does anyone else think guns should be banned?

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

steve1978 said:

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

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Maybe its because everyone in Ireland is too drunk to shoot straight.

Population of US as of June 2008:304,059,724
Population of ireland as of june 2008:4,156,119

We are bound to get in some shit over here, we should ban beer in ireland to save lives, how do you like that idea.

steve1978 said:

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

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steve1978 said:

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

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Because there are always idiots who ruin it for everyone.

There are always going to be idiots that do stupid things.
Like it has been said, if the good guys don't have guns,

then only the bad guys will.

Everyone can't always be in the right place and the right time.
Things happen sometimes that we have no control over.

But I'm pretty sure some people wouldn't be butt-raped
if they had a gun.

Would you really try bum-fucking someone wearing a gun
on their hip?

Would you try shooting someone who is just as capable as hurting
you as you are them when you see that gun?

I wouldn't try it...but thats just me.

Gee, up until recently the people in your country were blowing each other up. The IRA, ya know.

"Hey patrick, less go bomb a church and then stop off at the pub for a pint o' Guiness." Ok, Sean sounds good!"

Damned Irish are as crazy as those muslim terrorists.

steve1978 said:

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

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Uhmm, the reason I got shot was because I was dealing large quantities of drugs to very dangerous people for big chunks of cash. I was going into neiborhoods that would scare everybody in Ireland chitless. If I had stayed out of those kinds of places and not done those kinds of things with Gangbanging murderers i'd have been fine. Hell if i'd remembered to bring my gun that night I'd have been fine. society is pretty safe here if you stay out of the ghetto. It was MY fault i almost got killed not a lack of gun control.

The Warlord said:

Gee, up until recently the people in your country were blowing each other up. The IRA, ya know.

"Hey patrick, less go bomb a church and then stop off at the pub for a pint o' Guiness." Ok, Sean sounds good!"

Damned Irish are as crazy as those muslim terrorists.

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No shit right there, I saw the Crying Game.

There are about as many people in the city of Chicago as in all of Ireland.

There are MORE people in the New York City than in the entire country of Ireland. There are more people in Los Angeles than in the entire country of Ireland.

Those three cities COMBINED are not equal to even 10% of our total population.

I'll lay off the Irish alcoholic potato farmers and not make blanket statements about baby bombing IRA members...if you stop worrying about MY constitutional rights as an American.

oh dear just as i thought. if i make a valid point you would all ignore it. im not shocked. just out of intrest who funded the ira? do your history my friend. the better the point the more aggresive you all become in your tone of text. lol. be honest have i not got a point?

• U.S.A. 14.24
• Brazil 12.95
• Mexico 12.69
• Estonia 12.26
• Argentina 8.93
• Northern Ireland 6.63
• Finland 6.46
• Switzerland 5.31
• France 5.15
• Canada 4.31
• Norway 3.82
• Austria 3.70
• Portugal 3.20
• Israel 2.91
• Belgium 2.90
• Australia 2.65
• Slovenia 2.60
• Italy 2.44
• New Zealand 2.38
• Denmark 2.09
• Sweden 1.92
• Kuwait 1.84
• Greece 1.29
• Germany 1.24
• Hungary 1.11
• Ireland 0.97
• Spain 0.78
• Netherlands 0.70
• Scotland 0.54
• England and Wales 0.41
• Taiwan 0.37
• Singapore 0.21
• Mauritius 0.19
• Hong Kong 0.14
• South Korea 0.12
• Japan 0.05
• this is a print of gun deaths per 100 thousand in the world. explain. or discuss. just dont lie and tell me guns make for a safer society.

retards should be banning from reproducing.... guns dont kill people, people kill people

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steve1978 said:

oh dear just as i thought. if i make a valid point you would all ignore it. im not shocked. just out of intrest who funded the ira? do your history my friend. the better the point the more aggresive you all become in your tone of text. lol. be honest have i not got a point?

• U.S.A. 14.24
• Brazil 12.95
• Mexico 12.69
• Estonia 12.26
• Argentina 8.93
• Northern Ireland 6.63
• Finland 6.46
• Switzerland 5.31
• France 5.15
• Canada 4.31
• Norway 3.82
• Austria 3.70
• Portugal 3.20
• Israel 2.91
• Belgium 2.90
• Australia 2.65
• Slovenia 2.60
• Italy 2.44
• New Zealand 2.38
• Denmark 2.09
• Sweden 1.92
• Kuwait 1.84
• Greece 1.29
• Germany 1.24
• Hungary 1.11
• Ireland 0.97
• Spain 0.78
• Netherlands 0.70
• Scotland 0.54
• England and Wales 0.41
• Taiwan 0.37
• Singapore 0.21
• Mauritius 0.19
• Hong Kong 0.14
• South Korea 0.12
• Japan 0.05
• this is a print of gun deaths per 100 thousand in the world. explain. or discuss. just dont lie and tell me guns make for a safer society.

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I noticed columbia is mysteriously missing....... It's like 24 for every 100K there.

Get your shit straight, and quit trying to alter the facts to your liking.

steve1978 said:

oh dear just as i thought. if i make a valid point you would all ignore it. im not shocked. just out of intrest who funded the ira? do your history my friend. the better the point the more aggresive you all become in your tone of text. lol. be honest have i not got a point?

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You are a Englishman living in Ireland. You have no points about the constitutional rights of Americans. We had a war to determine that. You lost. France awarded us a giant feck off England statue to celebrate our victory.

This chart goes to show that a gun ban does not work, I lived in Mexico for 5 years, I can buy a gun and shoot a gun, and I did. And you know what, GUNS ARE BANNED IN MEXICO!!!!

steve1978 said:

oh dear just as i thought. if i make a valid point you would all ignore it. im not shocked. just out of intrest who funded the ira? do your history my friend. the better the point the more aggresive you all become in your tone of text. lol. be honest have i not got a point?

• U.S.A. 14.24
• Brazil 12.95
• Mexico 12.69
• Estonia 12.26
• Argentina 8.93
• Northern Ireland 6.63
• Finland 6.46
• Switzerland 5.31
• France 5.15
• Canada 4.31
• Norway 3.82
• Austria 3.70
• Portugal 3.20
• Israel 2.91
• Belgium 2.90
• Australia 2.65
• Slovenia 2.60
• Italy 2.44
• New Zealand 2.38
• Denmark 2.09
• Sweden 1.92
• Kuwait 1.84
• Greece 1.29
• Germany 1.24
• Hungary 1.11
• Ireland 0.97
• Spain 0.78
• Netherlands 0.70
• Scotland 0.54
• England and Wales 0.41
• Taiwan 0.37
• Singapore 0.21
• Mauritius 0.19
• Hong Kong 0.14
• South Korea 0.12
• Japan 0.05
• this is a print of gun deaths per 100 thousand in the world. explain. or discuss. just dont lie and tell me guns make for a safer society.

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I just went and did my own research, america is #24 on the list.

# 1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
# 2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
# 3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
# 4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
# 5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
# 6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
# 7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
# 8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
# 9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
# 10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
# 11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
# 12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
# 13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
# 14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
# 15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
# 16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
# 17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
# 18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
# 19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
# 20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
# 21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
# 22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
# 23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
# 24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
# 25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
# 26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
# 27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
# 28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
# 29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
# 30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
# 31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
# 32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
# 33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
# 34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
# 35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
# 36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
# 37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
# 38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
# 39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
# 40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
# 41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
# 42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
# 43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
# 44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
# 45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
# 46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
# 47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
# 48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
# 49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
# 50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
# 51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
# 52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
# 53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
# 54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
# 55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
# 56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
# 57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
# 58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
# 59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
# 60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
# 61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
# 62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 people

lol and japan will cut your penis off for having one, thats .05 females

strangerdude562 said:

This chart goes to show that a gun ban does not work, I lived in Mexico for 5 years, I can buy a gun and shoot a gun, and I did. And you know what, GUNS ARE BANNED IN MEXICO!!!!

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Wait, you mean to tell me that guns are illegal in mexico, and there are 3 times as many murders per capita then the USA?

I think we may be on to something.

tip top toker said:

haha, isn't it just but alas, we don't have an alternative to labour, they're all a bunch of tossers and i'll not give any of em my vote!

at the end of the day, so long as i have my bag of smoke, i couldn't care who is in charge, who is doing what, jsut so long as i can keep to myself but you are correct in that it's kind of just bending over and accepting what you get, but hey, i'd rather a good rape than have any of the available options in charge (on a complete off-topic side note, yet another govt funded study has been carried out, which suggests that drug busts are actuially bad for neighbourhoods, due to getting new dealers in to replace the busted, and turf wars ensuing, and to focus on other areas of crime, similar to what i've read here about the US stopping pointless raids, i just wonder how quickly the govt will do the opposit of the advice they're given

oh, and i've said this as well, a car is not designed to fire a bullet to penetrate flesh. that's just an accident. shit happens in that respect. a gun is being pointed at someone for a VERY specific reason, whether to scare or hurt, it's all about intimidation. that comes up from every gun owner, and i dont' see how y'all can't see how stupid the statement is. a gun may be a "tool" as you all try and argue, but at the end of the day it has a very specific use, which does not come upder commuting, cooking, the likes, well maybe cooking, but cooking some guys ass with lead!

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I don't argue your car vs gun argument at all. People who try to use that as an argument cant find a better one. that is why God made TANKS!

AS long as you are happy at the end of the day is what matters most. Just, for the love of God, at least keep one eye peeled.

Louis541 said:

Wait, you mean to tell me that guns are illegal in mexico, and there are 3 times as many murders per capita then the USA?

I think we may be on to something.

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damn skippy son. I even found a full auto micro uzi near a railroad, a week before some cartels caught word of a possible raid so they hid the guns all over town. I still have the gun at my grandma's house. I also purchased a full auto AK and a sawed off shotgun, $550 us currency.

steve1978 said:

okay guys now i know your all not going to admit it but you have just proved my point. now normally when i make a good point everyone pretends not to hear i just want some honesty. the main point i've heard in defence of everyone owning a gun (or having the right too) is that society is a safer place. intresting. when i asked if anyone had been shot or knew anyone who had it was for a reason. im 30 years old and spent 2 years in the military yet i've never seen or known of anyone being shot. or stabbed. or killed. yet in america where you guys claim guns make you feel "safe" you all now someone or have been shot/murdered/bum raped. now if guns are making society safe how come your all dropping like flys? now lets be honest. give people beer and they drink. give them cigs and they smoke. what do you get if you give people guns? if you feel safe with guns how come you all know people who have been shot. and i dont. just look and be honest.

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I know alot more people who have been stabbed,beat with a bat and just generally fucked up with stuff other than a gun.And you most likely a desk solider,going to alot of death and shootings there.

right im done. as far as stats go i didnt manipulate those i did exactle what you did. i put in google gun death stats and that was the first one. in regards to someone mentioning the ira who do you think funded them? exactly. in regards to dead babies do you really want to start the "whos killed more babys argument?" now ive been very respectfull but it seems when i make a good point you dont think about it you just get angry. thats the differnce you see . i've never insulted anyone. i dont need to. if you cant talk like adults you shouldn't be on a website made for adults. and you shouldn't own guns. if when someone disagrees with you in a respectfull manner you cant control yourselfs what chance have you got with a loaded weapon in your hands. i am willing to cange my mind but it seems the only people who have made good points in this discusion on your side have gone. i think they were aware they were being let down by people who dont have the intellect to discuss things without getting personal. i can watch and change. can you?