Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 27.5%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 42 26.3%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%

  • Total voters
    160

CatHedral

Well-Known Member
You mean they built them too low in the first place. Happens around here too in the flood plains. The river has been flooding for centuries but now we finally figured out it's not a good place to build a house. Nobody cared until they came out with insurance.
That has nothing to do with the basic problem of fixed streets vs rising sea levels.
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nuskool89

Well-Known Member
Well how much have they risen?

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According to NOAA they raise about 1/8 inch a year. From 1993 to 2014 it was “2.6 inches above average”

although they say the satellite record started in 1993

also a lot of “it’s thought” or “estimates say” mixed in to that report too

 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
Does it even matter? People could show you anything and you'd just do white trash stuff like the above.
Well when you want to change the world it might be a good idea to have some actual evidence. Same thing with CO2. What's the right amount, what's the goal?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
According to NOAA they raise about 1/8 inch a year. From 1993 to 2014 it was “2.6 inches above average”

although they say the satellite record started in 1993

also a lot of “it’s thought” or “estimates say” mixed in to that report too

wait

Are you saying the earth's climate is not warming due to industrial burning of fossil fuels?
 

Three Berries

Well-Known Member
According to NOAA they raise about 1/8 inch a year. From 1993 to 2014 it was “2.6 inches above average”

although they say the satellite record started in 1993

also a lot of “it’s thought” or “estimates say” mixed in to that report too

And the average is how long? I've kept weather records here at my house for almost 40 years. Sometimes there is drought, sometimes floods, sometimes cold winters, sometimes warm. All I can say is weather varies. So will the ocean levels. Smart people will move now or take preparations.
 

nuskool89

Well-Known Member
Then you are wrong. You may thank me now.
Actually you’re leaving off several other contributing factors to any climate warming effect the earth is currently experiencing. I’ll thank you when you come back with the correct answer
 

mooray

Well-Known Member
Well when you want to change the world it might be a good idea to have some actual evidence. Same thing with CO2. What's the right amount, what's the goal?
That's a good point, maybe the right amount of ocean rise is with florida 6ft underwater.

Sarcasm, obviously. All of these left/right issues usually come down to how much you care about yourself vs everyone else. Even though I think your views absolutely suck, I genuinely want good things for you and your family. I've seen your take a thousand times, which is that if the oceans have naturally ever been twenty feet higher than they are now, then it's perfectly fine if they're twenty feet higher tomorrow. And in a vacuum, I'd agree. However, when changes happen faster than we're prepared for, bad things happen, which is why I'm for taking whatever steps we can to try to slow the progress of some changes so that we have enough time to adapt to what's coming. That's the goal.

Off-topic: Anyone know what a good word is to describe a person that wants to slow the rate of change..?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Actually you’re leaving off several other contributing factors to any climate warming effect the earth is currently experiencing. I’ll thank you when you come back with the correct answer
Only one factor is contributing to the rapid change in global climate. It's a rise in human release of greenhouse gasses, aka burning fossil fuels.

There is no other.
 
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