SoCaldrums
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Didn't say He was easier to *see* (didja notice the part about strawmen/misinterpretation?). You can't see the wind either. You can see the effects of both though.
Belief Without Evidence WTF?
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Finshaggy
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I don't care about that part, you quoted me in the end.
And you can damn well see the wind. I have long hair. Sometimes the wind makes it where I can't see anything else but "the wind" blowing my hair around. So yes, I see the wind all the time. On water, in grass. it moves everything.
God (creator, conscious god) exists only in a book, and in the minds of his followers.
Finshaggy
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So you "Strawmen/Misinterpreted" my posts.
SoCaldrums
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Finshaggy
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Whatever. Yes we have, the wind is obvious. You can even see exactly what it's doing in sand or dust. Ever seen a dirt devil?
RollMeOne420
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Everyone needs to watch this to know the truth
Finshaggy
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That's great, with that avatar.
SoCaldrums
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Holy crap dude...how are we going to have an intelligent discussion if we can't get thru Point #1? You cannot see air. You cannot see wind. You see the AFFECTS of the wind. If you were laying on top of Mt Everest on a cloudless day looking up at the sky, you wouldn't SEE the 80mph wind around you. Why the hell is that so hard to understand?
germania420
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Not true we now have cameras that can detect light diferences caused by blowing air, in turn we can now litterally see wind, check it outvoted was on discovery channel a while back
Finshaggy
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Air and wind are not the same. you are mistaken. You can see the wind happen. Look up "Dirt Devil". Like that's probably where the guy got the idea for the vacuum brand "Dirt Devil" or "Dust Devil" or whatever. "Watching the wind" in the Dirt Devils.
Finshaggy
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You would "see the 80mph wind" blowing the snow. Yes.
SoCaldrums
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LOL. Ok...laying on top of a boat at sea. There's no clouds. All you can see is the blue sky above you. There's a 20mph wond. You can NOT see it. You know what...nevermind. I knew it was stupid coming in here.
Heisenberg
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The "wind" can be measured, predicted, influenced and replicated. There's three distinctions the wind enjoys and God lacks. I agree these discussions are filled with strawmen and bad logic, and your comparison to the wind is a prime example.
#217 ARGUMENT FROM WIND
(1) You believe in wind.
(2) But you can't see it.
(3) God's the same way.
(4) It IS TOO analogous!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
Finshaggy
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It is analogous. My point was just that there is MUCH MORE evidence of the wind, than there is of a creator god, with consciousness.
SoCaldrums
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Holy crap! Is there *anyone* here who understands a simple concept? And you created another strawman, as I never said that "proves God exists".
SoCaldrums
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Well no. See, we never *got* to "you point" because you were too fixated on proving you can see the wind. Ok...my bad for dropping by. Cyas.
Heisenberg
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Yes, we agree.
We understand your point, and reject it. You can see wind, for all intents and purposes, unless you want to argue semantics. You simply stated "I've never seen the wind. I believe it's there though", so yes we made an assumption that you were comparing the wind to god. This assumption was backed up with the statement "You can't see the wind either. You can see the effects of both though." in which you specifically connected your statement to God.
So then, what was your point? You were simply pointed out things that are invisible? We believe and lots of things we can not 'see' yet can still prove quite conclusively, like gravity. The idea of God has many more problems than his invisibility.
olylifter420
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he always does that and i have pointed it out as well. he normally ignores these rules of debate he has broken...
+ rep for pointing it out also