Cop murderer believes in gun control

We're all either utopians or dystopians.

I don't have "libertarian leanings" as you see them. You are using the word libertarian incorrectly. It isn't your fault though, Amerika has been bamboozled, it's vernacular perverted.

"One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, 'our side' had captured a crucial word from the enemy. 'Libertarians' had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over."

~Murray Rothbard, founder of "American Libertarianism"

I do not lean anywhere near the oxymoron anarchocapitalism.

Interesting. I mis-read that, 'm serious. I thought it was Aracno- spider like. Oh well. Dystopian. Great word. What does it mean? Against Utpoia, would not be good?

Or does it mean a view that rejects Utopia, would not be possible?
 
That is what he is saying. It's in there. Now he will show us.

But, he won't canvasing for legislation. He may want to be poster child.
 
So, anyone think he might be using his rampage to spur more legislation? You know, "I'll SHOW them why we need gun control!"?

Well since he is C.L.E.E.T certified he could have bought about anything he needed so gun control wouldn't have worked. Kind of shines a new light on allowing leo's to be exempt from policy.
 
Well since he is C.L.E.E.T certified he could have bought about anything he needed so gun control wouldn't have worked. Kind of shines a new light on allowing leo's to be exempt from policy.
There's no way he could have genuinely gotten his hands on the Sa-7's he mentioned, could he?
 
Interesting. I mis-read that, 'm serious. I thought it was Aracno- spider like. Oh well. Dystopian. Great word. What does it mean? Against Utpoia, would not be good?

Or does it mean a view that rejects Utopia, would not be possible?
I thought "arachnocapitalism" would die a death of neglect, but the term appears to have a lot of legs. cn
 
Doubtful but being an leo he could have gotten his hands on many explosives, flash bangs, teargas and fully automatic weapons.

Which is why I think there should be law at the amendment level barring law enforcement from weapons that (the other) civilians in their jurisdictions cannot carry. Thus the FBI should be limited to the gun laws of the most restrictive state, or community within that state. cn
 
I agree to an extent.. But in some cities you've got people running around with full auto AK's, uzis etc..
Unless you mean for personal ownership and not duty related.
 
I agree to an extent.. But in some cities you've got people running around with full auto AK's, uzis etc..
Unless you mean for personal ownership and not duty related.
Why do you automatically assume full auto is more dangerous than semi?

Most shooters would do "better" with semi than full auto...full auto is for fighting aliens, not for the real world.
 
Really, a person can do way more damage simply by the rate of fire, thats why its used in various different tactics,Cover fire, suppression fire, etc. or to just flat out light someones ass up.
Was just saying that if your going up against aks, ar's etc that have been converted to full auto. You dont wanna be stuck with a 9mm or 40cal, etc as your only option.
 
I agree to an extent.. But in some cities you've got people running around with full auto AK's, uzis etc..
Unless you mean for personal ownership and not duty related.

There are very very few licensed full auto anythings.
I am specifically referring to "duty-related". It is my considered opinion that giving cops special weapons privileges goes dead against the intent of the second amendment. The only defense I see against getting our gun rights gnawed into uselessness by the elitists is to require that police only carry the level of arms allowed their jurisdiction. That's why i respect the British system ... their money is where their mouths are, and the street cop goes unarmed.

Conversely i despise the Japanese system. Almost no civilian gun privileges at all, and yet Japanese duty cops carry pistols. Imo hat is just plain corrupt.

I would be fascinated to see what would happen to local crime rates if such an ordinance were applied to Boston, NYC andor Chicago. cn
 
it's not the people with the fed permits for autos that i'm talking about.. It's the ones that people have that have been illegally converted that the problem comes in.
 
it's not the people with the fed permits for autos that i'm talking about.. It's the ones that people have that have been illegally converted that the problem comes in.

Which is already illegal how would making more laws for this help? Just sayin
 
Didn't say they needed more laws. They have too many as it is.. I'm saying that as long as those types of illegal guns are on the streets that the authorities should have access to the same types of weapons that they have to face.
Don't get me wrong, i think the law has way too much authority and jurisdiction as it is. But there are some aspects of there job that put them into conflict against people with those types of weapons.
 
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