Coco Growers Unite!

bender420

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What the fuckin fuck. That is the thickest cola I have ever seen, got dang man. Amazing!!

Yeah JB, I tried sending you PM and answering you PM as well.
 

jberry

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I was actually bummed with the way the pics came out cuz they dont do it justice... everything was much bigger lookin in person... that trimmed nug was rock hard... that plant was linked from the soil line right up to the tip top... it was a sea of green grow in 1.75 gal. pots, with 20-24 plants per 4X4 tray, using a 1000 W. of super HPS supplemented with a 100 watts of T5 floros
 

jberry

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holy mother of jesus...... what did that thing weigh?
That nug weighed a unbelievable 20 grams dried!! :) -its hard to tell in the pic but the thing was much bigger around then it looked... it was around 4 inches across at its wider points and was 5-6 inches long...
I'm not sure what the plants weighed individually but I usually shoot for around 500 grms for each square meter.
 

WeSmkDro

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im curious does anyone have any advice on how i should water my newly transplanted plants? should i use just plain phed water or use a weaker nute formula? thank you anyone who helps! i need this!

Wesmkdro
 

jberry

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use a weak pH'd nutrient solution... like quarter strength but if you are going into bloom then make sure to up the dose pretty quickly after that until you are at or near full strength.
 

WeSmkDro

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use a weak pH'd nutrient solution... like quarter strength but if you are going into bloom then make sure to up the dose pretty quickly after that until you are at or near full strength.
wow thank you for the quick response. How high would you recommend i be for bloom? for canna nutes?
 

jberry

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No Co2... I stopped using it about a year ago due to the major security risk of dragging the 50 pound, 4 ft tall tanks in and out of the house every week.

It all about getting everything right during the first 3 weeks of flower.... By week three I can tell how big my colas will be and what type of yield im going to get. These first few weeks can be tricky to dial in. If you underfeed or use the wrong nutrient ratios during this stage then you will miss the boat, but if you overfeed then it will also effect the yield quite a bit. I have noticed that after the first 3 weeks you can kinda just go by a preset feeding schedule/chart but the first few weeks seem to have their own special feeding needs each cycle that vary from crop to crop even when you are using the same stock plant for cuttings.
 

statik

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No Co2... I stopped using it about a year ago due to the major security risk of dragging the 50 pound, 4 ft tall tanks in and out of the house every week.

It all about getting everything right during the first 3 weeks of flower.... By week three I can tell how big my colas will be and what type of yield im going to get. These first few weeks can be tricky to dial in. If you underfeed or use the wrong nutrient ratios during this stage then you will miss the boat, but if you overfeed then it will also effect the yield quite a bit. I have noticed that after the first 3 weeks you can kinda just go by a preset feeding schedule/chart but the first few weeks seem to have their own special feeding needs each cycle that vary from crop to crop even when you are using the same stock plant for cuttings.
I'm starting to notice what you said here exactly. I threw an extra Phos/Potash boost (Mad Farmers MOAB) in at around week 3 in flower (not exactly by their book, but sometimes its good to deviate). The girls were being pretty slow to flower because they were having some phos defs. I bumped up the P & K and they with that MOAB (was just using Cutting Edge before) and the flowers have just swelled big time. Not going to get anything like that monster pictured above, but it's enough to show me when certain nutes (in certain ratios) are pretty damn crucial to a heavier harvest than the next guy.
 

WeSmkDro

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okay , if you want i can post pictures but they arent necessary. could anyone help me with a ph problem? i have been putting water in at ph 6 and its been coming out a little above 5. im still using the drops. it seems like even though i flushed a few days ago , and ive been watering with good ph water the ph just WONT GO DOWN? has anyone had this problem and does anyone know how i can fix it? + rep for help , im just speechless on this one. musta flushed each 3 gallon pot with 8-9 gallons and still PROBLEMS! one weird thing is when i leave the phed runoff in the tube , 5 hours later itll be yellow instead of orange. hmmm . help!

dro
 

ZEN MASTER

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okay , if you want i can post pictures but they arent necessary. could anyone help me with a ph problem? i have been putting water in at ph 6 and its been coming out a little above 5. im still using the drops. it seems like even though i flushed a few days ago , and ive been watering with good ph water the ph just WONT GO DOWN? has anyone had this problem and does anyone know how i can fix it? + rep for help , im just speechless on this one. musta flushed each 3 gallon pot with 8-9 gallons and still PROBLEMS! one weird thing is when i leave the phed runoff in the tube , 5 hours later itll be yellow instead of orange. hmmm . help!

dro

hey what up man. i dont know if this will help, but first off are you using straight coco? and are you flushing those itty bitty 1gal pots with 9 gallons of straight water. if so that may be your problem. coco is funny in the sense that the npk bonds to it. and if you are flushing with straight water then you are stripping the NPK off of the coco, leaving your roots in a virtual nutrient-free, zone creating all kinds of deficiencies and lockouts. also, and this may or may not include you, but i dont know what nutes you are using, but i recommend(although some dont agree)that "ONLY" coco specific nutes be used. that way you cut out all of the extra tweeking , and getting this right , and this horribly wrong. it just starts you out with a better foundation. but if i were going to flush, i'd start with a weak concentration of nutes. maybe like 10%, that way whlie you doing the flushing you'll still be leaving behind some NPK. hope that helps man.


P.S. thats why i use Canna Coco because i can use tap water, and i never Ph my water, because i know that at its highest its 6.0, and 5.4 at its lowest. and they say 5.2-6.2 is ideal.

PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

WeSmkDro

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wow that was actually a very helpful post. i have 3 plants in 3 gallon pots. if you were so inclined , my journal is in my sig. im already using canna line nutes and additives with canna coco even. Its just ridiculous , i cant figure out why the runoff wont go UP. someone told me it might have smoething to do with the plant eating more than its drinking or vice versa. its really driving me nuts ... it shouldnt be so hard to regulate the ph of this frickin medium. do you suggest trying to bring it up with multiple small watering with adjusted ph? my tap water ph is above 8 lol , i have to ph : x .

Dro thank you!!! + rep!
 

jberry

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wow that was actually a very helpful post. i have 3 plants in 3 gallon pots. if you were so inclined , my journal is in my sig. im already using canna line nutes and additives with canna coco even. Its just ridiculous , i cant figure out why the runoff wont go UP. someone told me it might have smoething to do with the plant eating more than its drinking or vice versa. its really driving me nuts ... it shouldnt be so hard to regulate the ph of this frickin medium. do you suggest trying to bring it up with multiple small watering with adjusted ph? my tap water ph is above 8 lol , i have to ph : x .

Dro thank you!!! + rep!
You aren't supposed to monitor the pH of the run off, or adjust the pH, based on the run-off when growing in coco... That is your problem... Just worry about what the pH is going in and forget about what it is coming out.
 

ZEN MASTER

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wow that was actually a very helpful post. i have 3 plants in 3 gallon pots. if you were so inclined , my journal is in my sig. im already using canna line nutes and additives with canna coco even. Its just ridiculous , i cant figure out why the runoff wont go UP. someone told me it might have smoething to do with the plant eating more than its drinking or vice versa. its really driving me nuts ... it shouldnt be so hard to regulate the ph of this frickin medium. do you suggest trying to bring it up with multiple small watering with adjusted ph? my tap water ph is above 8 lol , i have to ph : x .

Dro thank you!!! + rep!
wow yea you do have to Ph it. like jberry said i wouldnt worry about the runoff Ph. just the Ph of what youre putting in. also i dont know if you do this or not but since the level is so high in your water, when you bring it down let it set for an hour or so then check it again, then mix your nutes and let them sit for at least an hour(more if possible) and then feed. hopes that helps, and i will check out your thread A.S.A.P.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 
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