could a plant turn hermie if...
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doc111
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Some frogs get you high....that's 2 things.cannabis and frogs have only 1 thing in common.
thier colour.
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LUDACRIS
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doc111
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I'll toke to that.this one is as high as a motherfucker it just wont stop.
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LUDACRIS
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I'll give my input here. I have been growing a strain that was gifted to me, for the last couple of grows. My friend has also been growing the same strain, cloned from the same mother.
I treat my plants well, my environment is good, and I follow a decent feeding schedule. My friend has a habit of burning colas, overnuting, generally treating the plants like shit, and his temps and humidity are usually too high.
His last two harvests have been seeded badly. My last two harvests have been 100% seed free. The plant genetics are the same, and the only difference is how they have been treated.
I have had true hermies in the past when growing from bagseed, and they are pretty obvious. They will show whether there is stress or not. What I am describing here is more like an intersex response to stress, and in my mind is a completely seperate thing. Not all plants will ellicit this response, but many will.
Does this mean that the plant was a hermie anyway? It's very possible that it has a dormant hermie gene or something that is activated by stress. I just know that under the right conditions, it was quite happy to be a pure female, but when tortured, it threw out balls.
Not trying to pick sides in an argument here, just giving a bit of first-hand experience.
I treat my plants well, my environment is good, and I follow a decent feeding schedule. My friend has a habit of burning colas, overnuting, generally treating the plants like shit, and his temps and humidity are usually too high.
His last two harvests have been seeded badly. My last two harvests have been 100% seed free. The plant genetics are the same, and the only difference is how they have been treated.
I have had true hermies in the past when growing from bagseed, and they are pretty obvious. They will show whether there is stress or not. What I am describing here is more like an intersex response to stress, and in my mind is a completely seperate thing. Not all plants will ellicit this response, but many will.
Does this mean that the plant was a hermie anyway? It's very possible that it has a dormant hermie gene or something that is activated by stress. I just know that under the right conditions, it was quite happy to be a pure female, but when tortured, it threw out balls.
Not trying to pick sides in an argument here, just giving a bit of first-hand experience.
LUDACRIS
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have another read!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/238715-does-pollenated-female-become-hermaphrodite.html
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Phenom420
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Always great to give more input, thanks, that's what RIU is all about.
i dont think you should be taking clone cuttings 10 generations back.The only point I wanted to make is that we really don't know with 100% certainty what causes hermies. I recently had a confirmed female clone, that was at least 10 generations old go hermie on me. What caused it? I don't know because it didn't get any stress that I was aware of. Was it buried deep in the genetics of the plant? I can't say with certainty. Why is it that I have stressed the shit out of plants in the past and they didn't hermie? I don't know enough about the genetics of cannabis to say for 100% that hermies are only caused by this or that and not caused by this or that. I don't have a laboratory or the equipment to extract the DNA necessary to test the genetics of a plant. So all I can do is make a guess based on my own observations and that is that I think it is both genetic and environmental. I think the degree of influence depends on the inherited genetics of a given plant. We know that hermies can be created by chemical induction which in my understanding was a form of stress on the plant. Maybe I'm wrong about that and if so I will glady concede that I am wrong. But you've gotta show me hard evidence.
doc111
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Why not. This is how I've always done things. I take cuttings off of vegging plants, put the vegging plants into flowering. In the meantime my cuttings take root and go into veg. When the plants in flowering are almost done I take more cuttings. I do this so I don't have to have mothers. I simply don't have the room and don't want to waste energy on lights for mothers. There is no evidence that taking cuttings of cuttings for generations causes problems. I think it was a fluke and perhaps the plant had the hermie gene deeply buried or there was some sort of mutation. I don't know but my other plants were fine.
just watch your vent flaps on your grow tent are not allowing light in before your lights are due to come on. After days of doing my nut in as to why my well forming buds suddenly turned hermie . staying up a couple of nights to check the timers were not faulty and kicking the lights in. I realised that my 8pm -8am dark cycle was being compromised by the fact that the room I am using gets the morning sun at 5am . my air vents on my grow tents didn't completely restrict the day light from getting into the tents....... The sun has got his hat on ! aye well get to fuck ya prick !!!!
Trousers
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A female plant from a feminized seed is basically the same as a female plant from a regular seed.NO it wont go hermie if the fem has stable genetics.
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(a female plant with stable fem genetics wont turn hermie under any circumstances).
Every female cannabis plant has the ability to produce male flowers. It is a normal and natural survival phenomenon.
Every female plant from a feminized seeds has the ability to produce male flowers. With stable varieties, it is usually some sort of stress that causes the female plant to produce male flowers.
Technically that is not a hermaphrodite. It is a monoecious hermaphrodite as it only has X chromosomes (XX) like a femal.
A real hermaphrodite will have both an X and a Y chromosome (XY).
From reading teh interwebs, it seems to me the most common form of stress that causes a female plant to produce male flowers is over feeding/watering, then heat problems. Light leaks are probably not as harmful as most people think.
On a side note, there is nothing I can find to back up the idea that a cannabis seed can produce either a male or a female plant. The fact that feminized seeds exist leads me to believe that trying to grow a certain way to improve male/female ratios is a waste of time. Sex is predetermined in cannabis seeds.
http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-growing/133478-almost-final-answer-what-determines-sex.html