the seedman
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floros are good for a while befor the outdoor season, like now
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How would law enforcement stop them, I haven't given any real deatils of shipping addresses and short of sifting through all mail from Britain they would shit out of luck I know they are a little more careful with packages and letters from holland but to even consider cracking down on the sheer volume of mail from britain is rediculous especially when i get the package less than 2 days from them popping it in a post box.I could just be outta place saying this but to me it doesnt sound very wise to annouce places that get into Aus? All you need is a clever coppa to see that and make future purchases hard. As i said might be talking shit here but just mho.
Im assuming you mean for outdoor? If so yer the others answered it fairly well. If you mean indoors anytime really. I got mine smack bang middle of winter and they worked. Just make sure you keep heat up to them. Also the others suggested CFL but after using them for my veg then switching to HPS i could not disagree with CFL more!! I know im quite noob but i would highly recomend at least getting a decent light setup as for me at least that made a MASSIVE difference. It doesnt seem worth going to all the hassel of growing with all the risks and what not just to skimp on the basics. Yes im rambling a bit but this all said i guess if your using JUST for germinating and a few weeks CFL would work i guess. A fairly experienced mate told me i wouldnt wanna really veg with CFL for more than 2-3 weeks.
How would law enforcement stop them, I haven't given any real deatils of shipping addresses and short of sifting through all mail from Britain they would shit out of luck I know they are a little more careful with packages and letters from holland but to even consider cracking down on the sheer volume of mail from britain is rediculous especially when i get the package less than 2 days from them popping it in a post box.
Second I vegged 50 plants to 8-10 inches under flouro's (3 weeks old) just fine you could get them a little larger but fluoro's don't have the penetration so short of having lights on either side and the top they aren't really effective after week 3-4 however a month is still a huge advance on the growing season especially considering germ in early aug plant in early sept (don't switch to flower by mid sept when daylight hours are over 12) and they start to flower in late march early april thats 8 months of veg time which is more then enough to time to grow a monster. Have a look at Kangrativa's grows I became aquainted with him just this week he too grows in NSW and grows absolute F-ing monsters in 8 months.
Not having a go mate, did kinda sound angry didn't I no harm meant.lol relax mate, im in no way calling anyone out just raising a few concerns as i never ordered before so didnt no how it all works. As for the fluro yes you can get decent sized plants but the nodes will be so far apart as apposed to short lil fatties. I used CFL and they worked a treat but HPS smashed CFL with performance. I grew a 5' tall hermi under fluro and 3' tall hermi under HPS and the 3' yielded more in the end coz thier was more bang for your buck so to speak. Once again though this is only personal prefence and in no way saying its the be all or end all.
haha na all good man everyone has thier own pref and opinions on things and for everyone who says method "a" works will have someone else who says method "b" is better. As for your setup. Im not 100% sure about the lumens and all (i know the more the better) but for around $140 you can grab a nice 600w HPS with ballast and all the other bells and whistles. Im somewhat tempted to run parra tests with same system using CFL from start to finish and at the same time grow another with MH and HPS but i just dont have the room, time, experience to do it very scientiffically.Not having a go mate, did kinda sound angry didn't I no harm meant.
HPS is always going to be superior but for $120 i got 7 dual fluoro battens and ~ 45000 lumens and they worked a treat for prepping my outdoor crop. Vegging under fluoros is about all they really excel at not so good for flower ( though I do have a CFL grow going)
Nodes are closer as you can keep the light so close and a small plant needs less lumens (1-10 inches) all my plants had nodes that were barely half a centremetre apart thats with ~50 plants under 10 6500k 4 foot 36w tubes. All the people I have encountered on the internet and various other forums had the same issue and you cannot simply raise fluoro's because of the loss of lumens.
Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one.haha na all good man everyone has thier own pref and opinions on things and for everyone who says method "a" works will have someone else who says method "b" is better. As for your setup. Im not 100% sure about the lumens and all (i know the more the better) but for around $140 you can grab a nice 600w HPS with ballast and all the other bells and whistles. Im somewhat tempted to run parra tests with same system using CFL from start to finish and at the same time grow another with MH and HPS but i just dont have the room, time, experience to do it very scientiffically.
Well if you managed to get ur nodes to be so short you seem to be doing something right as while they were seedlings yer they were slow to grow (in comparison to mates who grew same strain but under MH) but i managed to get small nodes too. However the second they reached half a foot or so the nodes became really spaced out.
Meh after this grow im HOPEFULLY going to grow DWC under MH and HPS. But i might leave it a few months so i can let me nerves settle. Toking up (i get very paranoid when baked) and doing this type of stuff plays on the nerves alot everytime i see choppers fly overhead =P
I MUST AGREE...I WOULD SO LOVE TO HAVE AN MH IN MY VEG ROOM...BUT AS IT IS,I HAVE 3 TWIN FIXTURE FLUOROS IN THE MINIMUM SPACE THEY COVER AND IT MAKES IT A LIL WARM IN THERE...GOOD WARM THO...NOT HOTOpinions are like arseholes everyone has one.
$140 for a 600w HPS where cheapest I could find is ~$300 mark with a ballast and reflector, and DWC is the bomb. The reason for Fluoro tubes is ease of concealment and the little heat they put off, as well as cheap and easy to get bulbs.
discount hydro on ebay have em for around thatOpinions are like arseholes everyone has one.
$140 for a 600w HPS where cheapest I could find is ~$300 mark with a ballast and reflector, and DWC is the bomb. The reason for Fluoro tubes is ease of concealment and the little heat they put off, as well as cheap and easy to get bulbs.
JESUS, how prices have dropped since I bought my 600w setup.discount hydro on ebay have em for around that
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wait for someone with more knowledge to confirm but they dont look too ready? Not very frosty and buds still small. To assist in when to harvest why not post the strain and how long you have had them in flowerupdate on my cannababies when should i harvest? is it when all pistils are brown? sorry about the quality of pics, shitty camera!