like you didn't know but having those bugs is a real stinker! I actually don't know, because I havent started growing anything yet. I'm just learning as much as I can so that when I do I can handle whatever comes my way. Good luck Trent!

whats the status T?????? you figure anything out yet or you been napping like me....

granitestate said:

aBudSmoker - that pic was of a normal aphid right? if not, how the hell did u dig out a root-aphid without destroying it?

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oh no need to dig out they are all over the root zone.
i just picked one up.


I will go in more detail later, i have to go under the knife in a few hours. after i get out of the hospital later today, i will get the next step.


this issue is a really pisser for me, it will be nice to see how trenton handles it. i am doing lots of tests but nothing has dropped the numbers yet!

CALIGROWN said:

whats the status T?????? you figure anything out yet or you been napping like me....

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nappin one of my favorite hobbies.