Defoliation

Alexander Supertramp said:

Why? Roots do not absorb CO2.

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Like leaves, roots are a bad thing for bud production ya know.

Uncle Ben said:

I've used 1,000 watts, no C02 with good ventilation and always had high yields with excellent potency. I guess sealed is different. Only c02 I run is to pump the beer keg in my kegerator.

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as long as the air is kept moving and is cool and co2 rich there will be no problems , with hydro its easier as the plants just drink more to cool themselves down
and are automatically watered so i do not need to do anything extra when the temps rise other than add some more fans to keep the air moving
at the moment, the temps here are high with a mini heat wave lol

my room is hitting 90f every day now, the plants have started to drink more but are remaining healthy under 1600w
i am now using a total of 400 watts of fans to keep them cool this includes the extractor

most folk are using room thermometers to measure temperature anyway which doesn't give the full story
if they were to measure the temp of the leaves directly with a fancy Ir thermometer they would be able to more accurately measure what temps a plant can handle in its given environment

or just basically hold a leaf nearest to the light source, if the leaf is radiating cold, it should feel cold to the touch, then the plant is fine and can cool itself
if the leaves feel warm to the touch i would take action and reduce the temps

peace

You can also hang a thermometer in the canopy. If the temp comes up at least 10F cooler, you've got good transpiration going on which means good uptake of water. That's a trick commercial vineyard managers use.

UB

Uncle Ben said:

Like leaves, roots are a bad thing for bud production ya know.

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Its not the first time I have heard of someone using tonic water on their plants thinking it was a good thing.

Hey Kite, are you running bare bulbs or open hoods? I know that you achieve awesome co2 concentration duration as your room is mega sealed. I moved som stuff around and installed a 3.5 ton mini split in my flower room. Somewhere I am getting negative pressure. The panda film is getting sucked off the walls! All the ducting is taped sealed, expanding foam on manifolds, and soft rubber sealing where the light cords pass trough the wall.

It HAS to be the lights. I'm running 14 block busters cooled by two 8" inlines (7 hoods for each fan, two rows). Thinking about putting some painters tape around the glass and bottom of the hoods but will wait till I switch to HPS in a week (I just flipped). My co2 generator is almost constanty running.

Any hood sealing tricks that anyone has?

Defoliating during veg is perfect to shape your plants into however you want them and slow some branches to even them out before out put them in flowering. They grow more than twice their size in the first 3 weeks of flowering anyway. I grow em to have about 8 nice colas per plant all at the same height and they get huge. I just don't clip anything off the plant after week 2 of flowering, and never fan leaves on branches im keeping once flowering starts. The key is to know what to cut of ahead of time so it does not over grow later, keeping an eye on that is the best. I get my lolipopping and training, and defoliating and pruning all done at the same time when the plants are small. Then I don' t have to do anything later. Haha here look at this:

Day 2 of Flowering:



6 weeks later:

Alexander Supertramp said:

Its not the first time I have heard of someone using tonic water on their plants thinking it was a good thing.

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Does that surprise you? Hell, those Canna shysters sell CO2 tabs for soil. Fools who do not know or care to know will buy into anything if the claims are well scripted.

Hose Water, MG, and potting soil. Harvest pics next week. But I promise you, you will not see dying leaves up inside the buds like the pics above. Those plants look like something out of a horror movie. Scary. You be the judge, which garden is happier?

Some N defiency ^^^ Easy fix for my next Cheap A+ garage grow. Keep it simple

Or look.... Some real Pr0n lol VVVVVVVV

Situation420 said:

Defoliating during veg is perfect to shape your plants into however you want them and slow some branches to even them out before out put them in flowering. They grow more than twice their size in the first 3 weeks of flowering anyway. I get my lolipopping and training, and defoliating and pruning all done at the same time when the plants are small. Then I don' t have to do anything later. Haha here look at this:

Day 2 of Flowering:

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If I didn't know you were serious, I would have thought this was some kind of a joke. Sadly, but it's not.

Yeah, "Haha here look at this". A couple of indoor mutt shots just for you.







Leave the leaves on!

UB

Dude i wasnt having a contest, i already told you how my power went out how my ac was off for a couple days and my leaves got toasted and some plants fell over. I was showing how to prune differently. Anyway yours look happier, mine look bigger.

Mine are the BIGGEREST!

You can buy a 45 day flower nutrient system from budtrader right now!!! Guaranteed to flower your plants in 45 days!!!!

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Call these dudes up I promise you they will tell you how to defoliate the best possible way. While your at it get a PH pen, a Co2 magic bag, and some liquid light. I bet they stalk their shelves with soda water to Co2 your root system too... only its not called soda water... its called Liquid Alien Root Blaster

These folk are onto something, making huge money out of wankers, good luck to them
this stuff has been sold for over 10 years who is buying it LOL
http://hydrotops.net/products/bioponic-enhancers/triple-f.php this one works out to over £200 per liter and claims up to 50% yield increase

this one is closer to £300 per kg
http://www.grotek.net/en/products/product.aspx?id=11

bud enhancers LOL

they also make a flushing solution

HYDROTOPS BIOPONIC FLUSH 1LTR.
towards the end of the flowering/fruiting phase nutrient intake slows down, yet there are considerable nutrient reserves left in the plant sap. if these levels are are not reduced before the crop is harvested the resulting crop will have a bitter metallic taste.by using bioponic flush to supply the correct ratios of enzymes,organic plant hormones and catalysts,you enable your plant to remove much of the excess nutrient stored prior to harvest

wankers making money off other wankers, hahahaha

Guess stuff like this is what sucks about growing indoors... These are clones that went straight out to flower in January (Southern Hemisphere) at about 30 cm tall. No mess no fuss just a stake or two. Damn I miss it BAD.

Damn, I love this thread!

legallyflying said:

Hey Kite, are you running bare bulbs or open hoods? I know that you achieve awesome co2 concentration duration as your room is mega sealed. I moved som stuff around and installed a 3.5 ton mini split in my flower room. Somewhere I am getting negative pressure. The panda film is getting sucked off the walls! All the ducting is taped sealed, expanding foam on manifolds, and soft rubber sealing where the light cords pass trough the wall.

It HAS to be the lights. I'm running 14 block busters cooled by two 8" inlines (7 hoods for each fan, two rows). Thinking about putting some painters tape around the glass and bottom of the hoods but will wait till I switch to HPS in a week (I just flipped). My co2 generator is almost constanty running.

Any hood sealing tricks that anyone has?

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I used to tape up my hood had bad air leak with glass in.....Worked well just left a messy tape marks I had to scrub off I switched over from a recommendation of a friend. Went to hardware store and bought the rubber door sealer tape (self stick) stuff that you use to line the inside of your door frame so no air leaks through the cracks. Now glass is snug! Hope that helps....

Wow so if I just start removing leaves during flower ill get Way bigger buds ! That's so cool so I mean I wouldn't change my Cytokinins / axuin ratio of the plant stimulating it to grow more leaves and would not slow down my elongation of flower cells which are capable of expanding 700 times the original size and would in no way cause a greater increase in cell division wow amazing why don't they post this stuff in botany books im mean just wow I should burn all my books right now !

Impman said:

You can buy a 45 day flower nutrient system from budtrader right now!!! Guaranteed to flower your plants in 45 days!!!!

A GENERAL HYDROPONICS based hydroponics formula with a DAY to DAY feeding schedule for the entire life of the plant? This 45 day formula comes with a 90 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE. No questions asked! This formula will make your kush strains fully develop its genetic potential. *Increase weight* *Increase resin* *Increase fragrance* *Increase flavor* Accelerated Hydroponics Formula! Go to www.VeniceKush.com.com for more information and buy it today!?.

Call these dudes up I promise you they will tell you how to defoliate the best possible way. While your at it get a PH pen, a Co2 magic bag, and some liquid light. I bet they stalk their shelves with soda water to Co2 your root system too... only its not called soda water... its called Liquid Alien Root Blaster

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"Liquid Alien Root Blaster"? Man, I gotta git me some of dat shit!

"Liquid Alien Root Blaster" just came out with a new product that has electrolytes its what plants crave ..