How do you really think you can be objective when you obviously have a preconceived notion based on some lengthy post you made in the past, which you hold so dearly.
That 'lengthy post I made in the past'... I made about a week ago for the sole purpose of gathering arguments from (many) defoliators on my side of the big pond. People that have been growing high quantities for years, pay their bills with it. My approach - even despite the catchy title - was objective. Don't have to agree, don't have to like it, but your assumption that I'm just sticking to something I said in the past is incorrect (exactly your type of reasoning, in huge contrast to mine).
You can go ahead and "take a stand" as if it's some religion you're defending and argue with the other side, but don't expect me to be there, no need to 'project' me there either.
Your arguments are inconsistent. One study posted you simply dismiss because it's based on grapes. Then another you go into detail to debunk a different grape study -- it's still about grapes right, so by you're theory your debunking is invalid.
You're just being a smartass here. No offense, I smiled
Not helpful though, won't lead you to find any truth. My arguments to not defoliate are very consistent. I did not debunk the second article, I have no reason to not believe what is in it. I assume it's true. And indeed, it applies as little to MJ (imo, did you notice the explicit "personally"...), but, if anything.... considering how some (not me
personally...) value the comparison to fruits and veggies it could be, at most, used as an argument to not defoliate. Would you rather have I wouldn't have pointed it out and so he and others including you can fool yourselves that it's a valid argument to defoliate (rhetorical... pretty sure pointing out what I did is the right thing to do) Come on... I even took the high road and didn't saying what a f*** dumba.... and a bunch of wall smilies...
Also, your "7 truths" are not true in every case. Sorry.
Again you show "your" thinking, not mine. Why sorry? If you were actually be able to debunk those truths with valid arguments and sources to back it up, I'd be thankful. The proper thing to say would be "you're welcome". "I" don't feel attacked when you say I'm wrong (unlike vice versa...). Go through some of my older posts in similar threads and you'll find exceptions... I could make a way more convincing defoliator than you'll ever be.
I know, I argued quite a bit with myself (yeah... amazing what the human brain can do if you stay objective and open minded). See step 2 in a previous post.
I don't have a preference like most of you actually do seem to have (why!?
). So unlike you, I don't have the need to convince myself or anyone else for that matter. I like to make informed decisions and encourage others to do the same. If someone wants to add more 'knowledge' on which I can 'base' decisions I love to hear it. Please let it be relevant, accurate, preferably complete, verifiable, timely and none of the 10 or so basic fallacies...
Squabble, squabble, blah blah, yakkety-yak! 
