DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

theloadeddragon

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I don't entirely agree with all of it..... but I will keep my mouth closed too the end cuz I may be wrong...... but lots of plants= big smile on my face :D
 

DaGambler

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Looks good man, should be an interesting experiance. I can't wait to see how it works out for ya. Did you cut holes in the bottom of the buckets or are you just using the holes on the sides?
ya, i've got around 6 1/4" holes at the bottom of each bucket.

so far i'm not real happy with the tri-meter as it fluctuates a lot and am always having to recalibrate from the small hand models. so i'm looking to double up on the tri-meter with a different brand shortly.
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DaGambler

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I don't entirely agree with all of it..... but I will keep my mouth closed too the end cuz I may be wrong...... but lots of plants= big smile on my face :D
by all means, brotha, any theoretical speculations would be appreciated. I certainly still have some things to learn ... and would just as soon learn from someone else's mistakes as my own.
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theloadeddragon

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well..... how long do you flood for? do you let ALL the water drain out, or do you leave some in, how far down does it drain to (I recommend leaving some in)? two or three plants per pot right (that may or may not present a problem)... your medium is pure perlite? does that retain enough moisture for you? I would have recommended a perlite mix to prevent a few issues you could have.... like how your roots grow..... I would have recommended holes in the sides of the pots as well (but only with a perlite mix)....

There are parts of your set up that remind me of my last SOG that I really like...... and equally parts that I remember having issues with.... some flags did pop up.....
you only have 1 tri meter?
I recommend 3 tri meters
in certain spots of course (Res, in flow, and ebb&flow/plant basin)
and airstones IN your ebb&flow area (with 2 inches of water solution remaining after draining)
With ebb and flow I have found that top feeding works better (having two res's, one for nute solution and one for strait RO water)

Of all the people on RIU...... you would probably be the only person I would be interested in doing a joint grow ;)
 

theloadeddragon

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what takes 30 seconds to say verbally just took me 20 minutes to write....... but I couldn't post because I was auto logged out! Frustrated......
 

DaGambler

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well..... how long do you flood for? do you let ALL the water drain out, or do you leave some in, how far down does it drain to (I recommend leaving some in)? two or three plants per pot right (that may or may not present a problem)... your medium is pure perlite? does that retain enough moisture for you? I would have recommended a perlite mix to prevent a few issues you could have.... like how your roots grow..... I would have recommended holes in the sides of the pots as well (but only with a perlite mix)....

There are parts of your set up that remind me of my last SOG that I really like...... and equally parts that I remember having issues with.... some flags did pop up.....
you only have 1 tri meter?
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i flood for approx. 15 mintues... just long enough to reach the overflow height of 4.5" inches. Then the water slowly drains back out over the next 1/2 hour or so completely -- the holes are at the very bottom edge of the containers. the 1" hole in the side of the pots is just a left-over from when i was using hempy style rez's in each container.

i do have lots of bubbles going constantly in the rez... as well as a 330 gph pump constantly circulating things. just ordered another tri-meter (pH/ppm/temp) but it'll also being going into the rez. so that i can hopefully not be crawling beneath the house as much.

the perlite actually seems to be holding a bit more water than i would like. i watered once and could have waited 3 days to water again. one reason why i will use at least 1/2 perlite in the clone cups from now on is that i actually lost 2 plants to 'over-watering' as the sphagnum stayed too moist (M.G. seed starting mix) and there wasn't enough air to the roots after the initial flooding. (16 oz. sphagnum 'plugs' are buried right into the perlite after the clones go into the flower room.) But i'm sure that won't be a problem as long as i substitute some perlite in the clone cups next time around. the two that were over-watered have been replaced.

Just waiting for some monster girls this time around... not quite like the trees GypsyBush is getting going... but deffinitely going to veg. a while this time beyond just making sure that they are actively growing vegetatively.
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theloadeddragon

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i flood for approx. 15 mintues... just long enough to reach the overflow height of 4.5" inches. Then the water slowly drains back out over the next 1/2 hour or so completely -- the holes are at the very bottom edge of the containers. the 1" hole in the side of the pots is just a left-over from when i was using hempy style rez's in each container.

i do have lots of bubbles going constantly in the rez... as well as a 330 gph pump constantly circulating things. just ordered another tri-meter (pH/ppm/temp) but it'll also being going into the rez. so that i can hopefully not be crawling beneath the house as much.

the perlite actually seems to be holding a bit more water than i would like. i watered once and could have waited 3 days to water again. one reason why i will use at least 1/2 perlite in the clone cups from now on is that i actually lost 2 plants to 'over-watering' as the sphagnum stayed too moist (M.G. seed starting mix) and there wasn't enough air to the roots after the initial flooding. (16 oz. sphagnum 'plugs' are buried right into the perlite after the clones go into the flower room.) But i'm sure that won't be a problem as long as i substitute some perlite in the clone cups next time around. the two that were over-watered have been replaced.

Just waiting for some monster girls this time around... not quite like the trees GypsyBush is getting going... but deffinitely going to veg. a while this time beyond just making sure that they are actively growing vegetatively.
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having an airstone in the ebb&flow area with the plants will ensure propper airflow to the root systems...... I thought the perlite might hold a little too much...... I use rockwool (less of a mess too ;).......

Im looking at setting up a decent sized where house grow sometime soon (100 sq ft, 70 sq ft of growing space ;) )........ not 100% on the system im gunna use yet..... still figuring out the initial investment.... but I will key you in when I get it going....... :D
 

DaGambler

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the next project will be making the clone tables into ebb 'n flow tables. i'll just be adding higher sides, re-lining with plastic and dropping in a couple of drain/fill and overflow fittings. Will need an additional 375 gph pump (i have one free a.t.m.) and will be using the two rubbermaid trash cans - 35 gal. and 44 gal. as reservoirs. looking at picking up another RO unit as the one i had is now under the house and on a float valve to keep the 300 gal. rez. topped off.

i'll try to throw up some pictures of the clone hydro setup once i get it all thrown together. :oops:
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DaGambler

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thanks to - bigtomatofarmer - for posting this up elsewhere on RIU:

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man, this one hits close to home. everybody knows they tax the shite out of nicotine and alcohol, both of which are killing people ... swiftly. (Zero deaths - compared to how many hundreds of thousands?)

eh, butta, no doubt about it... mad props and rep to this guy for having the cahones to make this video in the real world. eventually, maybe some folks will start to get real.

but i do have to disagree with the presidnt of the united stats on his, "there's no difference between marijunana and morphine" remark. Morphine is a nasty-azz terribly addictive drug with horrid side effects. If someone can get the same relief by smoking marijunana then a Doctor would have to be a masochist to prescribe morphine over marijunana !
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theloadeddragon

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thanks to - bigtomatofarmer - for posting this up elsewhere on RIU:

[youtube]qFddamg-ez8[/youtube]

man, this one hits close to home. everybody knows they tax the shite out of nicotine and alcohol, both of which are killing people ... swiftly. (Zero deaths - compared to how many hundreds of thousands?)

eh, butta, no doubt about it... mad props and rep to this guy for having the cahones to make this video in the real world. eventually, maybe some folks will start to get real.

but i do have to disagree with the presidnt of the united stats on his, "there's no difference between marijunana and morphine" remark. Morphine is a nasty-azz terribly addictive drug with horrid side effects. If someone can get the same relief by smoking marijunana then a Doctor would have to be a masochist to prescribe morphine over marijunana !
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Maybe our president needs to be PUBLICALLY educated ;)
 

DaGambler

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wasn't doing Mother Nature (or myself) any favors while 'poking' 7 holes in the bottom of each 18 oz. cup with a soldering iron / wood burner. using plastic instead of styrofoam this time so that hopefully i won't get any floaters :D also going to put about 2/3 inch of river pebbles... and top off with 50/50 perlite and M.G. Seed Starting Mix.



the new 'Clone Gulleys'. 2' x 8' foot shelves on 55 gal. drums. 4" sides on top. will be drilling 2 holes in each table for the fill/drain and overflow fittings. Botanicare makes some nice sturdy fittings. will be lining the trays with 2 mil. plastic sheeting. a 330 gph pump will run to each tray from the same 35 or 45 gallon rubbermaid reservoir.



the 5' by 10' foot 'left gulley' a couple days ago. though since correcting a phosphorous & magnesium & sulphur defficiency... they've shot up a lot in the last couple days. ix-nay on the 1 part per 1 part formula i was trying with the G.H. Flora Micro and Flora Bloom. (2 parts to 3 parts would have been better.) I'll be switching to the Lucas formula now of 1 part Micro per 2 parts Bloom... and flipping the switch to Flower Mode this weekend, right after taking clones.



the 5' by 10 foot 'right gulley'. Not filled in as well. Principle culprits are the auto-flowering White Russians. they just don't want to stay in veg. under the flouro's ... so their growth just stalls. Going to clone, of these i will take few or none.



view over the 'left gulley'. nice even canopy. 3 gallon pots of perlite. a couple stragglers in the middle of the room; more ugly auto's that i'm watering by hand. so far i'm deffinitely seeing faster and more robust growth than any previous grow in soil or hempy. (This is Ebb 'n Flow with a 300 gal. rez. under the house.) still not quite dialed in on keeping the pH and ppm in focus. i'll try not to kill them. :-P
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bigjesse1922

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DG you have outdone yourself this time bro!

Great lookin stuff here! Tough luck with those WR stragglers...

Never can trust anything east of Munich, didn't you know? :lol::razz:

Well I am curious to see what happens once everything flips...

Are you going to prune any of them? That's quite the jungle you got there....not that I am one to talk...:lol:

Well check ya later man. Good stuff! :peace::weed:
 
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