Can i 12/12?

I have 25 single cola plants done under 12/12 from sprouting. They are only 46 days old and most are around 2 ft. in their 1-3 week of flower. So flowering early doesn't mean small. My space is limited so I'm trying this single cola thing this grow. Got awesome results so far. I'm documenting the whole experiment with lots of photos if you care to look. Here's a link:

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/19368-single-cola-plants-5.html#post1426054

But yeah, your light should be 21-27 inches from plant tops depending on heat issues. At a month old, I've never had a plant be less than a foot. Even from seed. So, if your plants are 4-8 inches at 4-6 weeks, even under cfl's, you have a problem somewhere. Check your temp, to high or low and plants stop vertical growth. Also check your soil and water Ph, for optimal conditions. Good luck man!

-The Dude

I run an air-cooled 600 for flower and theres absolutely no need for it to be any closer than 12", 14-18" is the average distance i keep mine at, any closer than 10" and it'l start light bleaching the tops!!

Just 4wks of 12/12 with the 600 14" above the tops. The less budded plants are long flowering haze crosses and have only just started to get into full bloom.

B-E-A-Utiful! I keep my 1000w hps about 24 inches usually. I just tied a string with a weight on the end to the reflector and when the plans grow higher than the weight you raise the lights. Chains help, or rope even depending on weight. What's light bleaching though? Never heard of it. Is it like heat stress or something?

I understand the desire to put the light as close as possible, but with HID lights the heat can get tremendous. You have to employ good ventilation based on your cubic ft. in your grow room. You want something that will change all the air in the room at least 3 times per minute. You can put the light extremely close with the proper equipment. If you really want to risk putting your light that close, you might want to look at a, "Cool tube". Or, keep the light at a proper distanse and pick up some cheap high wattage CFLs, and position them around your plants.

Cfls can actually be within an inch of your plants because of low heat. Just stuff to consider. Hope I've been some help.

-The Dude

theratfords said:

B-E-A-Utiful! I keep my 1000w hps about 24 inches usually. I just tied a string with a weight on the end to the reflector and when the plans grow higher than the weight you raise the lights. Chains help, or rope even depending on weight. What's light bleaching though? Never heard of it. Is it like heat stress or something?

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Now thats a good idea! you can maintain the exact same distance throughout the whole grow that way!

Im not 100% sure what light bleaching is, but ive had it, and read up on it somewhere in the past, its when the light is too close and the plant tissue recieves too much light/lumens and the tissue fades to a white/yellow colour, raise the light and the green comes back after a few days, i know its not heat stress or light burning because my air-cooled light puts out hardly any heat below the glass, and the pistils dont brown or burn niether do the leaves, they just loose their colour. I think too many lumens bleaches the chlorophyll out of the plant tissue??

plants stretch if the lamp is too close or to far away???
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Yea if its too far away and the plant isnt getting enough, the plants natural response is to stretch up more to find more light, but if its too close the heat causes the plant to stretch too (not sure why?)

But sometimes the genetics will determine the amount of stretch(internodal length) and its unavoidable, and theres nothing you can do about it, like my hazes.

I wouldnt worry about what that link says, it says marijuanna needs just 30-50w p/m2! I have 37.5w p/ft2, if you had just 30w p/m2 you really will see some stretching lmao! You may aswell hang an incandescant bulb in your growroom for that kinda wattage per square meter!

Quote: "Marijuana requires high light levels (At least 30w/m2, preferably 50 w/m2) to thrive and produce high yields.

Exactly, I have a 1000w in 8 sg, ft. LOTS OF WATTS BABY!

Interesting, it must be something with the cloropyl. Does the bleaching actually "hurt" the plant? Or just lose color? It would be interesting to know if it is the clorophyl draining from the leaves. It would be really interesting to find a way to provoke such a response in the whole plant at harvest time. I would imagine if you can somehow drain the clorophyl you could reduce the curing time. But, probably not possible without even worse effects on yeilds.

It is genetics. Through this grow I've noticed all the strains have different internodal spaces as well as being different heights. I normally grow just one strain so I'm not used to seeing so many different shaped plants. But bagseed is truelly a toss-up. I didn't want to, "Waste" good Widow seeds on my experiment. I had most start showing sex at between 10-15 inches tall; But one showed it's sex at only 4 1/2 inches. So it does depend on strain. You should always consider how you want your plants to look at cutting time and choose a strain best suited to your desired type of growth.

I used to have a tape measure stapled to the wall to show height but that proved hard to see through 20-something plants. I got the weight idea off a growing video I saw a while back. Thanks for the compliment, but the credit is someone elses.

Anyone heard any yeild amounts for plants flowered as young as his? I am expecting about an Oz. of each single cola but mine are MUCH bigger and I treat each of my plants like their my only one. Like my wife:https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/19368-single-cola-plants-5.html#post1426054

-The dude

i aint worried.i will keep the lamp 20-24" tommorow and keep them on suicide watch 18/6.
THANKS VERY MUCH.(put in a good rep for me i need to be gaining a higher level).please.
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Oh, are thoughs Widows in your pics London? It seems you kinda let them do their thing. Got anymore pics that can better show size. I normally do a 24 plant SOG hydro setup with my Widows. I was considering letting them grow without the screen and just stake them. I'm used to the strain just not the height. How tall do yours get at harvest? I start my flower once all have reached about a ft and a half. Care to give me a guess as to height?

Thanks,
-Dude

Marijuana Plant Abuse
just a thought for you guys.

Abuse? Who's talking abuse? If your plants are 6-8 weeks old and only 4-7 inches, your abusing them. That's the reality, unless your doing a lot of topping or you have some really stunted skunk stain maybe. My girls are doing fine. Here's a couple younger than yours and already flowering. About 20 inches.

good for you.
stop stealing other peoples pics and talking bullshit any one knows it takes 4-6 weeks vegg.
and my plants are only 4 weeks old with the first 2 weeks spent under cfls.
theres no fucking way those plants are at that stage in that time.

What? Are you serious? You sound retarded right now. I've been doing a whole thread on this grow dumbass! How can I steal my own photos? Here's proof for you stupid. You should seriously review the terms of service at Rollitup.com before you start calling bullshit. Not only are my pics dated but I have like 200 of them. If I stole them then call me out and show the thread I got em' from.

You can flower a plant from seed idiot! Please someone tell this bitch how it is so he'll shut up. 4-6weeks for Veg? Who told you that? That's how long you "SHOULD" veg, now how long you "HAVE TO". Yes, at 4-6 weeks of vegging your plants should be well over a foot with the only exception being if you stunted their growth on purpose! Which you clearly didn't. Under cfl's your plant your plants should be over a foot too. Not to mention they should stretch even taller under cfl's searching for light. Just admit you don't know what your doing or talking about so we all can help you.

Maybe you shouldn't ask for help if you don't like the advice you get. We're all trying to help out at Rollitup. Maybe you should work on your attitude before you grow anything. You treat strangers trying to help you like their liars! No wonder your plants wont grow, you probably treat them bad too.

Here's your proof: Call bullshit now bitch! Also check the dates. My oldest plants are 2 foot at 47 days old and 2 weeks into flower. That's no bullshit. That's you, looking stupid now!

Shame, shame, no your name.
-Dude'r

Now here's the same plants on day one in the flower room, again check the dates. I'll put them side by side for ya.

hey therat...So you can 12/12 from seed?? Do you get buds quicker? Does it affect your yield? That seems pretty interesting..I might wanna try that out.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I couldn't find much info on it so I'm guessing on the yeild. So I figured since my hydro had finished and I wanna get some better equip, might as well do the experiment so if people like me want to try it there's a good resourse on a thread. It wasn't a thread I started, just found the discussion and joined in. Feel free to have a look and see if I'm bullshit like Luda says. I just wanna help, some people just want to be disrespectful ya know.
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/19368-single-cola-plants-9.html
Thanks for the interest and keeping this thread positive.

-The Dude

Oh, and yes it will affect yeild but it seems a great way to go if you have limited space or time. That's what I was trying to tell Luda. You can cram a lot of plants into a small area rather than a couple big ones. Probably about the same yeild if you cram em' in there. But it will all be main cola buds. So they should all be potent fat buds father than a lot of "popcorn" buds ya know. They are looking really good. Please, check out the thread and drop a line or two. I probably wont monitor this thread anymore. I don't help people that are rude so..

Sorry I wrote so much all,
-Dude

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/108456-what-bagseed.html
Here's a Gem. One of Luda's own Threads titled," What is bagseed, how does it occur?" Come on. Are you really trying to call me a liar? You come on this guys thread and disrespect, but you don't know what bagseed is. ILMAO! What an ass!

Here's another one wonering why his weed had seed in it: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/108265-good-buds-some-seeds.html

And yet another clueless question about nutes of his: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/99626-what-nutes-flowering.html

Nice, I'm the liar nub right? Ass!

theratfords said:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/108456-what-bagseed.html
Here's a Gem. One of Luda's own Threads titled," What is bagseed, how does it occur?" Come on. Are you really trying to call me a liar? You come on this guys thread and disrespect, but you don't know what bagseed is. ILMAO! What an ass!

Here's another one wonering why his weed had seed in it: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/108265-good-buds-some-seeds.html

And yet another clueless question about nutes of his: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/99626-what-nutes-flowering.html

Nice, I'm the liar nub right? Ass!

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chill down you hyped up fool.