Do you believe in ghosts?

clayman187

clayman187

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well granny its really hard to read anyone unless they are with me in person. Sometimes when I have trouble reading someone a simply touch on the shoulder anyways makes things much clearer. but tell me if Im wrong..you have a couple kids,( your oldest is a girl and there is a bit maybe 6/8 yr gap between them? (maybe grand kids) did or are you raising 1 at the momment? I could be totally wrong cause I have not ever tried to read anyone on the web
As for the article in the paper from my 1st exp. I wouldnt know..I was 16 a hugh pot/lsd/shrooms head at the time. so the paper and new was the last thing on my mind.
 
ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

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Padawanbater2 said:
Maybe there is, but if there's no tangible evidence to support it, why believe in it? Do you entertain the idea of Bigfoot in the same light?
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For someone who obviously fancies themself a very logical person, many of your arguements lack logical thinking. So, according to you, if someone believes in ghosts (because of somehting they have experienced), you think they also believe in Bigfoot, The Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, Aliens, The Boogeyman, etc?
 
ClaytonBigsby

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Padawanbater2 said:
There are different kinds of energy, kinetic energy, potential energy, thermal energy, chemical energy (metabolism), electrical energy, electrochemical energy, electromagnetic energy, sound energy, nuclear energy... What kind of energy are you talking about? Without context, it's meaningless. What kind of energy would a ghost be and what evidence is there to support that?

There is no tangible evidence to support the idea of ghosts. Evidence is evidence regardless of personal beliefs, that's what makes it evidence. You can't choose to not believe something is real if there is sufficient evidence of it without being intellectually dishonest.

Pictures and testimony aren't enough evidence in science to accurately conclude anything, and there are scientific hypotheses of all kinds of things, Scientology for example, simply having a hypothesis isn't evidence for anything until you take it farther and gather evidence and make observations that are consistent with reality that can be measured.

I believe in intelligent alien life, but I don't have any evidence to support that belief, so as of now, that's all it remains. It would be a mistake to claim for sure intelligent alien life exists, no matter how strong the odds are.
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You believe in aliens? With no proof?
 
Padawanbater2

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clayman187 said:
well granny its really hard to read anyone unless they are with me in person. Sometimes when I have trouble reading someone a simply touch on the shoulder anyways makes things much clearer. but tell me if Im wrong..you have a couple kids,( your oldest is a girl and there is a bit maybe 6/8 yr gap between them? (maybe grand kids) did or are you raising 1 at the momment? I could be totally wrong cause I have not ever tried to read anyone on the web
As for the article in the paper from my 1st exp. I wouldnt know..I was 16 a hugh pot/lsd/shrooms head at the time. so the paper and new was the last thing on my mind.
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What year did this happen, and what place? PM me a name, the body discovered, your name, something to go off of from there

ClaytonBigsby said:
For someone who obviously fancies themself a very logical person, many of your arguements lack logical thinking. So, according to you, if someone believes in ghosts (because of somehting they have experienced), you think they also believe in Bigfoot, The Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, Aliens, The Boogeyman, etc?
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No, I said that there is just as much evidence for ghosts as there is for Bigfoot, yet substantially more people believe in ghosts and most people would probably be embarrassed to admit they believe in Bigfoot. So, what's the difference?

ClaytonBigsby said:
You believe in aliens? With no proof?
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I believe in aliens because mathematically, the odds are in favor of that theory, in other words, there is logical evidence to support the idea aliens exist
 
ClaytonBigsby

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Padawanbater2 said:
What year did this happen, and what place? PM me a name, the body discovered, your name, something to go off of from there



No, I said that there is just as much evidence for ghosts as there is for Bigfoot, yet substantially more people believe in ghosts and most people would probably be embarrassed to admit they believe in Bigfoot. So, what's the difference?



I believe in aliens because mathematically, the odds are in favor of that theory, in other words, there is logical evidence to support the idea aliens exist
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What is it about you, that you think everybody needs to "prove" everything to you?

I have told you and your circle jerk of cohorts to try shit out for yourself. EVP is actually very easy. Quit demanding that others "prove" shit to you, and call bullshit until they do. When are you going to actually try something for yourself? Are you a scientist? A philosopher?
 
clayman187

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Man sorry I aint giving anyone my name..you can believe me or not is no sweat of my balls lol not trying to be disrespectful but I dont need to prove myself to anyone. I know what Ive been thru and that this so called gift is real.
 
Padawanbater2

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ClaytonBigsby said:
What is it about you, that you think everybody needs to "prove" everything to you?

I have told you and your circle jerk of cohorts to try shit out for yourself. EVP is actually very easy. Quite demanding that others "prove" shit to you, and call bullshit until they do. When are you going to actually try something for yourself? Are you a scientist? A philosopher?
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Nobody has to prove anything to me, but if they want to post on a public forum, I'd expect them to at least be honest with themselves.

I've never demanded anything from anyone on this forum, what are you going on about? Asking question is too much for you?

clayman187 said:
Man sorry I aint giving anyone my name..you can believe me or not is no sweat of my balls lol not trying to be disrespectful but I dont need to prove myself to anyone. I know what Ive been thru and that this so called gift is real.
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Lets see if you can read me, tell me one thing you couldn't find out about me from this website or going through my post history, anything
 
Hepheastus420

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What are ghosts made out of?

And who invented spirits? Did some random guy just come up with the theory? I'm pretty sure nobody has seen their spirit, so how are they so sure they have one?

I'd rather stick to what I know is true. I'm not gonna answer my questions until I know I have the true answer. Why did that cup just fall down? I don't know.. Not gonna just say GHOST.
 
SnakeByte

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Padawanbater2 said:
There are different kinds of energy, kinetic energy, potential energy, thermal energy, chemical energy (metabolism), electrical energy, electrochemical energy, electromagnetic energy, sound energy, nuclear energy...
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Most likely electrical, electromagnetic, or wave that can superimpose certain information into or along side certain atoms.

Atoms are one of the most powerful objects in the universe. We don't know all of their secrets quite yet.
 
clayman187

clayman187

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Pada, bro you got to relax...there is always going to be things in life that cant be explained. sometimes to much logic is not a good thing j/s As for a reading...thru the web...I dont really think it can be done...sometimes I get a vision but hell it could be from someone walking their dog down the street.
I come on here trying to learn to gro better bud and this topic came up..I didnt start it but was just trying to give the guy a little advice on how to deal with it.
I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe....

As I said I dont have to prove myself.
 
Stillbuzzin

Stillbuzzin

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clayman187 said:
Man sorry I aint giving anyone my name..you can believe me or not is no sweat of my balls lol not trying to be disrespectful but I dont need to prove myself to anyone. I know what Ive been thru and that this so called gift is real.
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Man I dont blame you one bit. Any name could give popo all the info in the world about you. Pay no attention to these people wanting your info
 
Padawanbater2

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clayman187 said:
Pada, bro you got to relax...there is always going to be things in life that cant be explained. sometimes to much logic is not a good thing j/s As for a reading...thru the web...I dont really think it can be done...sometimes I get a vision but hell it could be from someone walking their dog down the street.
I come on here trying to learn to gro better bud and this topic came up..I didnt start it but was just trying to give the guy a little advice on how to deal with it.
I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe....

As I said I dont have to prove myself.
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You're spreading misinformation and consequently keeping people ignorant of reality. Claiming ghosts exist is one thing, but the same mechanism that allows you to believe in ghosts also leads to real world problems, which is why approaching questions like ghosts, Bigfoot, Heaven/Hell, angels/demons, etc. with logic and reason is so important.

A good example is John Edwards, if you're unfamiliar with him, he's a guy who was internationally famous for claiming he could communicate with people who had passed away, not only that, he would trick people into believing it, get paid millions of dollars for it, all the while telling hundreds of families nothing but lies. If you can look at that situation and tell me what he was doing wasn't harmful, carry on, but I don't think anyone honestly can.

He's a scumbag who took advantage of grieving people in their most defenseless state of mind.
 
PeyoteReligion

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Flying Spaghetti Monster on the loose! Lol I can't explain it=ghosts. Come on for real guys? Don't jump Pads balls because he's injecting some logical thought into the conversation. He's just been asking questions that you all can't seem to answer.

You ghosties crack me up. Yes I want facts and proof, even of Pad doesn't.
 
kinetic

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Pada, so you think Edgar Cayce was a fraud as well? What about people who have died and come back with a story. You may want to look into Dr. Eben Alexander, the guy sounds like the real deal with his experience in neuroscience and his experience having an experience with no brain activity. Check it out.

I really don't think everything that happens in life can be explained with logic btw.
 
Hepheastus420

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Pad simply doesn't agree with some people's views with good reason. He's not being rude about it.

Also, where would we be if we didn't ask questions? Keep asking pad :)
 
PeyoteReligion

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kinetic said:
Pada, so you think Edgar Cayce was a fraud as well? What about people who have died and come back with a story. You may want to look into Dr. Eben Alexander, the guy sounds like the real deal with his experience in neuroscience and his experience having an experience with no brain activity. Check it out.

I really don't think everything that happens in life can be explained with logic btw.
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Your brain pumps you full of drugs when you are near death. Ever hear of DMT? Those experiences are easily chalked up as hallucinations. That brain doctor should have known that though...
 
kinetic

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PeyoteReligion said:
Your brain pumps you full of drugs when you are near death. Ever hear of DMT? Those experiences are easily chalked up as hallucinations. That brain doctor should have known that though...
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His experience wasn't one of a brief stint though look it up.
 
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