Barney's Farm Blue Cheese/G13 Labs Power Skunk

Thanks for the update, Dodge. I cut the bag seed grow today and got what I think was a load. 16 big colas, 14 side branch colas ( I Fimmed that plant like a mofo) and enough air buds to fill the lid of a 18 gallon res 2" thick. Really think the 250 HPS and Liquid Karma did me well. Having more experience helps a bunch too. My first problem free grow!

No way I can fit a PS in my room! Gives you options though! I'm in love with the Blue Cheese! I especially like that last pick. Down the shoot! Looks about 3-4 weeks from being done to me but it could finish fast. It's like a loaded gun ready to fire! That stem thinknes and branching is impressive! Shit gonna happen all over!

Right now I'm floating on some finger hash from manicuring my grow this afternoon. Your fingers get all sticky and if you rub them together in little circles you can get little resin balls of pure trichomes. Scape your scissors also. One little BB sized ball gets two people really, really stoned! It took me 45 min. to type this!

MostlyCrazy said:

Thanks for the update, Dodge. I cut the bag seed grow today and got what I think was a load. 16 big colas, 14 side branch colas ( I Fimmed that plant like a mofo) and enough air buds to fill the lid of a 18 gallon res 2" thick. Really think the 250 HPS and Liquid Karma did me well. Having more experience helps a bunch too. My first problem free grow!

No way I can fit a PS in my room! Gives you options though! I'm in love with the Blue Cheese! I especially like that last pick. Down the shoot! Looks about 3-4 weeks from being done to me but it could finish fast. It's like a loaded gun ready to fire! That stem thinknes and branching is impressive! Shit gonna happen all over!

Right now I'm floating on some finger hash from manicuring my grow this afternoon. Your fingers get all sticky and if you rub them together in little circles you can get little resin balls of pure trichomes. Scape your scissors also. One little BB sized ball gets two people really, really stoned! It took me 45 min. to type this!

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LMFAO! S.O.B. It's always something with u huh? LOL. Damn bro, sounds like u got some major bud. The BC get flushed this weekend. Though they don't look ready, their timing is about up. I don't know what I'm gonna do with all that new growth ur talkin about. I was thinking about harvesting wat I could and letting the rest finish up. i don't know if that's possible. Or I will be making some hash. Cause those bottom insides are covered in trichs. 16 colas? Did u top twice? I did with the ones vegging now. They look so good man. I'm gonna update that grow in a sec. I'm debating on putting the new grow into flowering this weekend. I got a 400 watter and another 1000(which I WILL NOT be using, I can only imagine my bill this month) If not when the BC is done. I'm thing maybe stick the 400 w in the other corner and get them started. The PS should be done in another 3 weeks or less ,so go ahead and get the new grow sexed with the 400 w and when the PS is done, put the new grow under the 1000 watter. Sounds like a plan actually. HMmmmmm! Will debate on this the next few days. Any opinions? -Dodge

drdodge29 said:

I had had a problem with sweetners(General Hydroponics FloraNectar), but for some reason the PS loves the sweetner. Nothing has happened to my res, as the other 5 res did. I just changed out the res for the PS and added some more sweentner and it's been 3 days and water is lookin great. Temperature had a big issue I think. I'm going to cunduct a test with temp and that sweetner. I have a feeling once it's in the res, the temp can't go above 72 or the sweetner turns/spoils. Which is funny cause it's stored in mid 70's temp. I guess once it's mixed w/ the water and nutes, since it's organic sweetner, it probably cause a reaction to it. I will conduct test and get back with results.

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What is this about GH "sweeteners"? Never heard of such a thing myself. Can I get a link for what you're talking about? Also, keeping the res temperature below 72 would be quite a challenge for me given my technique. You're still just using one 400 though right? That wouldn't make it too hard in your case I guess though. Damn, that PS is a lanky one! Good luck.

Mcgician said:

What is this about GH "sweeteners"? Never heard of such a thing myself. Can I get a link for what you're talking about? Also, keeping the res temperature below 72 would be quite a challenge for me given my technique. You're still just using one 400 though right? That wouldn't make it too hard in your case I guess though. Damn, that PS is a lanky one! Good luck.

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Hope this is of some help to u. As far as the temp..... U HAVE TO KEEP IT UNDER 72! Don't try to go against my advice brother. The guy at the supply store didn't bother to tell me that and it did a number on my roots. I almost lost my babies at week 4 of flowering. Once that res hits over 72 degrees for a decent amount of time ur res is gonna look like crap. There will be some kind of reaction to the nutes+Sweetner or something. The FloraNectar will start to curl. And then become a glob of nastiness, that will cling and suffucate ur roots. It happened in 6 different res so it wasn't just 1 bad mistake. I had to figure out for myself that I couldn't allow my temp to reach past 72. And normally it takes a few days before my res hits past 72 degrees, but I don't risk it anymore. My res will normally hit 67-70 within 12 hours and stay there a couple of days. BUT I STILL cool my res down twice a day. I just find the plant are soing so much better now. I'll drop a 2 liter of ice in each of my res for about 20-30 minutes and bring that res down to 60-62 degrees and she's good for 12 hours. Normally in 12 hours the res are at 67 degrees but being that I don't want to chance it getting hot in the room and my res going over 72 degrees so I cool my res back down to 60-62 degreesAnd the only reason why I bring my res down to 60 is within an hour she's at 62 degrees. I have upgraded to a 1000 watter a few weeks ago, which has really helped with the flowering. But even with the 400 w, I was still having to keep my res cool. Not as much when I didn't use that FloraNectar. Before I started to us that FloraNectar, it wasn't a problem. If my res hit 73 degrees, nothing would happen. even if it hit 77, nothing. Just cool it back down. The roots would have any affect from it. I also use Dutch Master Zone for my roots. As far as the PS The nodes are about an inch away as they were suppose to be. It was free though so I can't bitch. PLUS it was a great learning plant. They're very forgiving plants. VERY easy to grow + they seem to be pest resistant. I have SM and they don't seem to mess with the PS. Also the PS smells VERY VERY SWEEEEEEEEET! I love the smell. Despite what I've read on the internet, people bashing PS and the seed company that gave them for FREE(they seem to forget it FREE), I highly recommend the PS to anyone who can make it bushy. It seemed bushy in veg. The ones I have in veg now are a little bushier. And shorter than the one I got in flower now. The one in flower went into flower at almost 2 feet. This one is only 14-15 inches. Well see. Hey like I said I'm learning with them. It's def. a great strain to learn with, cause no matter what u'll get some sweet smelling nugs. Even if it's a small amount.

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Now these first pics are of my 6 foot tall Power Skunk. She has about 100 or so of these buds/nugs on her. Seems like the nugs are startin to stretch. Not sure if that's right. What was a little ball of hair is now stretching into wat I'm hoping looks like will soon be big buds. Check the pics out 4urself and gimme some input. When I tell u there's a shit load of these popcorn buds, I am not exaggerating. And they smell so, so sweet. My whole place reeks because of that and 1 of my BC's. I had had a problem with sweeteners(General Hydroponics FloraNectar), but for some reason the PS loves the sweetener. Nothing has happened to my res, as the other 5 res did. I just changed out the res for the PS and added some more sweetener and it's been 3 days and water is lookin great. Temperature had a big issue I think. I'm going to conduct a test with temp and that sweetener. I have a feeling once it's in the res, the temp can't go above 72 or the sweetener turns/spoils. Which is funny cause it's stored in mid 70's temp. I guess once it's mixed w/ the water and nutes, since it's organic sweetener, it probably cause a reaction to it. I will conduct test and get back with results.

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I actually forgot about this test. I have not had a problem with my FloraNectar since I have starting keepin my res under 72 degrees. I have since added it to my BC res, once again, on the last res change this weekend, with no problems occuring. Once again the urgency of the res temp staying optimum is a NECESSITY, I can't emphasize that enough!

I use 3 small frozen water bottles to cool my res when the time arrives. Do it in the morning and it hold the res onthe down low for the rest of the day. If summer heats up the room, I'll use 6 frozen water bottles ( 3 in the am and 3 in the early pm) Didn;t use the nectar and don't plan to. Liquid Karma worked well the last grow and the roots from 4 plants filled my res. At the end it was only holding 4 1/2 gallons. After my recent cut I have this root ball of twine to play with!

Dodge, Not a bad plan. I might think about a partial harves on the BC if I had a PS hanging around to finish anyway.

Yeah I topped at 3 weeks and 5 weeks and even did a little at 6 weeks. Those little shoots come flying out of both sides of the cut. A week later they were 3" long or better. Actually I Fimmed instead of topped. You get some grow back on your almost cut and in some cases I got a three headed monster at the end of the branch.

Since looking around I've heard of a lot of guys doing a partial harvest. The mostly do it on trich color but at some point you can look at them and know they are ready.

I forgot, is your grow in a seperate room/area? Nothing saying you can't set the grow off to flower by going to 12/12 while in the grow area is there? I did that last grow. They were sitting in the grow room all nice and pretty with alternating branches so I thought I'd cheat a little and go 12/12 on the CFL and then moved them to the real flower room when the other grow was done.

MostlyCrazy said:

I use 3 small frozen water bottles to cool my res when the time arrives. Do it in the morning and it hold the res onthe down low for the rest of the day. If summer heats up the room, I'll use 6 frozen water bottles ( 3 in the am and 3 in the early pm) Didn;t use the nectar and don't plan to. Liquid Karma worked well the last grow and the roots from 4 plants filled my res. At the end it was only holding 4 1/2 gallons. After my recent cut I have this root ball of twine to play with!

Dodge, Not a bad plan. I might think about a partial harves on the BC if I had a PS hanging around to finish anyway.

Yeah I topped at 3 weeks and 5 weeks and even did a little at 6 weeks. Those little shoots come flying out of both sides of the cut. A week later they were 3" long or better. Actually I Fimmed instead of topped. You get some grow back on your almost cut and in some cases I got a three headed monster at the end of the branch.

Since looking around I've heard of a lot of guys doing a partial harvest. The mostly do it on trich color but at some point you can look at them and know they are ready.

I forgot, is your grow in a seperate room/area? Nothing saying you can't set the grow off to flower by going to 12/12 while in the grow area is there? I did that last grow. They were sitting in the grow room all nice and pretty with alternating branches so I thought I'd cheat a little and go 12/12 on the CFL and then moved them to the real flower room when the other grow was done.

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That is a good idea. I just figured 160 watts wouldn't do shit, BUT I can at least start the sexing then push them into the flower room when ready in 3 weeks. I'll definitely be considering that. The small bottle actually work very well(I have a few 16 oz bottles also. but with 6 Res I found toting 2 liters is way easier and not that much of a workout. As far as the FloraNectar, I really recommend it. It's not like Liquid Karma, though LK claims to enhance taste and smell also. This is specifically a sweetener. Specifically for taste and smell. I also think it might help a little in flowering hardening, though it's MAIN purpose is for releasing the oils/sugar to the flowers. Just as people put molasses for taste and flavor. That's what thi9s stuff is. It contains Raw Sugar Cane, Molasses, and Malt Extract. It is also rich in Potash(1%), Magnesium(0.5%), and Sulfur(0.5%). Plus my nute company advises against seaweed kelp, whick LK is rich in. Apparently it'll burn my plants if I'm not mistaken. I use Dutch Master Gold and it is very strong. Actually it's a pain in the ass at first till u figure out the freaking thing is too strong. Now that I've figured out NOT to follow the nute chart from DM. I actually still follow their chart, I just use 3/4 of what they claim to use, and it's worked out pretty well so far.
I have topped off ALL my babies to have 4 tops. Lets see how that works. I have also curt a bunch of lower branches. No need for them. Will only take away from the tops, for what? So I decided to cut quite a few branches during the Veg grow. It's turned out pretty well. These PS in Veg now are getting bushy, unlike the last one. MORE BUDS! On top sites also, not at the bottom where light barely gets to. These newer plants are doing really good. Hope they fill me lungs with great smoke. Well Brother, back in the room to cool off res. Sucks they won't be done this week. One of my friends is opening up for a Raggae/Rock band called 311 and we'll probably get to go backstage but I won't have any of my fruits to bring. It'll have to be "corporate bought weed". Damn the MAN! Keeps holding us down! It'll be some Dank Name Brand Hydro Strain but @ $65 an eighth, it is highway robbery! BASTARDS! If these people that sell me bud only knew!
It's funny cause my boy will bring me some Killer Beasters trying to pass it off as "Headies". I've heard "Man I know the grower. He flushes his shit for so long. He really knows what he's doing. Trust me I've seen his grow and I know how to grow. I AM A GROWER! This stuff is "headies". At which point I really just want to tell him to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" and introduce him to what real "headies" look and smell like while being grown. I wish it was legal so I could do that. Dodge

Got two people who have seen my grow. My wife and my dealer/long time friend (once about 3 grows back). The only people who have smoked mine other than me are the same people. Sharezees must be handled discreetly. Took everything I had not to show when another friend of mine showed me the biggest bud he had seen. Felt like Crocadile Dundee - You call that a bud! Here's a bud!

6 res! I'd be worn out. Hey Dodge, if they have Four Tops you ought to sing/play Sugar Pie, Honey bunch when you load with the nectar! Ok that's the finger hash talking but got that song in your head didn't I! LOL!

MostlyCrazy said:

Got two people who have seen my grow. My wife and my dealer/long time friend (once about 3 grows back). The only people who have smoked mine other than me are the same people. Sharezees must be handled discreetly. Took everything I had not to show when another friend of mine showed me the biggest bud he had seen. Felt like Crocadile Dundee - You call that a bud! Here's a bud!

6 res! I'd be worn out. Hey Dodge, if they have Four Tops you ought to sing/play Sugar Pie, Honey bunch when you load with the nectar! Ok that's the finger hash talking but got that song in your head didn't I! LOL!

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LMFAO! U and ur fuckin finger Hash! I can't even remember the last time I had anything on my fingers. Pussy, lte alone Hash. LMFAO! Just kiddin. Wife let's me dip in the sugar bowl. LMFAO! Yeah 6 res, LAST TIME! acyually no it isn't. I'll be doing those 5 gallon paint Buckets from now on. A hell of a lot more room. I recommend u try it if u haven't. Are u using ur SH all the way. Dude it cost $3 for one of those buckets w/ lid. I made a hole for my air pump hose. Covered it in aluminum tape and VOILA! My 2 PS in vegging are in 1. I have 1 empty 1 I'm not using yet. I plan on getting 3 more here in a few. Once I placed my PS in those bucket they bushed out. They had more room to grow. From now on I will germinate and grow a few weeks in the 10 gallon res. Then once my roots hit the watar and I remove the feeding pump, I will be transplanting to those 5 gallon buckets. Try 1 plant in those. I highly recommend it. When I get enough money I want to invest in 1 of those Ebb & Gro(not flow) . I think they're the best. DWC is DWC no matter what, whether SH or Ebb & FLow. It's the same concept. So the results will be the same if not better. the only people who also seen my grow are 4 people. My neighbor/friend who also is growing. AND my wife and 2 kids which one is 17 years old and the other is 19. They smoke also. Now I've got probably 6 people who know I grow outside those people but they don't even live near me. Closest one is in New Jersey and Atlanta and they're both a minimum of 6 hours away and a min. of 3 states over. AND 2 of them are my younger brothers who are dying for this to be done so they can get some. The other 2 people is my 2 best friends from my teenage years. I fully trust both of them AND what can they really do being 500 miles away from me, not knowing my address. NOT MUCH. I'm more p-noided about the neighbors upstairs. The Apartment really gets sinky when I open the grow room door. My wife told me today she thought she could smell it from outside, which got me P-noided than a S.O.B. I' m hoping she was looking for the smell and it tricked her into smelling it. I went out there and smelled it and smelled nothing. I called my neighbor from downstairs and asked him to come and take a whiff. My wife was breweing coffee at the moment so he said when he walked up all he could smell was coffee from outside. I live in a pretty hidden apartment building which is actually hidden. It's not ur regular Apartment buildings. This guy built 2 apartment building in the woods in his backyard, So u have to drive up his driveway to get to our parking lot. Our parking lot is actually private property. So that kind of helps a little, know they're not just gonna park outside my house and watch cause they would get their cover blown. It's kinda hard survailling this place unless ur in a Chopper. Il'' vbe up for a while if ur gonna be on here. Dodge

^^^I've used that setup myself. Worked well for many years, and the best thing about it was that it allows for more clearance between the light(s) and the plants if they need it. One thing I would definitely keep an eye on using that type system is to make sure all your connections/grommets stay water-tight. I used it in an upstairs apartment (I know, pretty stupid looking back) for a couple of years and I came back from school one day and the downstairs neighbor said water was dripping through his ceiling! Not sure if he bought my story about having a waterbed spring a leak, (especially since the water was coming through his closet area too!) but somehow the landlord of the complex never got involved and I didn't even get fined for having a "waterbed" and nothing came of it. I'd say that was REALLY lucky. After that, I was checking those connections ALL the time, and never had another disaster like that. I ended up selling that system to a buddy of mine because I got sick of having to clean out the hydrocorn each time and went to a drip feed rockwool slab method instead. Being able to just chuck those out and use new ones the next time around saved me a lot of time and elbow grease.

About the FloraNectar, is that basically the same thing as adding corn syrup or mollasses then? If so, does that mean the temperature of those also need to be kept under 72?

Mcgician said:

^^^I've used that setup myself. Worked well for many years, and the best thing about it was that it allows for more clearance between the light(s) and the plants if they need it. One thing I would definitely keep an eye on using that type system is to make sure all your connections/grommets stay water-tight. I used it in an upstairs apartment (I know, pretty stupid looking back) for a couple of years and I came back from school one day and the downstairs neighbor said water was dripping through his ceiling! Not sure if he bought my story about having a waterbed spring a leak, (especially since the water was coming through his closet area too!) but somehow the landlord of the complex never got involved and I didn't even get fined for having a "waterbed" and nothing came of it. I'd say that was REALLY lucky. After that, I was checking those connections ALL the time, and never had another disaster like that. I ended up selling that system to a buddy of mine because I got sick of having to clean out the hydrocorn each time and went to a drip feed rockwool slab method instead. Being able to just chuck those out and use new ones the next time around saved me a lot of time and elbow grease.

About the FloraNectar, is that basically the same thing as adding corn syrup or mollasses then? If so, does that mean the temperature of those also need to be kept under 72?

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I don't know about that. I also wouldn't advise puttin either into ur res. Yes I've heard of people do it BUT I myself won't. I'd rather use products made for sweetening my plants. I'm not having pancakes with them. LOL! Seriously though I would advise against putting that stuff in ur tank. BUt if u've have 100% success w/ that let me know so other people can take ur advice. Me personally, as I said, will never put anything like that in my res. I can take raw sugar can and molasses and it wouldn't look like this stuff. I'm sure this stuff is specifically made for plants NOT morning breakfast. I do highly recommend it. Better yet, I recommend Sweet Leaf by Advanced Nutrients. It was $10 more expensive. And times is ruff! SO I went with the next best thing. The Sweet Leaf is said to also increase flowering and helps harden flowers. + it apparently makes ur bud taste like candy. A local grower uses it and MAN. I know it's in the strain but this shit was SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! Just try one of those out. U won't be sorry, as long as u keep the temp thing in mind. As far as the neighbors.... The ones downstairs know. Which is good. Floodin in the Bathroom and they were quick to call. Hopefully nothing like that ever happens to me. As of now I use a DIY Bubbleponics DWC, so I haven't had any problems yet. Thank God! Dodge!

Dodge,

I'm all up for a 5 gallon bucket or two or three or four. Thinking about making my own. Lots of stuff on the net about how to do it. Right now I'm using 1 SH for grow and another for flower. First one in a 5 gal will be a mother but I'm still experimenting with strains. I can smell mine about 4 steps from the top of my stairs. Live on a quiet street (old residential neighborhood) without nosy neighbors. I'm think the guy nest door to me might be growing too ( he used to own a nursery) and since I have a double corner lot my other neighbors are at least 100 feet away and the guy is 99 and doesn't get out much. Both the neighbors leave for the summer so I think I'm good. Got a little cover since I pass some of the commerial stuff to a lawyer and the mayor of this fine city.

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Dodge,

I'm all up for a 5 gallon bucket or two or three or four. Thinking about making my own. Lots of stuff on the net about how to do it. Right now I'm using 1 SH for grow and another for flower. First one in a 5 gal will be a mother but I'm still experimenting with strains. I can smell mine about 4 steps from the top of my stairs. Live on a quiet street (old residential neighborhood) without nosy neighbors. I'm think the guy nest door to me might be growing too ( he used to own a nursery) and since I have a double corner lot my other neighbors are at least 100 feet away and the guy is 99 and doesn't get out much. Both the neighbors leave for the summer so I think I'm good. Got a little cover since I pass some of the commerial stuff to a lawyer and the mayor of this fine city.

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Making ur own wat? Have u seen the buckets I'm talking about. They're easy as shit to grow in. All u need is a 4" round Airstone or make ur own. Check this site out--------> CLICK ON ME! Dude's a genius! ALso check out my other grow in my signature box. The KC BRAINS Brasil Grow

MostlyCrazy said:

Dodge,

I'm all up for a 5 gallon bucket or two or three or four. Thinking about making my own. Lots of stuff on the net about how to do it. Right now I'm using 1 SH for grow and another for flower. First one in a 5 gal will be a mother but I'm still experimenting with strains. I can smell mine about 4 steps from the top of my stairs. Live on a quiet street (old residential neighborhood) without nosy neighbors. I'm think the guy nest door to me might be growing too ( he used to own a nursery) and since I have a double corner lot my other neighbors are at least 100 feet away and the guy is 99 and doesn't get out much. Both the neighbors leave for the summer so I think I'm good. Got a little cover since I pass some of the commerial stuff to a lawyer and the mayor of this fine city.

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Let me ask u a ???? When u lower ur res temp, what do u lower it 2? I lower it to 60 degrees. U think that's cool?

Nice job, I just put in 10 seedlings in 2 aeropods, looking good but I used practice seeds from local reggie. Where do you have your seeds shipped from?

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Nice job, I just put in 10 seedlings in 2 aeropods, looking good but I used practice seeds from local reggie. Where do you have your seeds shipped from?

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UK Click on this Link-------> Attitude Seeds. Here's another good link a buddy of mine, on here, turned me on 2. Click on this Link--------> BC Grown. Haven't used it yet, but I plan on it. Very soon actually. Gonna try the Pineapple 99. Probably order over the summer.

I've seen that site on the grow bucket. Now I need to get a working drill. You're right the rest is easy.

Res temp started this morning around 72.1 and put 3 frozen little 10 oz water bottles and it brought it down to 66.2. 2 degrees per bottle? Cooler is probably better as it holds more oxygen. Took off the ditributor and hose on my pump and let it splash water and that seems to help to. It did last grow and I think it was about 3 degrees.

MostlyCrazy said:

I've seen that site on the grow bucket. Now I need to get a working drill. You're right the rest is easy.

Res temp started this morning around 72.1 and put 3 frozen little 10 oz water bottles and it brought it down to 66.2. 2 degrees per bottle? Cooler is probably better as it holds more oxygen. Took off the ditributor and hose on my pump and let it splash water and that seems to help to. It did last grow and I think it was about 3 degrees.

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U think me hitting 60 degrees for 30 minutes is safe? i know the optimized res temp is 62-70 degrees but is going less really bad? I personally don't think so cause it's not for long, but what do I know? I'm not scientist Jim, I'm a doctor! Gimme ur opinion. Unless u sayin "cooler is probably better" is ur opinion. U sayin u think it's alright? -Dodge

P.S. Have u seen my other journal??????????????????

MostlyCrazy said:

I've seen that site on the grow bucket. Now I need to get a working drill. You're right the rest is easy.

Res temp started this morning around 72.1 and put 3 frozen little 10 oz water bottles and it brought it down to 66.2. 2 degrees per bottle? Cooler is probably better as it holds more oxygen. Took off the ditributor and hose on my pump and let it splash water and that seems to help to. It did last grow and I think it was about 3 degrees.

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By the way I don't want u to think I got a set up like that dude. Mine is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuckin simple, and it's freakin great! All I did was take a Phillips head screw driver, and put flame to it for a bit. Poked a perfect size hole for my air tubing and that's it! Of course I poked the hole after I covered the whole bucket in aluminum tape. That's what I meant was simple. His is easy, but mine is Bubbleponics for Dummies©. LOL! But it's efficient. It works! My plants have more room that way. The 2 PS are bushy as hell for a Sativa. Eventually I might do what he's doing. Or even make a DIY Ebb & Gro. -Dodge

I'm with you on that! Must have been one big ass screwdriver. I did just buy one of those 3 jet butane cigar lighters. Make the pot go poof! real quick. Speaking of poof!, My friend and I torched some of my air buds ( 2 days old) and it wasn't all that harsh. Yummy really! I wanted an opinion from someone not emotionally attached to the plant. We both reported about a 4 hour happy high with a late arriving couch lock and we shared just two bowls. It was one of those "if I take a little nap I'll be fine" and 5 hours later I woke up. . . refreshed! Pretty heavy hitting for such a young one. Have 3 wide mouth mason jars full of air buds and the other buds are drying nicely. I won't need any street weed for quite some time! How's that for an economic stimulus! By the time this gets a full cure it has one hit quiter potential! Strange I don't remember it smoking this strong as I was getting the seeds out. Speaking of air buds, I wonder what would have happened it I partial harvested this. I may try that some time but I had a grow to convert. Maybe I'll just turn the grow to flower under the CFL's while it finishes up and try to max out like you might do with the PS. When I get know genetics that makes even better sense. Youngest is getting married in what the kids call a destination wedding (cruise) in Oct. That sounds about right. Now I just have to time it right. New flower has grown 2" in the last two days and is getting even more bushy with the added light. Have what looks like some female preflower but you never know until they bloom but these are from fem seed so chances are good. Counted the tops I can see from the 3 plants and I have 18 good strong tops right now and a nice level grow with some creative LST. Gonna angle some net pots in the next few days and spread it out a little more and see if some of the junior tips can make it to the canopy. The goal is two dozen. Right now they are flying in the missing man formation but I can fix that! I'm aiming for scrog without a screen.