advanced nutrients vs. fox farm

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fdd2blk

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Mark5:9 said:
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Ok, Ben we get it. You don't like marketing.. lol Why are you saying the same thing over and over and over again? We get it.. you're stuck in your ways. Nothing new, It happens all the time.

We're the newfangled whipper snappers that are going to take over the world.

If you're throwing a fit over AN then whatever you do don't read about the 'yellow' bottles.. LOL

P.S. Ben you did mention Bud Blood before and I know how ignorant you are of 'modern' products, that was my mistake for not posting the N-P-K. You seem to have it mixed up with Bud Candy.. Bud Blood is 0-39-25.
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this is an insult and worthy of an infraction.

i'm sitting right here watching. :shock:
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Mark5:9 said:
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Ok, Ben we get it.
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"We" dont' think so, and "we" still haven't seen your garden, have "we"?

P.S. Ben you did mention Bud Blood before and I know how ignorant you are of 'modern' products, that was my mistake for not posting the N-P-K. You seem to have it mixed up with Bud Candy.. Bud Blood is 0-39-25.
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Bud Candy, Bud Blood, it's all the same for junk food junkies. For starts, a 0-39-25 WILL NOT promote flowering because it will induce premature leaf drop. Only seasoned gardeners would comprehend that fact.

fdd2blk said:
you all spend too much money on crap, ... https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/24703-its-all-bullsh-t.html
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Nice post, and great looking plant. Amazing what a box of Walmart food will do.

UB
 
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Mark5:9

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Uncle Ben said:
"We" dont' think so, and "we" still haven't seen your garden, have "we"?

Bud Candy, Bud Blood, it's all the same for junk food junkies. For starts, a 0-39-25 WILL NOT promote flowering because it will induce premature leaf drop. Only seasoned gardeners would comprehend that fact.



Nice post, and great looking plant. Amazing what a box of Walmart food will do.

UB
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Ben is the guy that argues with a chef about how mac-n-cheese out of the box is the same as from scratch. How you don't need milk, it just makes it runny.. or what ever.

The fact is Ben it is a waste of time trying to explain how you use these products you keep jumping to conclusions when you don't have an clue as to how it's used or what other people say that have used it. You choose not to know, you choose not to try it, you choose not to look into it and you choose not to listen.
 
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fdd2blk

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Mark5:9 said:
Ben is the guy that argues with a chef about how mac-n-cheese out of the box is the same as from scratch. How you don't need milk, it just makes it runny.. or what ever.

The fact is Ben it is a waste of time trying to explain how you use these products you keep jumping to conclusions when you don't have an clue as to how it's used or what other people say that have used it. You choose not to know, you choose not to try it, you choose not to look into it and you choose not to listen.
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one more and you get a free vacation. :)
 
jberry

jberry

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theloadeddragon said:
"crap" makes plants grow great :D
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so very true..... most people start with walmart food but after trying it out and being disapointed, they move onto crap and actually start to prefer the crap... im stoked on what crap snake oils have done for me...:joint:
 
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Mark5:9

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So back to the topic.

In one corner you have Fox Farm. They've been around for a long long time and have a really good reputation. As some of you know they also make some of the best potting soil around. If you're lucky enough to live in the area you can get it for 'dirt' cheap. Ocean Forest being their flagship with Happy Frog rounding it out. Fox Farm makes maybe 20 or so products if you count all the happy frog and peace of mind stuff.

In my book FF works fine. I've set up friends with FF before and they are not 'plant' people and they were able to make it work for them real easy.

And in this corner we have AN. The bad boys of the industry. They have Urban Grower, Brown Dirt Warrior, and my friend Erik B in their corner. Hmmm.. A bit unfair if you ask me.. but this is how it was laid out. People may not like them as people but a lot of people like their nutrients.

Fox Farm will send you samples (well they did to me) if want them. I got the three part bloom powder things. AN is not big on the samples but summer is just around the corner. Keep in touch with you local hydroshop as they will be going around doing 'vender days' where the rep is on site so you can ask him directly and they give out lots of shirts, and nutes. One of the best ones I was at was for Canna. They gave out 1,000 of dollars of stuff. Hydrofarm gave away a 1k hps system.. Good times...

Anyhow, if you're going to look into AN then this is what I'd run.

Sensi A+B Grow & Bloom
Bud Blood (once 2nd week of bloom)
Big Bud (week 3-5)
Overdrive (week 5 - 7)
and a little Bud Candy (all flower)

Last week, just pain water.
 
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Mark5:9

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All the products I've mentioned are not organic except the two soils. FF has some organic nutes but for the most part people use Grow Big and Tiger Bloom. Both are not organic but they have big bloom and that is organic but it's just an additive.

AN has a few organic products but they aren't that popular.
 
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Mark5:9

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On another note.. think about where your money is going.. Do you want to support some mid western chemical company or some heads that make a good food for you and what you grow? I'd keep in the family if you ask me.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Mark5:9 said:
I'd keep in the family if you ask me.
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Thank you, you just made my case. It's all about an ideology. Enjoy taking it in the gluteus maximus.

The organic push is also hype, it's all about the money. "Chemicals" is not a dirty word, if it was, then your precious organics could not do their job, which is dependent on providing chemicals LOL.

Long live Monsanto, BASF, Bayer and the rest of the companies that have made our life rich and bountiful.

UB
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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jberry said:
so very true..... most people start with walmart food but after trying it out and being disapointed, they move onto crap and actually start to prefer the crap... im stoked on what crap snake oils have done for me...:joint:
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I'll be the judge of that. Got some pix fer me?
 
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